Eating ultra-processed meat linked to greater risk of early death
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They lump in ham, which has been eaten for a long long time: China in 4900 B.C Yet they add "convenience meals and processed snacks" at the end. But it's the HAM that does it. We have to get the HAM out of the "convenience meals and processed snacks" then, and sub in soy for protein. Plant-based forever, woo hoo! Despite the success I've had with a low plant intake, I'm not 100% carnivore, either. Learning that the hidden factor with my success was the healing effects of letting my body dump oxalate, safely, means some plants are still my friends. Romaine and arugula instead of spinach and kale. Simple subs and portion control of the problematic lets me eat a way I like, more than ever. Quote:
Gee, think scaring people away from red meat and heme iron has anything to do with it? |
Ha - I could have stopped reading at "Harvard."
My lunch today is probably going to be a boiled egg, prosciutto (ingredients: pork, salt) and maybe a few pork rinds (ingredients: pork skin, lard, salt) and salsa (who cares about the ingredients? It's plant based so it gets a free pass!) |
Mmmm. I'd only add sour cream. My fuel.
Crushed pork rinds are my new baking mix. Also, the meat highest in thiamine, which powers our mitochondria. To help our recovery from deep fatigue, DH and I have been taking benfothiamine. Our doctor is intrigued and we look forward to reporting improvements to him next time. Because we both seem to be getting out and about, and it's not merely the Spring Fever. |
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Yes, it was observational so nothing was found! |
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You are 100% correct. |
This is not science; it is propaganda. Just for starters, the data which this study used to reach its conclusion are food questionnaires collected every four years. Garbage in garbage out applies here. Nothing about this so called study merits attention.
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Oh yes, I recall every detail of exactly how much I ate of every imaginable food over the previous four years, doesn't everyone? /sarcasm Most people can't recall what they ate yesterday with any degree of accuracy. How could anyone expect them to recall a detailed list of foods consumed over the course of 4 YEARS? |
Every time I scan through this article, I find more and more ridiculous sounding information:
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I look at the age ranges and... ya know, if they stared out at those ages, of course this wasn't a surprising result: Quote:
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I'd like to know how many there were who died but did NOT die in those categories (and what categories were their deaths classified under: fatal accidents, murder, suicide, non-respiratory infection?), and how many actually survived those 34 years of the study, because I'm pretty sure that not too many of the 75 year olds survived long enough to get much data about their dietary habits to begin with. Quote:
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So limit yourself to what they consider to be the lowest UPF consumption (3 servings daily) and you have a 4% less risk of dying over the next 34 years compared to someone who eats 7 servings of UPF daily. Um... Isn't 5% or less difference considered to be statistically insignificant? I'm not saying go ahead and eat 7 servings of UPFs daily, just that their 34 year study shows nothing at all of any significance. And that's before you even get into the way they fudged their UPF definition: "We insist that minimally processed ham is in the UPF category, but we refuse to consider whole grain bread to be a UPF even though it's highly processed, because The Powers That Be hath previously ordained whole grains as the epitome of healthy food." :rolleyes: :bash: |
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The lowest group had three daily servings? No controls? If everyone is eating junk how can we tell? |
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Well there's also their erratic definition of what constitutes UPF. Quote:
Might as well just say pork in general, because even though ham has preservatives, sausage isn't necessarily cured - breakfast sausage is just ground and seasoned pork, no preservatives necessary. Why weren't pork chops or ribs included in this category? Quote:
But diets high in sugary and artificially sweetened desserts didn't have the same effect? And if both sugary drinks and artificially sweetened drinks have the exact same effect, maybe it's not the sugar or artificial sweetener - maybe it's some other component of the drinks. Quote:
