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Old Wed, Dec-02-09, 22:25
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Hey guys. I'm new here. I'm a 30 year old male and I haven't been diagnosed with candida yet but feel that I may have it due to the symptoms that I am suffering from; stomach problems; stool not fully binding; impotence; headaches; fatigue; trouble sleeping; face redness; anxiety; depression; anxiety; pins and needles; constant hunger; etc. I have been suffering with these symptoms for years and have been to so many 'ologists it's ridiculous. Every doctor I see refers me to a different doctor. It's been so frustrating.


I've never heard of candida until recently, while doing research on my stomach troubles. I just made an appointment with my doctor to get, what I suppose, will be blood work. However, with all the research I have been doing I've become a little concerned. I've read that a lot of doctors don't take candida seriously. Is this true? I don't want to get there only to be told that it's all in my head. Also, if he does cooperate, what can I expect as far as tests go? Blood work? Urine samples? Any advice on questions I should ask? Thanks for reading and for any info you guys can provide.
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Old Thu, Dec-03-09, 04:59
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There is an old book you may still be able to get a hold of called "The Yeast Connection". You may want to pick it up if you can find it and give the diet a shot. What do you have to lose?
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Old Thu, Dec-03-09, 06:04
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You should check out this thread, too:

http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=404427

This guy might be able to help you. Just reply to his thread - or post the above post as a reply to his thread. He seems very keen to help other candida victims.

amanda
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Old Thu, Dec-03-09, 09:00
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You should check out this thread, too:

http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=404427

This guy might be able to help you. Just reply to his thread - or post the above post as a reply to his thread. He seems very keen to help other candida victims.

amanda


Hey, thanks for the vote of confidence Amanda.

If you have any questions Tom, feel free to ask. I'd be more than happy to share what knowledge I have.

Cheers
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Old Fri, Dec-04-09, 05:48
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Hi Tom,

In answer to your question, the problem with doctors, at least the ones I've run across, and candida tends to be that they know candida exists in the body and that localized overgrowths can cause fungal infections. They also know that in certain very very ill people with seriously lowered immunity such as AIDS patients and cancer patients, candida can overrun the immune system and become systemic.

The problem is, there is a group of us in between these stages who don't have a local yeast infection, and who also are not terminally ill. That type has an intermediate type of yeast infection which may be systemic but, due to our immune systems functioning fairly well, doesn't overrun our immune system enough to make us candidates for hospital treatment.

In my experience, my General Practitioner took the idea fairly seriously because he said that surgical photos he had seen from surgeons showed that candida CAN exist on internal organs and so he was willing to take it seriously but then said he thought there was a blood test for it but he knew nothing about it himself. He wasn't really sure how to proceed and he was going to suggest treatment with conventional antifungal drugs, although he was not sure how to treat it really as he had not come across it before himself.

Another specialist I was being treated by at one point flatly refused to believe that candida could be at the root of my problems at all. I presented him with books and information on it and he was very unhelpful and said it only existed in people who were terminally ill and that was that. At that point I switched doctors.

What type of doctor are you going to see on Monday? Is it your general practitioner (US = "Primary physician"?) or a specialist? Conventional or alternative?

For me, the real questions to think about when choosing a candida doctor might be:

1) "Have they had experience treating candidiasis before?"
2) What sort of treatment are they proposing? Short course of antifungals? Antifungal drugs only or herbal antifungals as well?
3) Are they aware of the importance of following the candida diet during treatment? (My GP didn't seem to know about the diet and was proposing conventional antifungals as though they were a type of antibiotic that would fix the whole thing quickly).

4) What suggestions does he have as regards the possibility of longer term therapy/ drug or herb resistance? In other words, candida can become drug (or herbal antifungal) resistant over time, and so a rotation therapy is often suggested with several drugs or herbal antifungals to prevent this situation. If your doctor does not suggest this, you might want to bring it up for discussion with him.

5) As regards specific blood tests, there are few that are conclusive for proving candida, hence the skepticism on the part of the medical community. You could have a candida antibody test, which will only prove whether you have had an infection in the past and whether your body ever made antibodies against it. You can have a skin prick test to see if you are allergic to yeast. Some specialists might do a fairly new microorganism blood count test which I read about and which counts the number of microorganisms and fungi etc in your blood to see if it is within a very rough "normal range" but this is a very new test and I would be a little surprised if your doctor proposed it.

None of these conclusively proves much, though. Short of getting pics like KT12's done, the tests are usually taken in conjunction with other information, personal health history, and sometimes if all that is inconclusive, the patient is put on the candida diet for a month and improvements and/or die-off effects are noted. If there is improvement and die-off effects with candida diet and treatment, then candidiasis is assumed "after the fact". (I didn't make that up, it was in my book! )

I hope this helps a little. Wait for KT12 and the others here too, though, as he is further along than I am in all this.
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Old Fri, Dec-04-09, 11:05
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Thanks so much for the replies. I really appreciate it. Unfortunately, after reading that, I almost feel like just canceling the appointment.
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Old Sat, Dec-05-09, 03:57
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I wouldn't cancel, since you might be surprised. Some doctors can be very helpful, although often it is by sending you to a specialist or consultant. Most primary physicians won't be experts at treating candida but some will take it seriously and may be able to point you in the right direction for getting it treated.

