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Old Sun, May-26-19, 07:20
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HEY ALL!!!!!!- Happy Sunday! -
I am SO HAPPY the Challenge is working for us! -

TRIG-- I agree with BLUE - you you are pisst your posts get funnier and funnier. I totally get ya on the wanting sun and then retreat to your woman cave. I am sorta that way too! When I want the sun I want the sun- then when I need out I want cool and darker. I love the colors gray with red accents! I know you are going through revamp hell at your house, but it should look pretty when you are done! I am FINALLY investing a bit into thinking about putting a picture on the wall, and a new table.

So the more you do- it will pay off one of these days! Where did you order furniture? I need a table. Holy moly- I was looking on line last night and 500+ for tables. Oh hello no...... I m going to check out consignment shops. I want a rustic farm table. Where did you shop yesterday? I am thinking of hitting up a sale maybe...... I dunno- so much to think about. I know what I want- but like you refuse to part with the green backs to get it!

YEA on getting the pool up and going- steak on the grill and rum in hand= perfect day to me! POOL ENVY HERE!!!!!!!!!!- enjoy!!!

BLUE- MY FAVORITE time to swim is after everyone is gone from the pool and the sun is slipping in the clouds and I am on my float and nobody is around- just me and the water and the sunset! It's magical.
Ya I know you love your soy spaghetti! Still to many carbs for this gal! But we are on different ends of the spectrum there. I can't tolerate them (extra carbs). But I am glad you can and you still lose! I do love the RAO sauce though. I have been doing zucchini noodles lately! I really don't mind it. True it's not "real" noodles. But I doodle them thick- and honestly it's for the sauce anyway. I add meatballs and I am good!

How is your work life going? You have been SOOOOOOO busy lately. Are you finally catching your breath? Can't wait for you to enjoy your pool. Do you have a new suit for this year?

NIC- so when do you start your training? I too had to get a booster MMR- those suckers HURT! URGH.......
Did you see Aladdin last night? My DD saw it and said it was really good!
CRABBY/ Cranky days- Gosh don't we all have those! I will have to say though, really hear me on this one: Hormones. If a man were to say that to me I would deck him! But I can say that when I was still having my TOM- the closer to 50 I was a crying normal MESS. I am serious. Nobody ever really talks about the mood swings with menopause. But it is TOALLY REAL! - I'm not saying that is where you are at- but you are only a few years younger than me. I was going through it BAD at 47-51. After my hysterectomy- I got on HRT- and I am seriously saying I feel so different. So don't discount the fact you are a woman in that age bracket and you still have TOM. It really did effect me.
You know what odd about that- not often, but every now and again I swear my body feels like it WANTS to have a period. But again it is the hormones still adjusting. My GYN- told me it can take up to 3-5 years post Hyster to finally calm them down.
If I forget to take my estrogen even one night- the night sweats are brutal. That tells me I should still be on them! - Just food for thought!
Anyway- I am glad the hubby took a walk with you. BTW- did you ever take your watch in to get fixed?

LORI- - YEA- look at you being awesome out to dinner! I have to agree with NIC- a peach slushy would taste like chemicals to me too! I just can't do artificial ANYTHING. Soda- forget it. It's the real deal or I don't want it.
I have made a wine spritzer but adding some sparkling water to it and a real strawberry.
But - no give me the real deal! - How long are you at your sisters?
I know you two are having fun!

Jane- I am wondering if you had a change to look up Berne Brown! She is so inspirational!!!!- on so many levels! I have real all her books. I think my favorite is Braving the Wilderness. It's about being brave in the world when inside you want to run. It's about staying firm and being true to who you are and not allowing others to bring ya down. It's about truly loving who you are for who you are- and not giving a crap about who others think you SHOULD BE!
YEA on doing a a fab job this week! It's the little things that add up we can count as a victory! Keep up the awesome work! - One day at a time! That is all any of us can do right?

Greg
- Ya- welcome to the party of ladies! Never mind all the "girly" talk- it just is! - So have you done Adkins in the past? Share when you are comfortable. We don't bite MUCH!!!!!!!- HAHAH
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I just love how ya move a few pieces of funiture and it gives a room an entirely different look. So I LOVE how open it looks now! BLUE- you are right- my table is going to go right on that anchor wall. I am going to check out big canvas! Thanks- I am STILL looking for that one picture of the woman in the red dress! I want that pic! It is mostly black and white, with shades of gray- and then the RED dress. It will pic up my red accent pillows- on my gray couches.

