Sun, May-20-18, 19:52
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Senior Member
Posts: 2,371
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: 296/220/205
BF:25%?
Progress: 84%
Location: Upstate SC
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Marty, an engineer who runs the website and Facebook group, Optimising Nutrition, states that: “If your aim is exercise performance or fat loss then ketones between 0.5mmol/L and 1.3mmol/L might be all you need to aim for. I also think loading up on dietary fat at the expense of getting adequate protein, vitamins and minerals may be counterproductive in the long term.”
Marty also points out that not everyone on a ketogenic diet will get high ketone levels – for example, Sami Inkenen only had around 0.6mmol/L when he was rowing from the US to Hawaii on an 80% fat diet.
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Well let's take it from an engineer who runs a website and Facebook group.... 0.5 to 1.3 might be right..... or not as one guy had 0.6. Whatever.
The author of the link makes this statement right before puting up that chart,
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There’s no such thing as an optimal recommendation for everyone because we just don’t know how to measure or understand all those processes as much as we’d like to think we do!”
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So there is it. We just don't understand. The reason we don't understand is that ketones are only related to our fat to carb ratio by implication. The Absolute worst thing that P&V did was try to show a relationship between ketones and some sort of optimal. There is a real honest to goodness relationship between the % fat burned and respiratory quotient. There has to be as the hydrogen to carbon ratio of the fuel changes hence the H2O to CO2 exhaled (the RQ) changes.
There is NO scientific data on relationship between the level of blood ketones and weight loss. None.
The leading researchers for LCHF weight loss, Dr. Westman and Dr. Atkins, tell us not to worry about it.
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