I agree, Mandalay. Ysabella makes some of the most cogent and educated posts in the public forums....If she agrees with you, you're probably right.

Kay

Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, you're right.

I was talking about later on when he started feeling bad between meals. This is the insulin cycle driving you to consume more and more carbs more often.

I own this movie, and I don't recall him eating to the point of vomiting at every meal. He puked out his car window, but he didn't hurk up every meal he ate! Would've been kinda hard to put the weight on that he did if that was the case.

I thank the universe every day that I can be picky about what I eat. It really is a luxury. Good point.

I definitely used to leave McDonalds and especially Burger King on the brink of barfing. I had to sit in my car for a bit before driving away... Good thing it wasn't a daily or weekly thing.

Someone makes some observations about mice on a "super size-me" diet. For once they finger the sugars!

http://sciencenews.org/articles/20070609/food.asp

That documentary was very interesting, but I feel it promoted the wrong idea.

Sure, fast foods, like McDonalds, are some of the worst things anyone could ever eat, but they missed the big connection -

Fats + Carbs = weight

The way fats and carbohydrates work together in the body is the point. If you have carbs and fat, the body will not burn fat. Fat by itself may not be the ultimate health food, but it is dramatically worsened and even dangerous when paired with carbs!

French fries.. starchy carbs soaked in fat, is possibly one of the worst foods in the world.

And have you ever noticed that McD's food, overall, is really very sweet? I LOVE their cheeseburgers and nuggets, why? They really are sweet! Seems that that should be a problem.. lol

Over the last few years, at the rare times when I have had a McLunch, within 30 minutes, I've had to run to the bathroom and had gas and cramps for an entire day afterwards. That just cannot be good for you, regardless of whats in it and what the carb / fat / calories are.

Hi Lexi-lou, that's what I call my lil sister! Dr. Atkins explains how all of this work in the book, now I know reading something won't prove anything to anyone, so the best thing to do is try it out and see what happens. There are lots of us here that have been doing LC for quite a while, much longer than that guy & so far we're all much healthier than when we started.

I saw that show too, and I swear I'll never eat McDonald's again!

I thought contributors to this thread might find this story interesting --
http://economistsview.typepad.com/e...krugman_am.html

Americans are shorter and fatter than they used to be, and economist Paul Krugman blames fast food and a high fat & carb diet.

Yes, it was extreme, but I think a lot of people missed the point, in that fast food wreaks havoc on your health. He didn't puke at every meal, stick to what really happened and go from there. It came down to the simple question of what does eating fast food on a regular basis do to your body. Its supposed to make you a little more aware. Anything like that you have to take with a grain of salt. Personally, after watching it I paid more attention to how I felt after eating fast food and realized the fact that besides I didn't care that much for it anyway, I did feel like shit after eating it. Low-carbing is awsome, but a lot of times it blinds people to anything other than low-carbing. They become so hardcore that if they don't hear the word low-carb in anything having to do with diet, its chucked in the trash can. I try not to be so narrow minded. If you watch something with some useful info, use what you can and discard what you don't agree with or what you feel it lacked. Otherwise your no better than the vegan and their narrow views on nutrition.

I think she's getting knocked because she is a vegan. If somebody on Atkins looked like that, everybody would be saying "Didja notice how slim the Atkins chick was?" I also agree that the weight "bar" has been raised systematically over the years so that someone who is very slim can now appear unhealthy looking. My feeling about the vegan girilfriend is ... more power to her. If she can keep her weight down and keep up a vegan diet with healthy chemistry panels and everything, then good for her.



I haven't been in a fast food restaurant since I was a teenager. You couldn't pay me enough to eat that stuff. I think it's all bad - the meat, the carbs, whatever. The corporations that run these places have pretty questionable practices as well, so that would be another reason to cut back on eating there.

No doubt to all the above. I was just talking to dh about how I truly believe that some body types can be well suited to a vegan lifestyle, and some people can eat a diet high in complex carbs and be stick thin. It's working for their chemistry. And then there are people like us, whose bodies and blood chemistries respond really well to low carb. I must admit I'm a bit jealous of people who can eat tons of carbs and not gain weight, b/c I loves me my bread and sugar. But I can't, so this is the best way for me. And with regard to fast food in general, every time I eat that stuff I feel like total crap, way worse than if I sat down and ate the same amount of carbs that did not come from fast food. It's all bad. Gross! Definitely makes me want a salad.

Food is food. All Spurlock proved was that grossly overeating (he may not have vomited after every meal, but he did eat to the point of discomfort) is harmful.

http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com...-real-food.html

This will put you off McDonald's

You tube Spurlock experiment

I don't agree that food is food. Even if you don't stuff yourself silly, the amount of sodium and crap in fast food is amazing. Even a low-carb burger from Hardees has 1050mg of sodium in it. If food is food I doubt people would be pushing whole fresh food.

So? Very few people need to worry about their sodium intake.




Well, I wouldn't use what people push as the criteria for whether or not something is worthwhile. People push all kinds of things, from the silly to the outright dangerous.

I'm not saying "whole fresh foods" are not good for you...just that "processed" foods are not the poison we are all taught to believe.