So- I really deep cleaned- like took out the vacuums and everything! Got the from office cleaned up- shredded so much- and it looks great in here- so open and cozy at the same time. Just really inviting- not done!
But this morning my DD called! The baby is throwing up- and most likely has the same stomach bug my DD had last week! My DD - was sick all last week and tossed up her guts for 2 days before she could tolerate water. So they are being very careful with Ava- and not taking her anywhere. I am ok with making it next week! No biggie.
Maybe next week will be a tad cooler and we can grill. I will miss them- but if she is sick- she is cranky anyway and not happy! You just can't predict that- comes with kids.

So now that my house is clean- and chicken salad in the fridge. I had not bought the watermelon yet- thankfully since I don't eat it. So no loss there. I have time to be part of the mass chaos TRIG was talking about in looking for MY table. I am thinking DISTRESSED white farm type table, with a bench on one side and 2 chairs for the other. I saw one on Wayfair for 800. - no thank you.
So I will look until I find it. I can wait. I have the SPOT open and just waiting. I put a card table there for now. I don't want to just buy anything- it has to be the right one! Maybe a flea market?

I am totally digging the challenges! It overall keeps me mindful- in so many ways. How I spend my carbs, time, how I eat, walk, ect....

So I know that everyone is doing their own thing with it. I will put it out there and if you go that route ya do- if you don't you don't!
OUR WAY! But even our challenges are different!
I can't JOY EAT- but those of you that know me- know that. Joy eating for me would be a month in a PIZZA shop and not coming up for air- unless it is a suck down glass of wine before the next round! - nope- no can do for this girl. Not now! Just for today!

Today is the grilled chicken salad wraps with extra mayo- I am good with that. I am doing crab cakes (NOD to NIC) tomorrow with a nice chopped salad. All planned out.
Go some sparking water and fresh limes and rum- ZERO carbs!
SO SO HOT here- no rain in sight - through even next weekend. I am worried about all my flowers dying. Water water water!
I am keeping my thermostat at 70- and I can here the poor new AC unit chugging away. I am actually closing the curtains on the side in the afternoon as the heat and the sun just pour in. Conserve AIR. Funny I am doing that already!

Have a great day all-
Quote of the day:“You learn more from failure than from success.- author unknown
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Old Sun, May-26-19, 07:23
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gotch'a Lori. a one meal treat boy I would not be happy with a 1 meal treat. I wish, omg I wish I was that person! For me if I get back XYZ then I want INSTANTLY back everything else I gave up. I want it all, I want it now! Sad but true.

I wish a lot about how I handle food...…what could be different and what could change to make it all work well..….super cool ya'll can do what works so well for ya. I know the sneaky mental and physical carb intake works so bad against me yet my brain can't work it all out to moderate, make the body not want and more.



thanks for giving me that info tho….ain't a whole day off, you allow one meal. That would so work for so many and if we call it JOY does that mean that every other meal we do eat that is considered 'healthy and correct' a 'misery meal'?

see that, that is how I go.

I see if we label a JOY meal as such, then is every other meal in our week a bad meal? One we don't want, have to wait to deserve a 'joy' meal and not live good until that meal comes?

yes I know, my mind goes there truly. I see my Joy meal as a reward, a great thing, something I allow myself, yet every other time I eat I see it as more depriving myself, not being a great meal, not being what I want vs. what my joy meal would be.


I tell ya I don't think straight on it all LOL

just spouting out here guys...what comes to mind for me.
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Old Sun, May-26-19, 11:07
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I guess the lady that came up with the "Joy Eat" phrase just does not like it when some people call that meal a cheat or being bad. She wants it to be joyful! I don't know.....different strokes for different folks!

I'm staying on plan today. I did my 20 minute bike ride and then Sis and I went to the park and I got in a 60 minute fast walk. My arm is not a bit happy about any of it. I really think the pain is getting worse. So glad I have the Dr. appt scheduled for Tuesday morning. I hope he suggests an MRI, cause that is what I want. My bicep is strong, so I think it is the rotator cuff/deltoid muscle. I'm afraid I'm heading for the surgeon's table. If so, I will have to cancel all plans and training for the half marathon and just focus on recovery. I don't want to be in a sling for the cruise Sis and I are going on June 28 - July 6, so I guess I'll just be in pain till sometime in July if surgery is called for. What a mess I caused for myself when I took that tumble.

