I did misunderstand you Rob. I agree that leaving it to the government to enact policies that promote health is not going to work. A grassroots effort is certainly necessary with the hopes that it will lift everybody up. We are all effected by the ill health of the general populace. Moving beyond concern for our own health and expanding our efforts out so that we might help others is beneficial to everyone, ourselves incuded. Many people here, in different ways, are engaged in doing that. It's one of the things I like about this forum