bariatric surgery mimicking hormone injection
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releas...90806101531.htm
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So bariatric surgery, a very low calorie diet, and their shiny new hormone injections are the ONLY choices to lose weight and lower blood sugar? Which to choose, which to choose, which to choose.... such a difficult decision...:daze: Oh I know, I'll just stick to LC! No surgery, no injections, and no constant hunger or feeling like I'm going to pass out from starving myself on very low calories! And no side effects, other than increased energy, thinking more clearly, and decidedly decreased hunger! |
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Calianna, you said it sooooo well! |
Interesting study.
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Certainly GOP infusion would have fewer side effects than bariatric surgery. Bariatric surgery is a brute-force approach that causes trauma to the body and metabolism, and the reasonable assumption that the high rate of GOP in those patients after surgery is a response to the trauma. So, my question: why infuse patients with something that is a response to trauma when better results were achieved in the trial for those on a "low calorie" protocol? I'm not going to quibble over what constitutes "low calorie," and I don't believe that cutting calories is the only answer to weight loss; however, the results prove that simple lifestyle changes enabling patients to avoid the trauma of surgery or even avoid "trauma mimicking" infusions without surgery is the preferable solution that isn't being recognized here. People are always looking for the "easy button" enabling a continued pursuit of the very lifestyle habits that got them into health trouble in the first place. While this study is informative, the article ignores the group with the most important outcome. Final thought: I see a time when we look back at bariatric surgery with horror when it's considered to be in the same category as shock treatment, lobotomies, and leeches. We can certainly do better than this with our fellow humans. |
Weight loss wasn't much more than those given saline solution as placebo. They don't say what the blood glucose effects were for the saline solution, but it sounds like maybe those were the more significant effects.
I wonder about the glucose monitoring device. Hopefully it just tracked their glucose, and gave the patients no information on their own glucose levels. That might have an effect on what people eat. Also knowing that you're in a study with weight loss as a desired outcome can have an effect. What the patients knew or didn't really matters, here. The article linked to the wrong study, and searching the author's name, it looks like the actual study's not on pubmed yet. |
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We haven't given up on leeches just yet... https://www.popsci.com/medicine-leeches-blood-surgery/ I do agree with your point, though. George Washington might still be alive today were it not for the blood letting to drain our founding father of 'bad blood'. |
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Add statins to the list. Once the full picture becomes clear, I think it might rival the attempted genocides of the 20th Century. |
Bariatric surgery has been a bête noire of mine from the beginning. You’ve got better odds of survival being a POW. (There is no Geneva Convention for experimental surgery.)
Yes, people who had chunks of their digestive system taken out for unhealing ulcers, cancer, or injury lost a lot of weight in the aftermath. YA THINK? Part of it is healing and part of it is that the whole system is stunned like the victim of a car crash. But the body struggles to survive. And the appetite (the villain of the piece) returns. Then they get to feed convalescent hunger with a stomach the size of a golf ball. There’s circles of hell I’d rather visit than that. One of my recent health issues resulted in me researching those drugs which switch off auto-immune. Sometimes it’s the only choice to save your life. But, like bariatric surgery, it’s a devil’s bargain and you never know when he will show up. |
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I wondered whether some astute person would point out that leeches are used today, albeit differently than back when bad blood was thought to be the root cause of all maladies. Good clarification! |
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From the ways carefully selected herbs keep the humans and cats doing well in our house, these scorned plants might be making a comeback. There are studies throughout Europe showing that herbs can be more effective, and have fewer side effects, for many purposes. This is an important way they can keep their national health costs down. I think herbs also contain little-known micronutrients that help us stay healthy. They are certainly now my favorite form of greens. |
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