Sis and I are just hanging out here this afternoon and our dinner will be leftovers from yesterday. Tomorrow morning we'll get ready and head for the casino around Noon. I have to pack up my stuff as I'll be heading home from there. I hope to be home by 6 or 6:30 tomorrow evening.

Jaz....sorry your kids had to cancel, but no sense dragging a sick baby around. What she needs is to be home and resting.

Talk later!
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Old Sun, May-26-19, 15:32
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I am down with Whirrlly here. Just talkin bout me. My relationship with sugar is closer to an alcoholic's relation with booze. I'd love to be able to have just one, but it sets off a craving for the next that I really can't overcome. So the best defense for me is to skip the first one so I don't have to deal with the tenth one.... Sugars, that is! But a friend of mine who says he is an alcoholic said, cryptically, it's the first drink that gets you drunk. I know what he is getting at. So when I eat that first chocolate eclair, the mighty Casey has struck out!
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Old Sun, May-26-19, 15:41
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oh yea Lori I get why she titled it joy meal. would work for many in just that fashion. I also get why people don't want to call it a cheat meal or bad food etc.

I just fall into that category of weirdo thinkers that I can't handle the labeling and somehow it doesn't work for me while it would be literally a great way for another to make it work for them.

wow, sorry for the arm troubles. it does sound like that tumble was way worse. remember my friend Barb's hubby went down fast and straight into surgery when he landed on his shoulder area....so yea, hate to say it but rotar cuff and all that trouble usually is a surgery situation. Hoping nothing for the best for ya but if you feel everything is not healing and worse is happening, then ya gotta go find out how to fix it best and fast and move forward with it.

sound like you and Sis are having a blast
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Old Sun, May-26-19, 15:45
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yea Greg you are falling into that sugar nightmare life of Jaz and me. The 3 of us can't control sugar fluctuations, blood sugar ups and downs, it just gives us the worst situations.

I wish my body could moderate sugar better but it doesn't. I wish I could moderate but sadly I am not that one.

while that is a good thing cause we all know the body truly doesn't like sugar it is a bad thing cause it does mean we have to truly live differently to make it all work for us.

darned if ya do and darned if ya don't I guess, but great post!! Good to hear another is in the same way as me misery loves company I guess HAHA

but one thing I do have to remember and put in my mind to the forefront is ALL THE PERFECTLY fine foods I can have....and there are a ton of them So not like I am truly being deprived of great eating, I am not....sometimes I just want what I can't have. That is a mind game I have to overcome I guess.
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Old Sun, May-26-19, 15:50
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TRIG- So for ME and YOU- and those of that do not have the luxury of a JOY meal we need to rename it.
For me a JOY meal is when I get through my day on plan which is right for me. I know I CAN'T have treat meal- see prior post! It doesn't work. but then again- not everyone is a carbolic like you and me.
They can call it treat night, joy meal, what every floats the boat. Bottom line it does not effect them them the same way it does us. .... IE Low carb our way!

So our Joy meals are the ones we navigate through the crap and eat - walk the line- that is where I feel good.
Don't get hung up on terminology. We know that some can get a pass and some of us can't. We need to suck it up and find ways that are yummy to us!

Come on now- what is better than a BBQ slow cooked rib???????? -
Anyway- that is where I am at. I am keeping my blinders on and doing what is good for me! that is as low carb as I can get!
Everyone here is so inspiring- you are to me! You and I are kindred in the way we eat! No sweat my gal pal! I have seen you- you are beautiful!!!!!!!- blond bombshell and don't you forget it! flannel and all!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA-

What beach are ya hitting up? I know you are counting down days!

LORI-
- so happy you are having a good time with sis! I SO hope you insist on an MRI about your arm!!!!! I think you should not worry about the what if's until you have solid answers and you don't!!!!!! TRUST ME- I know what it's like to like the mind goes wild.
take one day at a time!

HI to all!!!!!!!- enjoy your day!
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Yes - the kids couldn't come. Now Ava is running fever and not keeping anything down. Typical Stomach flu like DD had! - keep it no thanks- yes please stay home!