This is a process, though, and not an overnight quick-fix type thing. I was sort of hoping for a quick-fix type cure initially and thought of it in terms of weeks rather than months, but if the problems have been chronic for a long time (and from your list it looks as though this might be the case with you too) then it would be good to think of treatment in a longer term too and as encompassing many aspects of your lifestyle.

Choosing a candida specialist with a successful history of treating candida patients is a good first step, but to do this you may have to see a few docs first to find out who in your area treats this, how it is treated and viewed and which type of practitioner will best meet your needs.

In KT12's case, it was dealt with conventionally after it was discovered by an endoscopy. In my case, no one did an endoscopy but yeast allergen tests and other blood tests plus symptomatic treatment suggests that I have it too, but very likely in different tissues (e.g. my skin had lots of white spots appear after I started taking the anti-candida medicine and they are fading a bit now but very slowly).

I think you should go to the appointment, hear the doctor out, see what his or her reaction is and what tests he might suggest, and then take a decision about treatment from that. if you are content to begin the process with him and he is open-minded or happy to refer you to a specialist, then of course there is never any harm in hearing what he has to say. If that doesn't work, then you can ask around (I asked friends, the author of the Candida book, etc whether they had heard of this, knew anyone who had it, where they got treated etc) and find out where the best treatment is in your area.

In my case, I have to travel because my specialist is in London, so my own area didn't really have anyone sufficiently experienced that I had heard of who dealt with it. This may not be the case for you, though, depending on where you live.

Hang in there, and gather as much information as you can also from some of the books people have mentioned, since in many of them there are lists of support or information groups at the back.

Hope this helps a bit. I know it seems daunting at first but it is really a process you are beginning and this doctor might be the first step in that process for you.

Annajen
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Old Sat, Dec-05-09, 07:27
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Hey Everyone,

Wow, first I want to say what amazing posts Annajen. You have really done your homework regarding Candida Infection and it clearly shows! Thank you for the vote of confidence regarding my knowledge with Candida. After I was diagnosed with a Candida Infection in my esophagus, I did as much research on the internet and through books as I could about it. Not just any old websites though, I tried to look through research journals, medical magazines, medical organizations, and so forth. I feel like I could open my own Candida clinic now! LOL, too bad I didn't go to medical school.

Tom, Annajen is right. Don't give up. It is true there are many doctors who are inexperienced, ignorant, or just plain stubborn in regards to the possibility of Candida infections. But, there are those doctors who do know a little bit about it, and are willing to help you. You just have to keep trying until you find one of those helpful doctors.

Just be honest and direct with your doctor. Tell them what you expect from the appointment, and what you want to discuss. If they are not willing to listen to your concerns, then clearly they shouldn't be the doctor treating you anyway. You probably will have to see a specialist. I saw a gastroenterologist. Try and get your primary care physician to refer you if you can.

I could write so much about Candida that it could fill many pages on this forum. If you would like to ask me any specific questions, I would be more than happy to share whatever knowledge I have on the subject of Candida. Just let me know.

Good luck Tom. Keep us updated with your results!
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Old Sat, Dec-05-09, 14:36
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Thanks KT12 . . . I mean, it's nice that someone noticed that I'm trying to REALLY REALLY HARD to fix this!!!

My own family is mixed in terms of support and half of them (mainly in-laws and my parents) think most of this in my case is psychological, they never heard of it, don't believe in it etc, and so it's nice to have some support from other people who had this too. I'm really grateful for your encouragement!!! If you ever want to open that candida clinic . . . count me in!

Meanwhile, Tom, if you can PM me (I can't seem to work the PM system yet here for some reason---I keep getting a note saying I can't access the page or don't have sufficient priveleges or something), I will be more than happy to send on a few "starter" recipes for salads and things I found really nutritious and tasty to get you started, although I'm sure there are also some great ones in the recipe section of this forum.

As KT12 said, we're here to help each other and so hang in there and let us know how it is going and if you have any questions on treatment options I'm sure lots of people here will be happy to share their stories if you would find it helpful.

All the best,

Annajen (Anne)
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Old Sun, Dec-20-09, 15:42
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Can living in a damp area contribute to candida overgrowth? I used to live in my parents' basement for years and it was always damp down there. I'm not saying it caused it but can it have helped it grow?
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Old Mon, Dec-21-09, 09:32
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Can living in a damp area contribute to candida overgrowth? I used to live in my parents' basement for years and it was always damp down there. I'm not saying it caused it but can it have helped it grow?


Mmmm, I would say maybe. I mean, mold and fungus can grow very easily in damp and moist places, and basements are both of these! Not really sure though since i'm neither a scientist nor a doctor. Time to do some searching on google...
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Old Mon, Dec-21-09, 17:32
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I made an appointment with my gastroenterologist to schedule both an endoscopy and colonoscopy. Unfortunately, I have to wait until next month for the appointment and then probably a couple of weeks after that for the procedures. Now, if they don't find any candida is it safe to say I definitely don't have candida overgrowth?
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Old Mon, Dec-21-09, 20:46
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If they don't find Candida in your mouth, sinuses, esophagus, small intestines or lower intestines, then yes...it's safe to say you do not have a Candida overgrowth.
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Old Mon, Dec-21-09, 21:25
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I know I'll definitely have my esophagus and colon checked but I just hope my gastroenterologist is understanding enough to check as much of my body as possible. All the other doctors I've been to recently seem to believe that candida overgrowth is a myth.
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