Just now noticed this thread. Just getting back to living LC/NC ... mostly meat & some dairy ... after another month of trying to go vegan & going almost gaga with hunger every 2 hours while trying. The only thing that works long for me now age 73 is nearly no-carb. Atkins pioneered the path for me in his 1972 first book. It worked for me then & does now as well. This is my second day here again. I've been a sober member of Bill W's gang for 31 years.