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JEY100 Sun, Oct-17-21 12:20

If you want to start with the app now, you could purchase the Unlimited challenges, and ask Marty to email you the app link. No need to use the FB group page…that is for community support if you want it. Then when the group moves to the non-FB network, (planned for early 2022, Rob). you could decide if that platform would work for you.

Also in the planning stage… at the moment, the DDF program only contains the spreadsheet. Marty will be setting the app up in the new year with a self-guided program that doesn't require the challenge for support. the DDF program is ideal for people who aren't on FB.

cotonpal Mon, Oct-18-21 16:46

Just want to report that I am having great success with DDF. Using my blood glucose level to determine when to eat is really working. I have lost a few pounds but that's not really my focus although I started out with a goal of losing 5 pounds. I want to stabilize my blood sugar and develop a reliable hunger gauge and that is happening. I've done this while increasing my carbs slightly and decreasing the amount of fat I eat.I was already eating a lot of protein (learned that in the Masterclass). It seems to be working. I am beginning to be able to detect true hunger as determined by blood sugar level. You can teach an old dog new tricks.

WereBear Tue, Oct-19-21 05:32

Quote:
Originally Posted by cotonpal
It seems to be working. I am beginning to be able to detect true hunger as determined by blood sugar level. You can teach an old dog new tricks.


That is so exciting! I love it when there's always more to learn :lol:

Nancy LC Tue, Oct-19-21 12:36

I was doing really great until I got a bit crazy eating peanuts. Had a small binge. Now I feel like I'm starting over again. Also, I injured my hand and wrist and I'm taking NSAIDs and have to eat at times I'd rather fast so I can take my pain pills. So the last week I haven't made much progress on the scale. But my waking glucose for the last several days has been under 100! That is progress!

JEY100 Thu, Oct-21-21 08:20

Announcement on the October Challenge FB page, for those who do not like or use Facebook!

From Alex:
Quote:
Unlimited Challenges and Access to the app?

We got you covered: https://www.datadrivenfasting.com/ddf-unlimited
Exciting bonus: we are starting a new and exciting journey in 2022 and all unlimited members will be a part of it. Hint: less distractions, more focus on your goals and our community.


$74 for …ever.

GRB5111 Thu, Oct-21-21 09:12

Quote:
Originally Posted by JEY100
Announcement on the October Challenge FB page, for those who do not like or use Facebook!

From Alex:
Quote:
Unlimited Challenges and Access to the app?

We got you covered: https://www.datadrivenfasting.com/ddf-unlimited
Exciting bonus: we are starting a new and exciting journey in 2022 and all unlimited members will be a part of it. Hint: less distractions, more focus on your goals and our community.


$74 for …ever.

Good news. Thanks.

JEY100 Fri, Oct-22-21 08:08

Nancy, congrats on the waking BG! Mine is stuck right around 100, 2 over, 2 under…the extra digit drives me crazy.

Did you take your BG after the peanut binge? It may be a food that could work for you. It's more fat than protein, I have to be careful of the amount of any nut, but this is a good time to check some of those previously forbidden foods. All of Part 5 in the manual on What to Eat has tips.

[QUOTE] WHAT to eat [FAQ Part 5]
Data-Driven Fasting helps you solve the WHEN to eat side of the nutrition equation. You can make a lot of progress just by waiting until your blood glucose fuel gauge indicates you need to refuel. To minimise ‘overwhelm’, we recommend you focus on chasing your trigger in Hunger Training until you feel you have mastered the process.
But eventually, WHAT you are eating becomes the limiting factor, and it can be helpful to understand how the food you eat affects your blood sugars and how to dial in your food choices to ensure you are giving your body what it needs to maximise satiety, tame the blood sugar rollercoaster and deplete the fuel in your system, so you are ready to eat again sooner.

Iceberg Fri, Oct-22-21 11:07

Ohhhh, so close to onederland!!!!

.4 to go!

Here's hoping in the next couple days I drop below 200...loss so far is 37.1 lbs. Not seen below 200 since July 2019.

JEY100 Fri, Oct-22-21 13:01

Ohhh…I’ve got my Pom-poms ready for Onederland! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

The moderator Dorrie, who lives in India, slipped into a 25 BMI this morning…her Fitbit calls that Ideal, not just plain Healthy. Her Fitbit history went back to 2015! It really is amazing that members not only break through long standing stalls but except for little breaks in between, keep going.
You will be there soon!

