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Old Thu, Dec-17-09, 14:09
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Default Trying to apply old WW method to SBD

Hi everyone. It's been a while since I've been around. Fell off the wagon and got out of the habit of checking in to this website daily. So now I'm stuck in a rut physically and emotionally and feeling desparate to get back on board.

Here's my question. When I did Weight Watchers, about 20 years ago before the whole Points thing started, they had these food journals that you had to fill out daily. They listed food categories and how many servings you were to have each day.

For example:
Breads/Carbs - 4 servings
Fruit - 2 servings
Vegetables - 3 servings
Fats - 2 servings
Protein - 3 servings
Water - 8 servings

It really helped me to track what I was doing each day. I would like to apply this same method to the SBD, but I'm a bit confused by the food lists and how much of each thing I'm suppose to be consuming each day.
Can anyone help me to break this down so that I feel like I'm following the SBD correctly?
Thanks in advance.
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Old Thu, Dec-17-09, 14:15
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Progress: 33%
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I am a huge WW failure so their methods never, ever worked for me.

But the SBD Meal Plan Guide was just the right tool for me to finally learn to eat a new way:

Quote:
SBD Meal Plan Chart
How To Adapt Your Meal Plan- Phase I

The South Beach Diet? is designed so that you can easily swap meals and ingredients. If you don't like eggs for breakfast, have low-fat cottage cheese or lean meat instead. Not a fish lover? Then choose lean beef or poultry. In Phase 1 of the diet, you can eat as many proteins and vegetables as you like, plus fats like olive oil. Fruit and starches aren't allowed until Phase 2. Here's a look at some general eating guidelines. For specific food choices, check out the Phase 1 Foods to Enjoy & Avoid list.

BREAKFAST
Protein: Quantity is not limited. Start with a 2 oz. portion, eat slowly, go back for seconds if still hungry.

Vegetables: Minimum 1/2 cup or 6-8 oz. tomato or vegetable juice.

Fruit: None

Starch: None

Milk/Dairy: 2 cups allowed daily (including yogurt)

Fat: 1 tsp mayonnaise, trans-free margarine, or oil (optional)



SNACK
Snacks are required. Choose a protein, vegetable, fat-free plain yogurt, or nuts/seeds. A snack that combines protein (1 oz.) and vegetables is encouraged.

LUNCH
Protein: Quantity is not limited. Start with a 3 oz. portion, eat slowly, go back for seconds if still hungry.

Vegetables: Minimum 2 cups.
We encourage you to include a serving of beans (1/3-1/2 cup) as part of your vegetables.


Fruit: None

Starch: None

Milk/Dairy: 2 cups allowed daily (including yogurt)

Fat: 1 Tbsp mayonnaise, trans-free margarine or oil, or 2 Tbsp salad dressing



SNACK
Snacks are required. Choose a protein, vegetable, fat-free plain yogurt, or nuts/seeds. A snack that combines protein (1 oz.) and vegetables is encouraged.

DINNER
Protein: Quantity is not limited. Start with a 3 oz. portion, eat slowly, go back for seconds if still hungry.

Vegetables:Minimum 2 cups.
We encourage you to include a serving of beans (1/3-1/2 cup) as part of your vegetables.

Fruit: None

Starch: None

Milk/Dairy: 2 cups allowed daily (including yogurt)

Fat: 1 Tbsp mayonnaise, trans-free margarine or oil, or 2 Tbsp salad dressing



DESSERT / EVENING SNACK
Desserts are optional. Enjoy some of your Sweet Treat allowance, a dessert, or any of the snack choices.

SWEET TREATS
Sweet Treats are products that contain sugar alcohols. You can enjoy them throughout the day to satisfy your sweet tooth ? just limit yourself to roughly 75 calories worth per day to avoid any GI distress.
See a list of Sweet Treat options here

BEVERAGES
Diet, decaffeinated, sugar-free drinks are not limited. You can enjoy caffeinated coffee or diet sodas with caffeine added, but limit to 1 - 2 servings per day.


This one is for phase I....
it tells you what you need to include at each meal and snack.
Protein, veggie, fat.....its all right there.
If you don't understand it, ask me more questions and I'll try to help you.
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Old Thu, Dec-17-09, 15:45
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So...trying to pull from this Meal Plan Guide, here is what I come up with:

Per day:
Milk/Dairy - 2 servings (1 cup each)
Vegetables - 4 to 6 servings
Fruit - 0 on Phase I
Lean Protein - 6 or more ounces a day
Beans - 2 servings (1/3 - 1/2 cup each)
Nuts/Seeds - *Not sure what min./max. should be
Sweet Treats - 75 calories a day
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Old Thu, Dec-17-09, 16:26
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And does an egg count as a dairy or a protein?
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Old Thu, Dec-17-09, 19:12
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Plan: No sugar, flour, wheat
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Originally Posted by Renee4LC
So...trying to pull from this Meal Plan Guide, here is what I come up with:


