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Key Tones Sun, Aug-04-19 17:33

Burn Fat Not Sugar - Dr. Ted Naiman’s Plan
 
Anyone follow Dr. Ted Naiman/Burn Fat Not Sugar?

I seem to get stuck around the 250s. I am going to try incorporating his ideas.

Here is a great post he just made. I’m taking this seriously.

Key Tones Sun, Aug-04-19 17:54

I can’t seem to upload the picture.

Anyway, the post shows that

—fat exits the body via the mitochondria
—training doubles the mitochondria

GRB5111 Sun, Aug-04-19 21:19

Here's a detailed explanation with Mike Mutzel of High Intensity Health, it's about an hour long interview with Naiman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JipRwP754jA

Little Me Sun, Aug-04-19 22:52

That was most interesting. Thanks!

Key Tones Mon, Aug-05-19 08:26

I’m pretty lucky-I happen to live about three miles from his practice. He has been my doc since around 2003 and put me on low carb back then.

I’ve been fascinated with fasting and how it can drastically change your health, body composition, and weight loss by making even small changes.

Here is Dr. Naiman’s guide to time-restricted eating windows:

https://www.dietdoctor.com/intermit...stricted-eating

JEY100 Mon, Aug-05-19 09:07

I love his guide to Fasting, think I downloaded it from his website before even finding out about Dr. Fung in Spring of 2014.

Since you know him, pass along my sincere thanks for that and heartfelt request that he post more on his website. Call me old-fashioned but Twitter is not the place to share Medical Information. Unfortunately, there are a few doctors I follow who do focus their efforts on Twitter, so I have to remember to check their activity every few weeks or so. Twitter is such a cesspool dipping into it daily is not on for me...eewww :lol:

Key Tones Mon, Aug-05-19 09:53

Quote:
Originally Posted by JEY100
I love his guide to Fasting, think I downloaded it from his website before even finding out about Dr. Fung in Spring of 2014.

Since you know him, pass along my sincere thanks for that and heartfelt request that he post more on his website. Call me old-fashioned but Twitter is not the place to share Medical Information. Unfortunately, there are a few doctors I follow who do focus their efforts on Twitter, so I have to remember to check their activity every few weeks or so. Twitter is such a cesspool dipping into it daily is not on for me...eewww :lol:


Janet - thank you for commenting! I will pass on your comment! Dr. Naiman is truly awesome!

I only recently started looking at Twitter again after registering about 10 years ago and bailing on it. There are several low carb docs posting there that I like! I don't have any friends on twitter that I follow, but I have learned a lot just watching their posts, and you don't see other people commenting on their posts unless you try (you have to dig into it), so it isn't as annoying as facebook.

Kristine Mon, Aug-05-19 11:28

Key Tones, I'm jealous. I have a huge crush on Dr Naiman, probably because he looks like a ripped version of my husband. :lol: In all seriousness, though, I really appreciate what he does for the LC community. I love his graphics, his sense of humour, and how he looks at peoples' efforts realistically: example, he'd prefer that you skip the cream in your coffee, but if that's the deal-breaker for you to not bother trying it, then go ahead and have a dribble of cream. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good, as the saying goes.

I also think he's a great role model for being fit without spending hours at a gym: just eat well, do some body weight exercises or what not, and voila, you can look like me. I haaaaate exercise for the sake of exercise and if I'm going to do it, it better not take up much of my time.

Please likewise pass on my fan-girl heart-eyes-emoji thanks. ;)

GRB5111 Mon, Aug-05-19 14:02

Quote:
Originally Posted by Key Tones
I’m pretty lucky-I happen to live about three miles from his practice. He has been my doc since around 2003 and put me on low carb back then.

I’ve been fascinated with fasting and how it can drastically change your health, body composition, and weight loss by making even small changes.

Here is Dr. Naiman’s guide to time-restricted eating windows:

https://www.dietdoctor.com/intermit...stricted-eating

Key Tones, I read Naiman's guide a while back. Thanks for the refresher. He keeps things simple and direct with an excellent structure for a healthy lifestyle.

GRB5111 Mon, Aug-05-19 14:33

Here's a very informative video by Dr. Naiman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsROBLqr-SE

Key Tones Mon, Aug-05-19 14:43

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristine
Key Tones, I'm jealous. I have a huge crush on Dr Naiman, probably because he looks like a ripped version of my husband. :lol: In all seriousness, though, I really appreciate what he does for the LC community. I love his graphics, his sense of humour, and how he looks at peoples' efforts realistically: example, he'd prefer that you skip the cream in your coffee, but if that's the deal-breaker for you to not bother trying it, then go ahead and have a dribble of cream. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good, as the saying goes.