Iceberg Fri, Oct-29-21 11:14

Finally, ONEDERLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!

Had the same weight for a week and finally, below 200!

199.2

JEY100 Fri, Oct-29-21 11:51

:cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :clap: :clap: :clap: :Party: :Party: :Party:

That is such exciting news! A milestone not seen in over two years.
Congratulations!
Please share in the FB group. :wave:

WereBear Sat, Oct-30-21 03:17

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceberg
Finally, ONEDERLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!

Had the same weight for a week and finally, below 200!

199.2


Awesome!

:cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

Jandy01 Sat, Oct-30-21 04:08

How would you follow this program if you work a job that doesn't have flexible eating hours?

JEY100 Sat, Oct-30-21 04:13

What do you do now for lunch, assuming you work days?

One option is to make the meal you eat at work your "main meal". Fixed time, do not need to test BG. Testing BG only before "discretionary" meals. The last two weeks of a four week challenge, members are given various options to consider and test what works for them. If your waking fasting BG is high, then skip breakfast, eat your lunch without testing BG. If you eat a big breakfast and lunch at work, you may try skipping dinner. Many options are presented and you decide what works for you based on your BG.

GRB5111 Sat, Oct-30-21 08:12

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceberg
Finally, ONEDERLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!

Had the same weight for a week and finally, below 200!

199.2

:thup: :thup: :thup:

Great news!

JEY100 Sun, Oct-31-21 10:34

In yesterday's DDF Live video Q & A, Alex announced there that all challenges, Masterclass, recipes, cookbooks, as of 1/2022, will be on Mighty Networks. The public group will remain on Facebook for marketing to new users, but there will be a new platform for the entire community linked together. This is the same network Robb Wolf uses for his community, so many advantages to leave the FB distractions. If you are signed up for the next challenge or first Macro Masterclass, it should be a smooth transition.

GRB5111 Sun, Oct-31-21 10:58

Good news.

JEY100 Sun, Nov-14-21 04:32

Nancy joined the October Challenge and posted her great results on the General Low Carb sub-forum. Although the DDF techniques work with any diet, many of the members do eat low carb, so good to share results there. :wave:

Link to this new thread on Challenge results: https://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=485070

I lost another 3 pounds, now a total of 75 pounds since starting LC in 2010, 38 pounds with DDF and Nutrient Optimisation. Success story has details.

The last challenge for 2020 starts Nov 20th, and Baselining for US members will be extended through the Thanksgiving holidays if you wish. ;)

thud123 Sun, Nov-14-21 13:11

WTG Nancy and Jey100! I'm joining Nov!

JEY100 Tue, Nov-16-21 03:26

Good news Thud! How was the last challenge? The details of the optional Thanksgiving hack are:

" **The ultimate Thanksgiving recovery hack**
For those of you in the US, we were thinking that DDF would be a cool way to help you negotiate Thanksgiving celebrations.
1. Enjoy Thanksgiving.
1. Continue baselining through Thanksgiving (you will learn a LOT).
1. Delay starting hunger training until after the partying has finished (and the leftovers are gone from the fridge).
1. Enjoy the quick guided recovery back to normal blood sugars and weight, ready to look trim and svelte for Xmas."

thud123 Tue, Nov-16-21 11:56

This hack looks good. Last challenge I didn't even log into the FB feed. October was not the greatest for me I. It's supprising tho with all the carbs I was consuming my general BG was still not skyrocket high. However, my morning readings were always too high for my liking (over 100mg/dL)

November is going good. I've reset my baseline Nov 1 and am currently working it down. Morning BG, and LB trending DOWN, Attitude trending UP :)

JEY100 Thu, Nov-18-21 07:24

I love finding new podcasts, and enjoyed this new to me one about DDF and NO with Paul Burgess from the UK. Paul completed a DDF so was talking from experience.
Then when I checked earlier shows, there are five episodes going back a few years! The recent episode is #176, covers satiety, fasting, many topics good to review.

Quote:
It was super fun to chat to my good friend and mentor again, this time about his experience with Data Driven Fasting.
https://podcasts.apple.com/.../the.../id930619627...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nevO0eXQ4L0

JEY100 Tue, Nov-30-21 04:44

Holy Cow, a Cyber Monday deal for UNLIMITED DDF for only $59. And today, there will be a deal for the UMLIMITED DD Macros and Micros Masterclasses.

https://www.datadrivenfasting.com/ddf-unlimited



Since yesterday, the moderators have been testing Mighty Networks, the new community for all these class platforms starting with the Jan 8 Macro class.
Color me confused…I don’t even understand half the features, but then I ignore most of what is on Facebook too. But it does have Topics, which will function more like sub-forums, and threads.