Per day:
Milk/Dairy - 2 servings (1 cup each)
Vegetables - 4 to 6 servings
Fruit - 0 on Phase I
Lean Protein - 6 or more ounces a day
Beans - 2 servings (1/3 - 1/2 cup each)
Nuts/Seeds - *Not sure what min./max. should be
Sweet Treats - 75 calories a day

Good and I'll now give you more info.
Milk/dairy- up to 2 cups daily (this can include yogurt too)
I count all cheese in the dairy category and keep my hard cheese to 1-2 ozs a day. I eat 1/2 cup yogurt as my breakfast and sometimes have 1/2 cup of cottage cheese as my late afternoon snack with soem tomato and onion.
SBD doee allow for cheese to be an unlimited protein but I do not agree and have been using the 2 cup dairy daily as my total. You get to chose how you use the allowance...it can be milk if you want.

Veggies
Yup! 4-6 servings a day and here is where I will allow myself to overeat if I'm very hungry. Very BIG SALADS!!!

Fruitnone in phase I but do you really need to be phase I now? how about you allow yourself 1 fruit a day after 3 days of phase I?

Protein 3-4 ozs per meal or more if you are still hungry....so that'll get you up to 12 ozs a day at least... and eggs are considered a protein...*see the food lists*

beans/legumes
Yes, 2 servings daily 1/3-1/2 cup is a serving
this can be actual beans...or things like hummus made from chick peas....or split pea soup.

nuts'/seeds
We are allowed 1 serving in this category daily---you get to decide which one or split the serving between 2 ....2 tbs peanut butter is a serving or 30 pistachios in the shells is a serving *see the food lists for quantities per item** I used to save my nut allowance each day for my late night snack...30 pistachios in the shells took a long time to eat and made me a happy camper!

sweet treat has been upped to 100 cals a day....I still like to no suagr added fudgsicles as you can have 2 of them and meet the cals.....2 x 40 cals= 80 cals.

You can view the food I ate in my first journal here as I logged it daily for 20 months...link is on the 1st pagew of my current journal. My food wasn't perfect but it is logged.
Hope this helps!
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Old Fri, Dec-18-09, 07:32
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Plan: DSP
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Thanks Judy! You are always so helpful.
BTW - I did WW twice. The first time I lost 14 lbs, the second time I lost 10 lbs. While that is nice, I never got past that and I have A LOT of weight to lose.

Here's my final break down:

Per day:
Milk/Dairy/Cheese - 2 servings (1 cup each)
Vegetables - 4 to 6 servings
Fruit - 0 on Phase I, 1 serving on Phase II
Lean Protein/Eggs - 6 or more ounces a day
Beans - 2 servings (1/3 - 1/2 cup each)
Nuts/Seeds - I serving a day
Sweet Treats - 100 calories a day

I think I will print this up and put it on my fridge.
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Old Fri, Dec-18-09, 09:27
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Plan: No sugar, flour, wheat
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Progress: 33%
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Originally Posted by Renee4LC
Thanks Judy! You are always so helpful.
BTW - I did WW twice. The first time I lost 14 lbs, the second time I lost 10 lbs. While that is nice, I never got past that and I have A LOT of weight to lose.

Here's my final break down:

Per day:
Milk/Dairy/Cheese - 2 servings (1 cup each)
Vegetables - 4 to 6 servings
Fruit - 0 on Phase I, 1 serving on Phase II
Lean Protein/Eggs - 6 or more ounces a day
Beans - 2 servings (1/3 - 1/2 cup each)
Nuts/Seeds - I serving a day
Sweet Treats - 100 calories a day

I think I will print this up and put it on my fridge.

Good...just a couple of notes:
1-You and I have both left out good fats...which are important so don't leave them out. **olives, avacodos, evoo and others are all on the fats list.**
2-6 ozs of protein daily is not enough for you so please be sure to get more, up to 12 ozs each day.

One thing that I did and still do is not eat all parts of each meal at one time and have parts of meals as snacks...this is a lot of food if eaten all together. For example: hummus and or split pea soup as snacks.....make a big pot of veggie soup to have as snacks also. I use a hand blender to puree all my soups now.
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Old Wed, Dec-23-09, 07:28
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Good...just a couple of notes:
1-You and I have both left out good fats...which are important so don't leave them out. **olives, avacodos, evoo and others are all on the fats list.**


From the looks of the food lists the servings of fats seem to work out to 7 servings (based on a 1 tsp serving).

You can correct me if I am wrong.

Great thread, btw.
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Old Wed, Dec-23-09, 09:22
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From the looks of the food lists the servings of fats seem to work out to 7 servings (based on a 1 tsp serving).

You can correct me if I am wrong.

Great thread, btw.

If you counted 7, then that is probably correct.
I have never counted and maybe I should.

