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Max
Fri, Oct-25-02, 21:00
As a novice can i ask what are the benefits of inclined
treadmill walking? tia.

Wayne S. H
Fri, Oct-25-02, 21:01
Max wrote:

> As a novice can i ask what are the benefits of inclined
> treadmill walking? tia.

It gets the ticker running and burns calories. If your goals
include fat loss, this is all well and good, but don't overdo
it. In a fat loss program, you're better off moderating the
treadmill work and picking up heavy things to avoid loss
of muscle mass.

-Wayne

Gps
Fri, Oct-25-02, 21:01
Max wrote:
>
> As a novice can i ask what are the benefits of inclined
> treadmill walking? tia.

As a novice you might want to avoid posting to so many
different newsgroups and focus on one that meets your needs.
Walking generally builds endurance and cv fitness, btw.
ps

Brandon Be
Fri, Oct-25-02, 23:59
"Max" <Max@virginnet.com> wrote in message
news:apccoo$28c$1@venus.btinternet.com...
> As a novice can i ask what are the benefits of inclined
> treadmill walking?

Questions from novices are strongly discouraged. As a general
rule of thumb, if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't.

Skunkhaus
Sat, Oct-26-02, 06:58
"Max" <Max@virginnet.com> wrote in message
news:<apccoo$28c$1@venus.btinternet.com>...
> As a novice can i ask what are the benefits of inclined
> treadmill walking? tia.

As opposed to walking outdoors? Well, you can watch TV while
you're doing it, for one.

hth.

Max
Sat, Oct-26-02, 06:58
"gps" <gstyles@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:3DB9BEAC.1EC0D320@ix.netcom.com...
> Max wrote:
> >
> > As a novice can i ask what are the benefits of inclined
> > treadmill
walking?
> > tia.
>
> As a novice you might want to avoid posting to so many
> different newsgroups and focus on one that meets your needs.
> Walking generally builds endurance and cv fitness, btw.
> ps
Thank you for your reply. Just trying to cast my net
wide and get a range of opinion. Thats all.

Navychiefc
Sat, Oct-26-02, 13:59
>admill walking From: "Max" Max@virginnet.com Date: 10/25/2002
>4:23 PM Central Daylight Time Message-id:
><apccoo$28c$1@venus.btinternet.com>
>
>As a novice can i ask what are the benefits of inclined
>treadmill walking? tia.
>
After many years of running and a lower back injury, mu
running days are pretty much over. I have found that I can
still get a pretty healthy cardio workout with walking at a
brisk pace on the treadmill, then increasing the incline - no
impact.... Chief

Ozzie Gont
Sat, Oct-26-02, 13:59
[[ This message was both posted and mailed: see the "To,"
"Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]

In article <apccoo$28c$1@venus.btinternet.com>, Max
<Max@virginnet.com> wrote:

> .

A treadmill stress test starts out with the individual walking
on a treadmill at an easy walking pace. They may then increase
the speed so the person's heart is getting a workout. Every
few minutes they will increase the incline angle so that the
individual is doing more work, similar to walking up a gradual
inclined hill-lifting the body so many foot pounds while
walking at the given pace of the treadmill.

For some people, the test is cut short because of what the EKG
shows happening to the heart that is abnormal or shows signs
of somekind of heart problem.

Some people stop because the speed plus the incline has caused
problems to the calves or shins.

Some people stop because they've never been taken to their
aerobic threshold and fear of what is identified as pain
panics the brain.

Some people's walking form goes downhill as they do the uphill
inclined treadmill. Their overstride stops them as you can
hear the treadmill labor as their impact and deceleration of
the overstriding foot slows the treadmill. As the incline
increases, their larger step is compensated by leaning forward
from the waist which put their center of gravity forward more
but increases the use of muscles to maintain that forward lean
of the upper torso. They tire quickly and stop. Gasping and in
pain, they know they could go no further, even with all the
cheering and cajoling that was being offered by those around.

