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Dodger Wed, Apr-03-24 07:50

As obesity rises, Big Food and dietitians push ‘anti-diet’ advice
 
General Mills warns of ‘food shaming’; dietitian influencers promote junk foods and discourage weight loss efforts
https://wapo.st/43JAK6E

JEY100 Wed, Apr-03-24 09:51

This is a thorough investigation of Big Food influence and how they have infiltrated the HAES movement. It is a joint investigation by The Washington Post and The Examination, a new nonprofit newsroom specializing in global public health reporting, the same joint investigators who broke the sponsored social media Influencers role in fighting UPF news.

Calianna Wed, Apr-03-24 13:42

I'm sure they're desperate to keep business booming with so many of their severely overweight customers going on the GLP-1 drugs - the loss of appetite on those drugs is probably already cutting into their profit margin.

They'll probably make single serving ozempic sized snacks - Make sure the fat content in them is low enough that it doesn't make GLP-1 users sick, and sell them at a premium price.

Of course gearing up for that could take a while. In the meantime, they'll be trying to keep as many customers as possible.

deirdra Thu, Apr-04-24 00:08

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Originally Posted by Calianna
Of course gearing up for that could take a while. In the meantime, they'll be trying to keep as many customers as possible.
Or they can pull out their old "Snackwell's" & similar recipes and just give them new names. People will probably balloon up quickly since Ozempic does not preserve lean muscle mass and the regained weight will be mostly fat, increasing their percent BF and making them sicker.

WereBear Thu, Apr-04-24 03:38

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Health experts say the most worrisome trend among anti-diet influencers is the alarming amount of misinformation they spread, including claims that excess weight isn’t a health risk.


While we do have a problem with doctors trained to be drug dispensing robots, doctors also have a problem with patients who expect them to "fix it" without any effort on the part of the patients.

It leads to bizarre rants from people claiming their overweight makes their doctor ignore their distress. But if their poor metabolic state IS what is causing their knee pain, backaches, and all the distress that comes from chronic high blood sugars, it complicates everything else.

If what they eat is really the problem, it has to be addressed at the root. I'm afraid the concept of "artificial addictive food" is not something most people are going to get, even as they joke they are "addicted" to their favorite of such foods.

Calianna Thu, Apr-04-24 13:03

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Originally Posted by WereBear
While we do have a problem with doctors trained to be drug dispensing robots, doctors also have a problem with patients who expect them to "fix it" without any effort on the part of the patients.

It leads to bizarre rants from people claiming their overweight makes their doctor ignore their distress. But if their poor metabolic state IS what is causing their knee pain, backaches, and all the distress that comes from chronic high blood sugars, it complicates everything else.

If what they eat is really the problem, it has to be addressed at the root. I'm afraid the concept of "artificial addictive food" is not something most people are going to get, even as they joke they are "addicted" to their favorite of such foods.


They're not being told to avoid what's making them so sick and fat though - they're hearing the same ol' same ol' low fat, avoid meat unless it's lean, use fat free dairy, eat lots of whole grains, veggies, and fruit.

If they're metabolically messed up (which they probably are if they're fat and sick), that just makes things worse, so it's the last thing they need to be doing.

Nobody in their lives is telling them to avoid starches and sugars of all kinds, get plenty of meat and dairy with their naturally occurring fats, some green veggies, and limit your fruit to berries.

Even if the doctors got on board with that, it's still a hard push to get patients to follow a diet that's almost the exact opposite of what they've eaten for decades, and the concept of ditching bread and pasta is so foreign to them that they can't believe the doctor is being so cruel... so they're back to just pulling out the Rx pad and ordering a GLP-1, because at least that will generally result in weight loss so help get the physical problems under control.

WereBear Thu, Apr-04-24 23:04

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Originally Posted by Calianna
--it's still a hard push to get patients to follow a diet that's almost the exact opposite of what they've eaten for decades, and the concept of ditching bread and pasta is so foreign to them that they can't believe the doctor is being so cruel... so they're back to just pulling out the Rx pad and ordering a GLP-1, because at least that will generally result in weight loss so help get the physical problems under control.


THIS more than anything else. Because if someone is eating their feelings, nothing is going to help until they start to spread out their coping strategies. ONE strategy is never a good idea, as we are destined to overuse it.

Therapy is cheaper than the drugs. But I know... insurance doesn't want to pay for it. We aren't giving people enough help in ways that matter. Others decide...

And yet, I live in a small rural town, not trendy at all, and people are aware of keto/lowcarb methods. They know that pint of ice cream every night is the problem, and so does their doctor. These are societally-encouraged bad habits. At a time we are all super-stressed.

And someone comes along and says, "Just take this drug and you magically won't crave food."

I don't blame anyone for trying it. But even in Disney movies there's always a catch with magic.

As I like to say, "science is magic that actually works." Here, science is being recruited to fool people. They need real help, not a drug that paralyzes the digestive system. It's no different from jaw wiring at this point. Except people recover from that.

People might not recover from this.


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