Dr. B says 20 total carbs, too. He says if you really, really want to use net carbs, subtract only half the fiber, not all of it as so many people do now. The only time I subtract fiber is with a couple of really high fiber recipes I have - other than that I don't bother.

I have a vegetable 2-3 times a day. Sometimes it's nothing more than celery with homemade dip (those are my lazy days), but I usually have cooked greens with my morning egg & a salad at lunch. Even eating veggies 3x in a day, there's NO WAY I could eat 3 cups!