Benefits:

1. If the treadmill is at home, you can do it anytime you
want regardless of the weather
2. You can go the speed that's comfortable for you and
gradually increase your speed, and relatively know how
fast you're going.
3. You know how far you've gone based on the treadmills
electronic results.
4. You can work on good form and style if you have a sense of
what good form and style of running or walking are.
5. When you stop, you're always at the same location.
6. You have supported the economy by your purchase of a
treadmill or by the monthly dues of your sports or
health club.
7. You've become aware of the similarity between the
stairmaster and the treadmill. It's all about lifting the
body weight vertically.
8. If you've practiced lifting your body vertically on the
treadmill in good form and style, you find that hills and
steps anywherre are your friend and you are more
appreciative.
9. You soon find that the generalization started by your
inclined treadmill walking is working and you enjoy more
and more walking your neighborhood or around your health
club or in the location of where you work.
10. You now have a sense of your walking/running speed and
level of difficulty in running inclines.
11. You've thought about the walking and have improved your
breathing patterns to support the increased effort of the
inclined treadmill.
12. When you're on the treadmill, you realize over time that
you can maintain your speed and incline several times
longer than when you started as a novice.
13. Finally you realize you're using your treadmill less and
less as you take to the outdoors no matter the weather
because you've learned to dress accordingly.
14. You now find yourself walking and running out the door
and seldom use the treadmill, or use it to work on your
form and style or when work or the family schedules
conflict with your routine.
15. You contribute to all the newsgroups you posted to as a
way of giving back to the cyber communities of walking
and running.
16. You sell your treadmill realizing that you're no longer
a novice and can create a workout anywhere, anytime and
in any condition without having to pay anything for
electricity or membership or special gear.
17. You post to the various newsgroups another question as
you begin to stretch mind/body/spirit in different ways:
As a novice can i ask what are the benefits of yoga or
tai chi? tia
18. You think to yourself: If self-help books really worked,
they'd be less and less of them.
19. You finish reading this far and realize you're not going
to do anything about it anyway, and continue the life
you've been living.
20. You look up the word "treadmill" and find: A monotonous
task or routine. You begin to think, reflect, and
meditate on what is a life worth living. You realize
that a novice is a beginner and also someone who may
come to their novitiate with fresh eyes. With those
fresh eyes one sees the world differently. With the
novice metaphor in mind, you're reminded of a quote by
Goethe that you once read in a response to a post you
made about benefits of incline treadmilling: Life is the
childhood of our immortality. You are aware of what it
means to be childlike as you approach your 90th year.
21. You leave your assisted living facility to teach a group
of first graders about life by taking them on a nature
walk through the local outback or canyons or parks in
your area.
22. That evening on a newsgroup, someone asks about the
benefits of walking on an inclined treadmill. You smile
to yourself and begin typing: Benefits: 1. If a
treadmill is at home, you can do it...

In health and on the run, Ozzie Gontang Maintainer -
rec.running FAQ Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic, est. 1975

Mindful Running: http://www.mindfulness.com/mr.asp
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/running-faq/

Speacock
Sat, Oct-26-02, 13:59
So glad to see you are now responding here, also, Ozzie. %^)

Ozzie Gontang wrote:> .

>
> A treadmill stress test starts out with the individual
> walking on a treadmill at an easy walking pace. They may
> then increase the speed so the person's heart is getting a
> workout. Every few minutes they will increase the incline
> angle so that the individual is doing more work,

*snips from here on.*

I'd add (23) that you can communicate with the cute looking
thing on the treadmill next to you.

Alex
Sat, Oct-26-02, 13:59
--On Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:16 AM -0700 Ozzie Gontang
<gontang@electriciti.com> wrote:

