Personally, I feel like I am close to a head explosion due to conflicting information. I wonder if rather than focus on specific food groups that "cause" diabetes, heart disease, etc, which is a difficult study to do well anyway, it makes more sense to focus on first determining the root causes of obesity, which is intrinsically related to the other two diseases. What I really want is for the western medical establishment to acknowledge the things we already know and discuss on this forum, rather than repeating the same tired conclusions over and over, using poor science and methods we debunked 30 years ago. /rant