You have said pretty much what I was expecting---- and hoping. As I want to move my kids to keto, and push more vegies than fruits.

Honestly I think fruits are over rated--- when we hear 5-7 fruits and vegies a day I know I hear 7 fruits a day. And my kids reach for fruit and never vegies for a snack.

I agree, 45 carbs a day is more than most consume here on this forum, but IMO there are a lot of vegies hiding in those 45 carbs, and nutrients that are worth the carbs. Atkin often suggested maximizing the number of carbs and still maintain weight.

My boys are 90-95% grown, and should be able to handle lc-keto diet, and save their teeth. Given that both pinch less than 1/2" I can only assume they do not have IR issues at this time.

Bananas are overrated as a food---they certainly get me into trouble. lol