> [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see the "To,"
> "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]
>
> In article <apccoo$28c$1@venus.btinternet.com>, Max
> <Max@virginnet.com> wrote:
>
>> .
>
> A treadmill stress test starts out with the individual
> walking on a treadmill at an easy walking pace. They may
> then increase the speed so the person's heart is getting a
> workout. Every few minutes they will increase the incline
> angle so that the individual is doing more work, similar to
> walking up a gradual inclined hill-lifting the body so many
> foot pounds while walking at the given pace of the
> treadmill.
>
> For some people, the test is cut short because of what the
> EKG shows happening to the heart that is abnormal or shows
> signs of somekind of heart problem.
>
> Some people stop because the speed plus the incline has
> caused problems to the calves or shins.
>
> Some people stop because they've never been taken to their
> aerobic threshold and fear of what is identified as pain
> panics the brain.
>
> Some people's walking form goes downhill as they do the
> uphill inclined treadmill. Their overstride stops them as
> you can hear the treadmill labor as their impact and
> deceleration of the overstriding foot slows the treadmill.
> As the incline increases, their larger step is compensated
> by leaning forward from the waist which put their center of
> gravity forward more but increases the use of muscles to
> maintain that forward lean of the upper torso. They tire
> quickly and stop. Gasping and in pain, they know they could
> go no further, even with all the cheering and cajoling that
> was being offered by those around.
>
> Benefits:
>
> 1. If the treadmill is at home, you can do it anytime you
> want regardless of the weather
> 2. You can go the speed that's comfortable for you and
> gradually increase your speed, and relatively know how
> fast you're going.
> 3. You know how far you've gone based on the treadmills
> electronic results.
> 4. You can work on good form and style if you have a sense
> of what good form and style of running or walking are.
> 5. When you stop, you're always at the same location.
> 6. You have supported the economy by your purchase of a
> treadmill or by the monthly dues of your sports or
> health club.
> 7. You've become aware of the similarity between the
> stairmaster and the treadmill. It's all about lifting
> the body weight vertically.
> 8. If you've practiced lifting your body vertically on the
> treadmill in good form and style, you find that hills
> and steps anywherre are your friend and you are more
> appreciative.
> 9. You soon find that the generalization started by your
> inclined treadmill walking is working and you enjoy more
> and more walking your neighborhood or around your health
> club or in the location of where you work.
> 10. You now have a sense of your walking/running speed and
> level of difficulty in running inclines.
> 11. You've thought about the walking and have improved your
> breathing patterns to support the increased effort of
> the inclined treadmill.
> 12. When you're on the treadmill, you realize over time
> that you can maintain your speed and incline several
> times longer than when you started as a novice.
> 13. Finally you realize you're using your treadmill less
> and less as you take to the outdoors no matter the
> weather because you've learned to dress accordingly.
> 14. You now find yourself walking and running out the door
> and seldom use the treadmill, or use it to work on
> your form and style or when work or the family
> schedules conflict with your routine.
> 15. You contribute to all the newsgroups you posted to as
> a way of giving back to the cyber communities of
> walking and running.
> 16. You sell your treadmill realizing that you're no
> longer a novice and can create a workout anywhere,
> anytime and in any condition without having to pay
> anything for electricity or membership or special
> gear.
> 17. You post to the various newsgroups another question as
> you begin to stretch mind/body/spirit in different
> ways: As a novice can i ask what are the benefits of
> yoga or tai chi? tia
> 18. You think to yourself: If self-help books really
> worked, they'd be less and less of them.
> 19. You finish reading this far and realize you're not
> going to do anything about it anyway, and continue the
> life you've been living.
> 20. You look up the word "treadmill" and find: A
> monotonous task or routine. You begin to think,
> reflect, and meditate on what is a life worth living.
> You realize that a novice is a beginner and also
> someone who may come to their novitiate with fresh
> eyes. With those fresh eyes one sees the world
> differently. With the novice metaphor in mind, you're
> reminded of a quote by Goethe that you once read in a
> response to a post you made about benefits of incline
> treadmilling: Life is the childhood of our
> immortality. You are aware of what it means to be
> childlike as you approach your 90th year.
> 21. You leave your assisted living facility to teach a
> group of first graders about life by taking them on a
> nature walk through the local outback or canyons or
> parks in your area.
> 22. That evening on a newsgroup, someone asks about the
> benefits of walking on an inclined treadmill. You
> smile to yourself and begin typing: Benefits: 1. If a
> treadmill is at home, you can do it...
>
> In health and on the run, Ozzie Gontang Maintainer -
> rec.running FAQ Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic,
> est. 1975
>
> Mindful Running: http://www.mindfulness.com/mr.asp
> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/running-faq/

What about hiking up from the bottom of the grand cayon to the
rim (10 miles and 8000 feet in elevation) with 50 pounds on
yer back. 90 degress at the bottom, and snowing at the top.
that will give ya some zen.

