Fri, May-25-07, 17:38
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Plan: Paleo/IF
Stats: 165/148/120
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Progress: 38%
Location: Germany
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Originally Posted by ysabella
The excitotoxinsa are amino acids in both of those cases….. Tomatoes, seaweed, mushrooms, human milk, and of course meat will deliver glutamate into the bloodstream. Cabbage, fish, spirulina, and egg whites deliver aspartate. There is no chemical difference.
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I see what you meant now. But for god’s sake, Ysabella, how can you compare naturally-gifted good with artificial chemo-shit??? It’s like throwing a few berries into arsenic for sweetness and calling it healthy.
First, bonded glutamate and aspartate, found naturally in foods are used by the brain only in very, very small concentrations - no more than 8 to 12ug. Whereas artificial glutamate, aspartate concentration rise above this level so that the neurons begin to fire abnormally. At higher concentrations, the cells undergo a specialized process of cell death (yes, Eades is right, the brain cells literally become excited to death).
Second, natural bonded GLU, ASP are less dangerous because they are broken down and absorbed by the gut, so that it can be utilized by the tissues, especially muscle, before toxic concentrations can build up.
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Food GLU/ASP comes in the form of proteins, which contain 20 other amino acids, and take time to digest, slowing the release of protein bound GLU/ASP like a "timed-release capsule." This in turn moderates the rise in blood levels of GLU/ASP. Also, when GLU and ASP are received by the liver (first stop after intestinal absorption) along with 20 other aminos, they are used to make various proteins. This also moderates the rise in blood GLU/ASP levels. Yet when the single amino MSG is rapidly absorbed (especially in solution - e.g. soups, sauces and gravies), not requiring digestion, human and animal experiments show rapid rises in GLU, 5 to 20 times normal blood levels (2). ASPTM is a dipeptide - a union of 2 aminos- and there exist special di- and tripeptide intestinal absorption pathways that allow rapid and efficient absorption (21). The dipeptides are then separated into free aminos, and as with free MSG there will be a rapid rise in blood ASP. Thus the characteristics of food-bound GLU/ASP and MSG/ASPTM are completely different.
http://www.antiaging-systems.com/ex...xcitotoxins.htm
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Even if it makes us morphin-addicts?
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Originally Posted by ysabella
Why not? What is actually wrong with something affecting the pleasure centers of the brain?
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*chokes* Are you being serious? Do you really wish our future generation to be neurochemotoxic crowd, easily-manipulated and loaded with bunch of cognitive, behavioral physiological and sexual dysfunctions:? Do you? :O Well, then, alas, nothing more to be said.
Capo, that’s very familiar story. A friend of mine has got rid of tiresome zits by just avoiding dairy and grains. …With weight loss as a side-effect for beach season
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