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Old Sat, Mar-20-10, 08:02
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Plan: M-F vlc, looser LC wkends
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JKstyle, it sounds like you're both really on the path to health and your daughter is lucky to have a mom like you behind her, who will really support her and help her find the tools she needs.

But what do you mean when you say you use calculus invictus to calculate the ratios? You mean in the same way you would use a calculator I assume?

In any case however, 35C : 45P : 140F is a ratio of .77 : 1: 3.5

This IS why she is not losing. If she is not losing on the standard JK ratio, he recommends that the ratios should be 0.3-0.5C : 1P: 1.5F. for best results.

The protein you have +10/-10% leeway with; but in percentage terms, the ratios you are currently giving her mean that:

- her carbs are potentially as much 50% higher than they should be (if they were kept at the most conservative end of the ratio range Dr K gives for weight loss
- her protein is still 45% lower than it should be
- and her fat is 133% higher than it should be, if you were once again, to go by the most conservative end of Dr K's recommended ratio range. (This would be based on the premise that sticking to the conservative end of his range on Carbs and Fat is what he reccommends people do if they 1) have a lot to lose, or 2) are not seeing results. Clearly, your daughter does not fall into the first category; but this again illustrates the point that even Dr K himself would only ever tweak Carb and Fat numbers downwards in order to encourage weight loss in any difficult cases, and never the protein number; due to the fact it is already calculated to reflect the ideal amount we should be eating for our ideal size - at our current and respective heights.


It is far more obvious from a mathematical standpoint and just by looking at the percentage over and under, that according to the ratios you are currently using, her numbers are actually completely out of anything that would even be the Dr K ratio ballpark.

However; please note that the percentages calculated above are based on the protein amount you are currently giving her; not on what it should be, for her height. In other words, the Fat and Carb numbers on this plan ALWAYS change in relation to what the amount of protein being eaten is, and not vice versa. So you would never be able to just raise the protein for example. Because all of the numbers would change according to how that protein amount changes, due to the sheer fact that it is a ratio relationship between the three.

If you change Protein AND Fat AND Carbs to what they should be (in order to reflect Dr. K's reccommened ratios for weight loss), she will see a loss. (And please bear in mind that these are in fact, Dr K's true ratios for best fat loss, and not some kind of manipulation by me.)

Raising her protein alone will not help her start losing. If you want to use Dr. K ratios for weight loss, you have to actually use the ratios he gives for weight loss. Which means you need to adjust and completely correct all three.

Best of luck to you! I am wishing you both much success from now on, and a great weekend!

honey
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