Elzinator
Sun, Oct-27-02, 06:57
Alex <agf.NOSPAM@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:<984680.1035641713@gruel-2-176.ppp.andrew.cmu.edu>...
> --On Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:16 AM -0700 Ozzie Gontang
> <gontang@electriciti.com> wrote:
>
> What about hiking up from the bottom of the grand cayon to
> the rim (10 miles and 8000 feet in elevation) with 50 pounds
> on yer back. 90 degress at the bottom, and snowing at the
> top. that will give ya some zen.

Yup, been there, done that. Upon seening the snow at the top,
I wanted to turn around and go back down to stay. BTW, got
more sore from walking down than up. Nice eccentric work.

J . Thiess
Sun, Oct-27-02, 14:00
Elzinator wrote:
> Alex <agf.NOSPAM@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
> news:<984680.1035641713@gruel-2-176.ppp.andrew.cmu.edu>...
>> --On Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:16 AM -0700 Ozzie Gontang
>> <gontang@electriciti.com> wrote:
>>
>> What about hiking up from the bottom of the grand cayon to
>> the rim (10 miles and 8000 feet in elevation) with 50
>> pounds on yer back. 90 degress at the bottom, and snowing
>> at the top. that will give ya some zen.
>
> Yup, been there, done that. Upon seening the snow at the
> top, I wanted to turn around and go back down to stay.
> BTW, got more sore from walking down than up. Nice
> eccentric work.

A couple of years ago we visited it in March. Not having time
to do the whole trek, we just went down something like a 3rd
of the way, then back up. It varied from bits of frozen slush
to mud, to dry dirt/rock. Quite a few tourists, including
people letting their preschool-age kids hang halfway over the
edges of 500 foot dropoffs. There were lots of gorgeous
views, but I wouldn't want to deal with it in the crush of
summer tourism.

And yup, the walk down was a lot rougher than the walk up.

J.

Roblin/Fin
Tue, Oct-29-02, 23:59
you can walk slower and get a better cardio workout as the
incline makes you work harder than if it's flat.
--

----------
In article <apccoo$28c$1@venus.btinternet.com>, "Max"
<Max@virginnet.com> wrote:

> As a novice can i ask what are the benefits of inclined
> treadmill walking? tia.

John
Mon, Nov-25-02, 14:02
"Roblin/Finlayson" <fraserdi@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:<sKHv9.5005$h_4.756486@news20.bellglobal.com>...
> you can walk slower and get a better cardio workout as the
> incline makes you work harder than if it's flat.
> --
>
>
> ----------
> In article <apccoo$28c$1@venus.btinternet.com>, "Max"
> <Max@virginnet.com> wrote:
>
>
> > As a novice can i ask what are the benefits of inclined
> > treadmill walking? tia.
> >
> >

Generally as the other person answered it is a way to increase
the workload without going faster. However, keep in mind that
walking at an incline all the time (especially if it is
greater then 10%) could have some negative effects on your
ankles and tendons. Best to alternate your routine. John
www.fitnessgiant.com

Tadams
Thu, Dec-05-02, 21:00
It has been my experience that one is always better off to
increase the speed on a treadmill as opposed to inclining the
grade to increase intensity. I had several cases of the shin
splints before I realized that exercising on an inclined grade
actually forced the muscle attached to the shin bone to pull
away.... ouch! john@fitnessgiant.com (John) wrote in message
news:<1de82385.0211250525.7ee72181@posting.google.com>...
> "Roblin/Finlayson" <fraserdi@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:<sKHv9.5005$h_4.756486@news20.bellglobal.com>...
> > you can walk slower and get a better cardio workout as the
> > incline makes you work harder than if it's flat.
> > --
> >
> >
> > ----------
> > In article <apccoo$28c$1@venus.btinternet.com>, "Max"
> > <Max@virginnet.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > As a novice can i ask what are the benefits of inclined
> > > treadmill walking? tia.
> > >
> > >
>
> Generally as the other person answered it is a way to
> increase the workload without going faster. However, keep in
> mind that walking at an incline all the time (especially if
> it is greater then 10%) could have some negative effects on
> your ankles and tendons. Best to alternate your routine.
> John www.fitnessgiant.com