I just make sure to add a handful of my favorite olives and a piece of avocado to my salads each day in addition to the evoo in my dressing.
I also try to eat fatty wild salmon a few times a week but that gets kinda pricey for me.

The things that I do count are my starches....that is where I have to keep very close control so I count. 2-3 good starches daily...if that.
Last night I had roasted sweet potato fries with my dinner of pan seared salmon filet and roasted broccoli and cauliflower.
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Old Thu, Dec-24-09, 09:35
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Plan: DSP
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Here's an updated break down:

PER DAY:
Milk/Dairy/Cheese - 2 servings (1 cup each)
Vegetables - 4 to 6 servings
Fruit - 0 on Phase I, 1 serving on Phase II
Lean Protein/Eggs - up to 12 ounces a day
Good Fats - 7 servings (1 tsp per serving)
Beans - 2 servings (1/3 - 1/2 cup each)
Nuts/Seeds - 1 serving a day
Sweet Treats - 100 calories a day
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Old Thu, Dec-24-09, 09:45
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Plan: No sugar, flour, wheat
Stats: 228.4/209.0/170 Female 5'6"
BF:stl/too/mch
Progress: 33%
Location: NYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Renee4LC
Here's an updated break down:

PER DAY:
Milk/Dairy/Cheese - 2 servings (1 cup each)
Vegetables - 4 to 6 servings
Fruit - 0 on Phase I, 1 serving on Phase II
Lean Protein/Eggs - up to 12 ounces a day
Good Fats - 7 servings (1 tsp per serving)
Beans - 2 servings (1/3 - 1/2 cup each)
Nuts/Seeds - 1 serving a day
Sweet Treats - 100 calories a day

Good Renee!!
I'd just like to add that when we start our phase II, we begin with 1 serving of fruit per day first week in addition to all the other phase I food.

We then build on that each week as we continue to lose trying new fruits and starches eventually working upwards to about 2-3 fruits a day and 2-3 good starches per day. If you are not doing a lot of moving, you will not be able to lose on 2-3 fruits + 2-3 starches per day and that is in my experience.

This is key to building a food plan that you can live with after you reach your goal weight. When we don't do this and stay too phase I, our bodies do not adapt to burning these good carbs. I also found that upping my carbs did help my body to lose at a good rate when I was near my goal. In my experience, good carbs did help my metabolism to burn better.
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Old Thu, Dec-24-09, 12:17
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Hello,
I have been on a diet for the past fifteen years so i know the ins and outs of most programs

The most success I have ever had on South Beach, was actually following WW's general health guidelines (little boxes you check off each day). Even with the points system, they encourage you to check off the boxes and let me tell you, its super easy when following SB.

Veggies - 5

Dairy-2 (3 for men, teenagers and nursing mothers)

Lean protein- atleast 2, 3-4oz servings

Good Fats- 2 tsp

Water - 6 (I always try to get atleast 8)

Hopefully this was helpful and not confusing.
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Old Thu, Dec-24-09, 13:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Renee4LC
Here's an updated break down:

PER DAY:
Milk/Dairy/Cheese - 2 servings (1 cup each)
Vegetables - 4 to 6 servings
Fruit - 0 on Phase I, 1 serving on Phase II
Lean Protein/Eggs - up to 12 ounces a day
Good Fats - 7 servings (1 tsp per serving)
Beans - 2 servings (1/3 - 1/2 cup each)
Nuts/Seeds - 1 serving a day
Sweet Treats - 100 calories a day


Regarding the vegetable servings.....is it a half cup serving or a one cup serving?
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Old Thu, Dec-24-09, 14:08
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Plan: No sugar, flour, wheat
Stats: 228.4/209.0/170 Female 5'6"
BF:stl/too/mch
Progress: 33%
Location: NYC
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Regarding the vegetable servings.....is it a half cup serving or a one cup serving?

One cup is a serving....1/2 cup if you use tomato juice or V8 for breakfast.
But one thing that you need to is simply that all phase I veggies can be eaten freely....we can't ever not eat them and 5 cups daily is a minimum, not maximum.


Quote:
Originally Posted by jmr
Hello,
I have been on a diet for the past fifteen years so i know the ins and outs of most programs

The most success I have ever had on South Beach, was actually following WW's general health guidelines (little boxes you check off each day). Even with the points system, they encourage you to check off the boxes and let me tell you, its super easy when following SB.

Veggies - 5

Dairy-2 (3 for men, teenagers and nursing mothers)

Lean protein- atleast 2, 3-4oz servings

Good Fats- 2 tsp

Water - 6 (I always try to get atleast 8)

Hopefully this was helpful and not confusing.

We get way more fats that 2 tsp and as I just wrote, 5 cups of veggies daily is a minimum not maximum.
The meal plan guide will tell you all. **see above**
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Old Mon, Dec-28-09, 07:30
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The General Health Guidelines on WW are all minimums as well. I should have made that clear.
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