Thanks Nancy - I don't disagree on most points - the poster wanted to hear the arguments!

I do think that those claiming to do Atkins but staying on induction level - whether that is 2 cups or 3, it is still not enough for a WOL! - for months are part of the problem of why people think of it as being low on fiber and fruits and veggies. I had an exchange in our journals with another dieter - she says she is doing Atkins with low animal fat modifications, I say I am doing SBD with Atkins modifications (i.e. lower carb than SBD phase 2) and we are doing the same.