I also think he's a great role model for being fit without spending hours at a gym: just eat well, do some body weight exercises or what not, and voila, you can look like me. I haaaaate exercise for the sake of exercise and if I'm going to do it, it better not take up much of my time.

Please likewise pass on my fan-girl heart-eyes-emoji thanks. ;)



Will do! :)

You know, it is hard to tell what he is really like in real life from his videos and social media. He really such a nice, caring doctor. He looks a bit horrified if you bring up something about how amazing it is that he can do a slow handstand from a tripod. All conversation is to be about you and your health.

Seriously, there is no trace of ego at all! He is the best doctor I have ever had.

Key Tones Mon, Aug-05-19 21:22

Here is a recent talk where he goes over nutrient/protein density in foods and how this directly affects appetite. A bit of a science lesson at first - hang in there, it gets very good:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UsROBLqr-SE

Key Tones Mon, Aug-05-19 21:23

Thank you all for commenting and support!

Ms Arielle Tue, Aug-06-19 13:47

Quote:
Originally Posted by Key Tones
Here is a recent talk where he goes over nutrient/protein density in foods and how this directly affects appetite. A bit of a science lesson at first - hang in there, it gets very good:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UsROBLqr-SE


Very interesting perspective. Just what I was looking for to help my teens stay trim. And now I can stop feeling guilty for eating animal protein greater than a " 4 oz serving".

Little Me Tue, Aug-06-19 14:39

Excellent YouTube video. Even the science-y part. Thank you.

I learn so much from this forum! 🤔

Key Tones Tue, Aug-06-19 17:53

So glad you liked it!

Key Tones Wed, Aug-07-19 23:01

Here is Dr. Naiman’s Guide to body weight exercises for beginners.

I’m a pretty poor physical specimen; I use an exercise ball myself, and I have a vibration plate with big handle bars I use to do pull ups from a seated position.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c57p605PDZc

Key Tones Tue, Nov-12-19 22:05

I started a thread about Dr. Naiman's book thePEdiet.com! It's in the LC Research/Media section.

I am so happy he finally produced a book! I posted a couple of interviews about the book there too -

Key Tones Thu, Nov-14-19 11:11

Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Me
That was most interesting. Thanks!



Great! Thank you for commenting :)

Ms Arielle Thu, Nov-14-19 12:46

Quote:
Originally Posted by Key Tones
Here is Dr. Naiman’s Guide to body weight exercises for beginners.

I’m a pretty poor physical specimen; I use an exercise ball myself, and I have a vibration plate with big handle bars I use to do pull ups from a seated position.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c57p605PDZc


not that long ago I was limited to bed rest. Just moving the body mass was an exercise. Decided to start small. Sit on couch and do leg lifts, just sitting. Kept progressing slowly. Eventually built up lung xapacity again, and could run up stairs. Still not were I used to be, but I'll take it. Progress. :)

Key Tones Thu, Nov-14-19 16:29

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ms Arielle
not that long ago I was limited to bed rest. Just moving the body mass was an exercise. Decided to start small. Sit on couch and do leg lifts, just sitting. Kept progressing slowly. Eventually built up lung xapacity again, and could run up stairs. Still not were I used to be, but I'll take it. Progress. :)


That is really awesome! I have some idea how really hard that is. it is a really long road and a lot of work.

I had a family member that was in the ICU unconscious on a respirator for a week and then in the hospital bed for weeks after that. It was surprising how incredibly weak he was. They had a therapist come in to work with him just to try to move, stand up, walk, etc.

They released him, but he found he couldn't stand up from the couch or go up the stairs. The therapist had to work with him at home. It was a a very long road, especially while trying to recover from a pretty invasive surgery.

Ms Arielle Thu, Nov-14-19 16:39

ya, that is a double wammy. The brain and the body needs recovery. Glad he has PT!! Back when my kids were 1 and 3 , I spent 2 weeks sitting in bed. Then emergency brain surgery of a sort. I was sent home to manage two babies, almost useless. Fortunately friends brought dinner each day for a week. So grateful. Took two years to get back to full speed physically. The brain damage.... well , give the brain time and it can do remarkable things.

Just one day at a time adds up!!