So I shared my dinner- with my neighbor and her elderly mother. I made chicken salad - like 2.5 pounds of it- no way to eat that much.
I ate till full then saw I have a huge bowl - maybe 2 pounds left. I wrapped mine in butter lettus- and that is what I had. I know they will make sandwiches with what I gave them. I made it pretty. I put butter lettus in a circle and plopped a good pound in the middle. then I sprinkled parsley, baby tomatoes, and walnuts on the sides for presentation! HEY ya know presentation!
Ma- (her name- the mother) answered the door and was delighted. My friend is gonna roll her eyes yet another meal her way! Thanks what she gets for befriended me! She hums and hawls , but she doesn't cook so I know she loves it. She came over last night and sat on my island and watched me cook.
Then she goes"you REALLY do like doing that don't you?" - Yup- my happy place.

I spent ALL day out looking for a table. Who would have thought a table was SO much trouble!!!!!!- First I am NOT paying $$$$$$$$$$ fora frekin table. HELLO - I will toss a 10 dollar table clothe over the card table and call it a day!
What I want and can afford are two different animals. And to be honest what I want won't fit in this space. I am a small table space- 60 inches long- 35 wide- TOPS- small space. What I found that works is over the 600- FORGET IT!

Saw a print though I fell in LOVE with. It would be my anchor piece! It has.......... wait for it........... SPARKLES!!!!!!!!!! It's gray, whit and black- with sparkles......... I don't know!
BLUE- and why don't you live closer???????

I had my food- dogger at feet- and going to pour my first holiday glass of wine. Time to relax after being in heat and all- I can wait. I MIGHT go back and get that piece- 129.00 right OK for me! - it was abstract........ just colors.........

Great night all-

100% in eating, walking, and water today- even though not challenge day- and it's my JOY day!!!!!! WINK WINK!!!!!!
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End of day check-in:

LC -
Activity -

Sorry I brought up the "Joy Eat" concept. Didn't mean to trigger anyone or cause a ruckus. As I said, different strokes for different folks.

Have a good night everyone!
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Old Sun, May-26-19, 16:52
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Lori- uh-uh, nope, no need to apologize whatsoever. I think the idea here is that "joy meal" can mean whatever we want it to mean. For me, the description in the book works perfectly and I shared it with my husband. For someone else it might mean something completely situationally different. That does not make it in any way invalid. You know how I mentioned "Hike your own hike" when I was talking about the many different ways that people approach hiking the AT? Well, we could say something similar here- an EYOM- Eat your own Meal!

I think the alcohol analogy is also good. Some people just can't mess with it- it brings too many of their demons roaring back; some can have a glass on a holiday only, some can drink socially. Or maybe smoking- some can stop, some can do it socially etc. It's really all on the same continuum of ANYTHING that can be addictive. That doesn't mean that Jaz can't drink her wine, or Trig her Diet Pepsi and Rum, just because maybe someone else can't. Same thing.

So have your joy meal and enjoy your joy meal, guilt free. Talk about it, guilt free. Each of us can do what he or she can do happily and safely for them.
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Old Sun, May-26-19, 17:25
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Jaz - Glad your internet is back up and running. I would miss that far more than I would miss tv, radio or most other things.

Very sorry though to hear your Littles couldn't come after all. Definitely you don't want to get sick though so next week it is! I hope poor little AVA gets well soon. And that is really great news about the feeding tube being removed soon!

I'm glad you found some art that you like for your dining room area. Do you think you are going to go back and get it? VERY nice of you to give chicken salad to your neighbor friend and to make it look all nice too!

Thanks for sharing your experiences regarding mood swings and the like. It was interesting to think and read about. It definitely could be hormone related or just run of the mill, sick of this shizz sort of crabbiness. Who knows? Seems to have passed now, thankfully!

Lori- You've said several times that you hope your Dr mentions an MRI. I really think you need to be assertive and ask for it. Enough is enough and if there is a bigger problem that needs to be addressed then you have the right to act on it and minimize any further pain or injury.

Good job staying on plan and glad you are enjoying your sister!

Jane- in case you do decide to look her up, the author/speaker's name is Brene Brown.

Blue- no offense taken, my dear friend! No one likes to be the only passenger on the Struggle Bus! Glad we are both on a good route for the moment.

Very glad you are feeling better and less bloaty. It is a wonderful thing!

Lori- Touching back quickly on the whole joy eat thing, I am glad you enjoyed your bread and olive oil, and then your otherwise on plan meal. Also, Tony Shrober now has a podcast. Have you heard any of it? I listened to most of an episode today on a walk- it was about the Food Police. Not calling anyone here the Food Police- that was legit what it was called and what it was about!! I thought it was well done and thought provoking. I will look forward to listening to more of his podcasts.