GRB5111 Tue, Nov-30-21 10:14

Quote:
Originally Posted by JEY100
Holy Cow, a Cyber Monday deal for UNLIMITED DDF for only $59. And today, there will be a deal for the UMLIMITED DD Macros and Micros Masterclasses.

https://www.datadrivenfasting.com/ddf-unlimited



Since yesterday, the moderators have been testing Mighty Networks, the new community for all these class platforms starting with the Jan 8 Macro class.
Color me confused…I don’t even understand half the features, but then I ignore most of what is on Facebook too. But it does have Topics, which will function more like sub-forums, and threads.

That's a great deal. I'm an unlimited member and looking forward to DDF in 2022. I sincerely hope the new platform provides an entry way for new people to experience and share DDF that FB could not, and that it becomes user friendly. In many cases, these improvements take some time, so patience is the keyword in this case. As mentioned many times before, I believe DDF combined with Naiman's P:E approach is a great combination. Understanding one's reaction to food and eating times is a very powerful and simple way to keep blood sugar low and to control insulin release. It allows people to become insulin sensitive based on their unique metabolic responses. Good stuff.

JEY100 Tue, Nov-30-21 14:54

Even better Cyber deal….. The Unlimited DDF Micro and Macro classes. Each is now 4 weeks long, 10!! of those each year…forever! This is more information than the previous program and for much less cost. $97, reduced from $197.

https://app.optimisingnutrition.com...iscount38q89ozn

JEY100 Mon, Dec-06-21 18:22

Iceberg, are you in this challenge? Nancy started a new thread in General low carb, https://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=485070

Iceberg Mon, Dec-06-21 21:12

Jey100, Yes I'm in this challenge but not losing this time...lol.

I've been stuck at 198 for several weeks now...maddening... :(

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JEY100 Thu, Dec-16-21 06:07

Marty has updated the Nutrient Optimizer FAQs to reflect all the changes…breaking it into two four week classes, moving to a private social group. If you have any interest in learning how Optimal Nutrition improves weight loss on low carb, this new series of FAQs will answer it. The first three parts are now available on his public website/blog: https://optimisingnutrition.com/blog/

How the Macros class could help various types of dieters overcome their stall. For low carb/keto:

Quote:
Failed keto dieter

Low carb can help improve satiety with less carbs and more protein, but high fat can lead to low satiety and a poor nutrient density.

Ensure you are getting adequate protein and not overconsuming fat. If you want, you can also use your blood glucose levels to understand whether you need to be concerned about carbs or should simply focus on chasing the nutrients your body requires from food.


https://optimisingnutrition.com/faq...ass/#more-25688

JEY100 Sat, Jan-01-22 05:04

Marty Kendall has now posted all the sections of the new MacroNutrient class frequently asked questions, FAQs, for free on his website. https://optimisingnutrition.com/mac...ass/#more-25827


The entire PDF of the 107 page manual is available on his free social network group. An amazing resource! Read one section on BG and Macros or work through it all in order. So much useful information to help you reach your optimal health goals and body weight. Link to this new group below or you may have to copy and paste:

members.optimisingnutrition.com/share/R6wnX3JkoP5BS5hI

JEY100 Wed, Jan-05-22 04:05

More about the free social network community:

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We’ve heard from many people who wanted to join our programs but don’t want to be on Facebook. With more than 1500 people in some of our challenges in 2021, we’re outgrowing Facebook.
So we set up our free private community that’s much better suited to running large courses like ours.
We’re excited that it will allow people to focus on getting great nutritional inspiration and community support without the attention-grabbing distractions of social media.

We'll be consolidating all our paid 2022 courses in the new platform, including:

- Data-Driven Fasting. (first one starts Jan 22)
- Macros Masterclass (first one starts Jan 8)
- Micros Masterclass

Here's what you get for free when you join:

- Data Driven Fasting 101 Course. (160 page book included!)
- The Healthiest Meal Plan In The World
- 7 Day Nutrient Clarity Challenge (Get clarity on what nutrients your body truly needs)
- Nutribooster Food Lists (69 of them), and
- A super supportive community of Optimisers

Join for free at: https://members.optimisingnutrition...m_source=manual


There is a jam-packed calendar of 17 programs in 2022!


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