If I eat an individual donut or bagel from the bakery case, it's apparently fine since it's not a packaged food. If I buy a bag of frozen strawberries - oops bad, because it's packaged. If I open a bag of spinach to cook for dinner - that's packaged, and therefore bad. If I bake a cake or pie from scratch, it's fine because it's not packaged. I realize what they MEAN is if you're eating cookies and candy and donuts all day, it's bad - doesn't matter whether they were packaged or not. What they MEAN is if you're eating fruits and vegetables, it's good - doesn't matter if they're fresh, frozen, or canned. Quote:
Of course they have an aversion to animal products in general. But they also specify ready to eat versions of meat, poultry and seafood... Ready to eat meats might include jerky or beef sticks. Or maybe it's including fast food burgers - which as we know are mostly bread. Ready to eat poultry - rotisserie chickens? I can't think of any others right off hand, unless you're buying pulled and shredded chicken from rotisserie chickens. Or maybe they're including KFC, because that's ready to eat. What seafood ready to eat products are there? Pre-cooked shrimp cocktail rings? Packaged tuna salad with crackers "lunches"? (which are mostly white flour crackers with seed oils, and seed oil based mayo) And of course Filet O' Fish sandwiches. And dairy based desserts - why not just come right out and say ice cream? They generalize far too much - my guess is that it's in order to demonize animal products in general. |
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Exactly - but you won't get them to admit that. Every single "official" dietary analysis blames the burger and cheese, instead of the huge fluffy bun, mountain of potatoes used to make the fries, and enormous vat of sugary soda, even though the bulk of the calories always comes from carbs. If the fast food places switched to 96% lean burger and fat free cheese, and figured out some way to make fat-free fries, the official analysis would still consider the bun, potatoes and soda to be innocent in all this. They'd blame the tiny remaining 4 g of fat left in the burger (36 calories), and the animal source protein in the burger and cheese (120 calories) as the root of all the problems, even though the carbs from a burger, small fries and small soda add up to 448 calories of pure carbs. I can imagine them declaring "see, we removed almost all the fat, and there's still a problem - it's got to be the animal sourced protein, even with minimal animal fats that's the root of the problem, because we know that the starchy calories supplied by the bread, potatoes and soda are good for you." |
Big Mac ingredients.
Big Mac Bun Ingredients: Enriched Flour (wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, Sugar, Yeast, Soybean Oil, Contains 2% Or Less: Salt, Wheat Gluten, Sesame Seeds, Potato Flour, Vinegar, Dextrose, Corn Starch, Modified Food Starch, Vegetable Proteins (pea, Potato, Rice And/or Faba Bean), Sunflower And/or Canola Oil, Maltodextrin, Natural Flavors, May Contain One Or More Dough Conditioners (datem, Ascorbic Acid, Mono And Diglycerides, Enzymes), 100% Beef Patty Ingredients: 100% Pure Usda Inspected Beef; No Fillers, No Extenders. Prepared With Grill Seasoning (salt, Black Pepper). Shredded Lettuce Ingredients: Lettuce. Big Mac Sauce Ingredients: Soybean Oil, Sweet Relish (diced Pickles, Sugar, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Distilled Vinegar, Salt, Corn Syrup, Xanthan Gum, Calcium Chloride, Spice Extractives), Water, Egg Yolks, Distilled Vinegar, Spices, Onion Powder, Salt, Propylene Glycol Alginate, Garlic Powder, Vegetable Protein (hydrolyzed Corn, Soy And Wheat), Sugar, Caramel Color, Turmeric, Extractives Of Paprika, Soy Lecithin. Pasteurized Process American Cheese Ingredients: Milk, Cream, Water, Sodium Citrate, Salt, Cheese Cultures, Citric Acid, Enzymes, Soy Lecithin, Color Added. Pickle Slices Ingredients: Cucumbers, Water, Distilled Vinegar, Salt, Calcium Chloride, Alum, Potassium Sorbate (preservative), Natural Flavors, Polysorbate 80, Extractives Of Turmeric (color). Onions Ingredients: Onions. Must be the beef that makes it unhealthy! |
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Of course it is! What else could it possibly be? Surely you're not implying that the Enriched Flour (wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Sugar, Soybean Oil, Wheat Gluten, Potato Flour, Dextrose, Corn Starch, Modified Food Starch, Vegetable Proteins (pea, Potato, Rice And/or Faba Bean), Sunflower And/or Canola Oil, Maltodextrin, Natural Flavors, datem, Ascorbic Acid, Mono And Diglycerides, Enzymes, Soybean Oil, Sugar, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Corn Syrup, Xanthan Gum, Calcium Chloride, Spice Extractives, Propylene Glycol Alginate, Vegetable Protein (hydrolyzed Corn, Soy And Wheat), Sugar, Caramel Color, Turmeric, Extractives Of Paprika, Soy Lecithin, Sodium Citrate, Citric Acid, Enzymes, Soy Lecithin, Color, Calcium Chloride, Alum, Potassium Sorbate (preservative), Natural Flavors, Polysorbate 80, and Extractives Of Turmeric (color) could have any kind of detrimental effect on health! |
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