Trig- Interesting comment about the new couch helping with your sciatica. I have to put a pillow behind my lower back when I sit on the basement couch or my lower back feels janky. I also find that I can't lay around in bed- I end up just feeling sore.

How strict is the school on days missed? What do they want a parent to do or say to waive whatever requirements there are?

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Going back to the whole Joy Meal thing AGAIN- as I reading the posts I got to thinking that it really does depend on how someone's mind goes. Like, the Points thing at WW. So many people LOVE that. I wanted to love it. But the fact is that my natural inclination is to "game the system." I became focused on eating AS MUCH AS I COULD for every single point, even if it was processed fake crap, because the points were lower. For me, it wouldn't work because of the way I interacted with it and my nature. For some it is physiology they have to combat, for all of us it is something mental or another... we all just have to fight the beast the best we know how, and the best way that makes each of us successful!

On Tony Shrober's podcast today, he was saying that his 'thing' is cereal. He eats cereal. Someone told him 'You shouldn't eat that. It's really bad for you' in an email. He went on to say that that someone doesn't know the battles he faces. That eating that bowl of cereal, for him, keeps him from going off the deep end and binging on much more and for longer. He said that he eats 90% of the time 'healthy' and he does this to keep it that way. Again, each person's approach and mileage will vary. Some of us have a little of the real thing now and again, some of us try to find an acceptable solution, some of us need to block it out entirely and forever.

I tell ya- the psychology of addiction!
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I have had a really good day today. Yay! No more crankies for me!

For breakfast around 10 I had lc yogurt with 1/3 cup lc granola and 3 pieces of bacon. Then I went for a walk- 1.7 miles. Later on DH and I went to the 50+ center for a little while. I did some weights (they are hydraulic- pretty nice!) and a bit on this machine that was kind of like a recumbent stair climber of sorts. I've never seen anything like it, plus you moved your arms too.

After that, I came home and made myself "Linner" of a chicken salad lettuce wrap. It was yummy! That and two squares of sugar free chocolate- finished for the day at around 3 PM.

Other than that I vacuumed, finished a book, poop scooped and made dinner for DS17. Dh went to see John Wick 3 and DS20 was going to his GF's for dinner.

Just an all around nice day with a good mix of activity plus relaxation.
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Old Sun, May-26-19, 20:14
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OK- I just want to say for the record for the new folks - for all of us! Just because some of you can have a Joy meal, Treat Meal, give a crap what you call it! YEA!
Please do not apologize- this is an open discussion and everyones thoughts are important.

Just because I can't have it doesn't mean I am less happy you can! You can have cheese- I never say don't have cheese! Dam I love the stuff too- and DO eat it- with regrets next morning!
But you get point. When we stop sharing good stuff- then we are less authentic.

Myself and Trig, maybe Greg- can't go there- so what. I am still interested in what everyone shares. Lets not forget this is LOW CARB OUR WAY- period. We have our our way. What works for me is not going to work for anyone else.
That is what makes us special- we exchange ideas, thoughts, and recipes. some don't work for me and I pass. others grab my attention IE crack slaw- got it here..... and I run with it.

This is a SAFE place- for all of us! I have never ever met such a wonderful group of people who are strong. We all have a different path to the same destination! Who cares if we run, walk, crawl, or limp- right?
I do NOT what us to not express what give us joy! We take what we want and let the other go! We are more than just the food! WE are CARB OUR WAY!!!!!!!!!!

So bring it- we are big girls (and Greg) ....... So talk about what works for you. If the Joy meal- works then it works! Enough said- talk!!!!!!!!!!!-

Love you all- I really really need this group. you mean so much! - please don't stop being you!

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NIC- thanks for the record on Brene Brown....... HAHAHAHAHAH- hugs- she ROCKS!!!!!!!!!! by the way- she cusses like a sailor- no wonder I love her!
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Old Sun, May-26-19, 22:07
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Hi, everyone!

Thank you for the info on replying - now I don't feel bad. I'll try that this coming week. Not today because there's just too much good convo going on and it would take too long.

On the Joy Eat - now that I am diabetic and know exactly what carbs do to my body (it's not good), I cannot in good conscience call a carby meal a Joy Eat. I'm also too likely to have one meal become one day, then one week, etc... When I do eat carbs I call it eating off-plan, that way there is no emotional attachment or guilt/reward/good/bad association. I also tend to agree that labeling carby foods Joy foods would, for me, create a feeling of deprivation when I'm not eating them and that would not be helpful for me. I also get that for many people, it's just a fun title to use for a special meal.