Key Tones Thu, Nov-14-19 17:21

Wow, that was quite an ordeal, and two babies, I can't imagine! I'm not surprised about the two years, seriously.

I totally noticed the brain recovery issue too on top of the physical.

Baby steps.

Ms Arielle Thu, Nov-14-19 20:40

Baby steps..... start from where ever you are.... a little exercise is just the beginning..... and leads to progress.

Key Tones Wed, Nov-27-19 14:42

One of the Greats of fitness, Dr. Doug McGruff of Body by Science, gives the ultimate endorsement for Dr. Naiman. Worth watching!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oMmeZnk7Oa8&t=336s

Key Tones Wed, Feb-26-20 13:19

Another great Dr. Ted Naiman interview on Diet Doctor (Podcast #40)

I always learn something new because he does not give the same talk everywhere he goes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMI0D_lixvU

Merpig Wed, Feb-26-20 15:12

I just learned about Dr. Naiman over on the Keto thread, but enjoyed reading his recent interview at DietDoctor. I was excited too when I read here that he has a book so decided it was one I needed to add to my library.

But when I went to Amazon I was so sad to see it's only available as a Kindle version. Don't get me wrong though. I do have a Kindle and I adore it and use it all the time as I'm trying to cut back on dead tree books for both space and ecological issues.

However I really only use my Kindle for reading novels. Books where you start and the beginning and then just go straight through to the end. For reference books, like this sort, I still prefer a hardcopy where you can go back and forth to review things, skip sections of possibly less interest, etc. I've bought a few Kindle reference books (Dr. Fung's Obesity Code for example) but only in addition to the hardcopy one, so that I might always have it to refer to if away from home. But sadly it doesn't seem to be an option with this book to get hardcopy.

Key Tones Wed, Feb-26-20 16:42

Yes, he is endless responding to people that want a hard copy. It is a 300+ book of mostly color photos, since he communicates through memes. It is too expensive to print.

I bought mine through thePEdiet.com as a pdf on Gumroad. It saves your book there, which you can retrieve via your email link if you ever lose it. The app lets you bookmark pages.

It worked great on my iPhone 6 Plus phone, but my newer phone isn’t quite as great on reading the format.

You can see much of the book on his Instagram page.

BawdyWench Thu, Feb-27-20 07:20

His message really resonates for me. I've always felt (since reading Protein Power in the late 1990s) that we should be eating a whole lot more meat and animal products than we do.

Does anyone have trouble getting in all that protein, though? According to the calculations on his website, I should be getting at least 150 grams of protein daily. How can you eat that much? I know he shows pictures of meals, but with protein being so satiating, that's a whole lotta meat!

A friend of mine who has followed his protocol says that there should be a 2:1 ratio of protein grams to fat grams + carb grams. I couldn't find that on the website, but maybe I missed it.

So, check my math here. If I get 150 grams of protein, that means I can have 75 grams of carbs +fat. If he recommends 20 grams of carbs, that leaves 55 grams of fat, which is not very much at all. And not very many calories. By my count, that would add up to less than 1200 calories per day.

According to my FitDay, 8 oz of beef tenderloin has 44 grams of protein so I would need to eat more than 1 1/2 pounds to reach 150. Or, 6 oz of chicken breast has 48 grams, so 18 oz of chicken per day. And then what about fat? That 8 oz of beef tenderloin at 44 grams of protein also has 40 grams of fat. That's definitely not a 2:1 ratio.

Am I over-thinking this? Am I missing something huge and obvious to everyone else? (If so, it wouldn't be the first time!).

Thoughts?

Key Tones Thu, Feb-27-20 12:45

Yes, Dr. Naiman is pretty awesome!

He doesn't recommend calculating macros and calories. The idea is to get in your protein then use the fat and carbs as a lever.

1:1 is protein to fat plus carbs, and I understand this is more like a maintenance situation diet. I don't see carbs in the equation you have there. Generally, up to 100 carbs is acceptable, eaten as one meal in the evening, and going over this would involve active athletic types or at least committing to burning them off in exercise.

The floor on fat is something around 30 grams to keep from screwing up your hormones.

I don't calculate anything, and you don't need to. Focus your meals on protein and if you want to lose weight you need to work in more lean proteins. Steak and eggs are perfect maintenance foods. Working in lean chicken (I hate chicken breast, so I don't do this), lean seafood and shellfish is good. If you like yogurt and cottage cheese - super easy to eat a lot of this to get your protein up (0% unsweetened greek yogurt for example).


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