But this idea got me thinking about what a true Joy Meal would be for me - one that would bring joy to my taste buds and to my body. I think it would be this:

Juicy grilled steak with sauteed mushrooms and asparagus
Fresh cherries for dessert

A cocktail, like a margarita or such, would elevate it into a celebratory meal. I have not tried to make a low-carb cocktail but that might be a worthy endeavor! Also, I don't think I've ever had lobster, so that might someday be a special meal as well.

What about you guys - What would a truly joyous meal be for you?

On Brene Brown - I just watched her Netflex special and Ted talk a couple of weeks ago and I have mixed feelings about her. She is very likeable and entertaining, but because she is a social worker I took issue with some of her theories. The main issue I have with her theory of vulnerability is that it doesn't address how this might be especially difficult and problematic for victims of abuse, particularly childhood abuse. If you are abused, for years, by the very people who are supposed to protect you and love you most in the world, vulnerability is going to threaten your sense of safety in a major way. And she never talks about that at all. And if she was a social worker, how can you not be aware of, and sensitive to, something as important as that?

In fact, this last week, being vulnerable is exactly what caused me to derail and end up in a very dark place for three whole days and it took me five days to recover from it. I'm going to give it another chance, the vulnerability thing, but if I find that the results are the same, I will need to reduce my vulnerability in order to protect my well-being. Saying, "If you want to be happy you have to be vulnerable!" But not explaining how to do that safely, and also validating that for some people being vulnerable will be extremely difficult, felt irresponsible to me. Maybe her books offer more guidance on this. Based on the recommendation, I did look at them online and Braving the Wilderness looked the most appealing. But I guess I would want to know if she addresses that issue.

Well, peeps - to all a Good Night! Thank you for creating this wonderful space where we can chat and be ourselves.
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Good Morning!

Up at 6AM as sunshine floods my room here at Sis's. Love waking up to sunshine.

We will have a couple hours to just enjoy our coffee etc and then we'll get ready for the noise and flashing lights at the casino! There is also a horse racing track at this casino and you can have a meal and watch them run. I have to check the schedule and see if they're running today. Anyway, that is our plan. Lose a little money and then have a nice meal before saying our good-byes. I'll only have around an hour more to drive to get home.

Nic...I am going to check out the Tony Schober podcast the next time I'm out walking.

I'm ready to go home and see DH. I know he's ready for me to come home too. He said he's going to work a bit this morning. The Rec Authority is putting up a rock climbing wall and he has to drill 200 holes to put in the climbing "pegs" or whatever they call them. Sounds tedious.

Not sure what I'll end up eating today. Maybe I'll see if they have an online menu to peruse.

Remembering those who made the ultimate sacrifice to give us our freedom. Happy Memorial Day!
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Lori, like the others said omgosh you post about everything and anything that is of value to you. You found good info on joy meal and info on how other's can plan their eating menu etc. you post it. Never ever feel you can't post....it seemed 'maybe like an attack' on joy meal situation from me but truly it wasn't. I was just saying why it would never work for me and how I perceive it...that is all I am attacking carbs HAHA when I say no way it would work and my mind doesn't set well with joy or bad or guilt meals or whatever they call it. That is all

We got some that can moderate well on LC plans like you and Blue and Nicco, who can control yourselves with higher carb counts and go back into lower counts more easily then some of us others who are fighting the old insulin game. So just chatting about that.....but never think ya can't say something

and remember guys, if I say something also let me know how ya think and feel. I never mind. I will understand where you are coming from. One thing we give each other here is space to chat about anything, how we feel on it and more and it isn't coming at you personally in any way, it is coming at the information posted and if it doesn't suit us for some reason we might comment on why it won't etc.

Sorry that chat went down that way for ya ALL GOOD I hope!!



got contractor coming soon guys, will chat up personals later.

just to say our steaks on the grill, yum
and our crab legs yesterday were fab. I almost made too many, I had to have hubby eat the last few legs cause I couldn't do it HAHA rare huh, I couldn't eat one more leg LOL

this morning I woke up 'still stuffed'. I ate so well that I just overstuffed myself and still stuffed this morning. No food for a good bit for me today.

back later!
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