Steve McGa
Mon, Dec-30-02, 06:57
As long as your speaking about using a treadmill for cardio
fitness, I have found that walking in CardioStrides can help
amplify the benefits of physical activity,increased heart
rate,oxygen intake and metabolic rate.Burn as much as 300
calories in 30 minutes.

http://www.5pillars.com/cardiostrides/

David Cohe
Mon, Dec-30-02, 06:57
"Steve McGarrett"
<motherfuckingspammer@Isuckhorsedick.com> wrote
> As long as your speaking about using a treadmill for cardio
> fitness,
I
> have found that walking in CardioStrides can help amplify
> the stress
on the knees,
> resulting in permanent disability.
> http://www.motherfuckingspammer/kneekiller/

No need to thank me for the translation.

David

Speacock
Mon, Dec-30-02, 14:02
David Cohen wrote:

> "Steve McGarrett"
> <motherfuckingspammer@Isuckhorsedick.com> wrote
> > As long as your speaking about using a treadmill for
> > cardio fitness,
> I
> > have found that walking in CardioStrides can help amplify
> > the stress
> on the knees,
> > resulting in permanent disability.
> > http://www.motherfuckingspammer/kneekiller/
>
> No need to thank me for the translation.
>
> David

David, you are not saying that our good and trusted Steve
McGarrett is a complete and utter spammer?

Naaaaaa. Just a good hearted friendly used car and life
insurance door to door broom salesman type.

Lee Michae
Mon, Dec-30-02, 14:02
"SPeacock" <xpeacock@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:3E106F22.CDCF7F2D@pacbell.net...
>
>
> David Cohen wrote:
>
> > "Steve McGarrett"
> > <motherfuckingspammer@Isuckhorsedick.com> wrote
> > > As long as your speaking about using a treadmill for
> > > cardio fitness,
> > I
> > > have found that walking in CardioStrides can help
> > > amplify the stress
> > on the knees,
> > > resulting in permanent disability.
> > > http://www.motherfuckingspammer/kneekiller/
> >
> > No need to thank me for the translation.
> >
> > David
>
> David, you are not saying that our good and trusted Steve
> McGarrett is a complete and utter spammer?
>
> Naaaaaa. Just a good hearted friendly used car and life
> insurance door to door broom salesman type.
>
>
Ya mean he is not a shill for the bone docs??

Rita
Mon, Dec-30-02, 14:02
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:06:08 GMT, SPeacock
<xpeacock@pacbell.net> wrote:

>
>
>David Cohen wrote:
>
>> "Steve McGarrett"
>> <motherfuckingspammer@Isuckhorsedick.com> wrote
>> > As long as your speaking about using a treadmill for
>> > cardio fitness,
>> I
>> > have found that walking in CardioStrides can help amplify
>> > the stress
>> on the knees,
>> > resulting in permanent disability.
>> > http://www.motherfuckingspammer/kneekiller/
>>
>> No need to thank me for the translation.
>>
>> David
>
>David, you are not saying that our good and trusted Steve
>McGarrett is a complete and utter spammer?
>
>Naaaaaa. Just a good hearted friendly used car and life
>insurance door to door broom salesman type.

He is a dedicated spammer who posts numerous times to all
fitness groups and sends those who post to them Emails as well
promoting his product. Let's all report him to his ISP.

David Cohe
Mon, Dec-30-02, 14:02
"SPeacock" <xpeacock@pacbell.net> wrote
> David Cohen wrote:
> > "Steve McGarrett"
> > <motherfuckingspammer@Isuckhorsedick.com> wrote
> > > As long as your speaking about using a treadmill for
> > > cardio
fitness,
> > I
> > > have found that walking in CardioStrides can help
> > > amplify the
stress
> > on the knees,
> > > resulting in permanent disability.
> > > http://www.motherfuckingspammer/kneekiller/
> >
> > No need to thank me for the translation.
> >
> > David
>
> David, you are not saying that our good and trusted Steve
> McGarrett
is a
> complete and utter spammer?
>
> Naaaaaa. Just a good hearted friendly used car and life
> insurance
door
> to door broom salesman type.

Darn. I thought I was being subtle :)

He hasn't appeared much in misc.fitness.weights, but I take it
he is a regular spammer in the other groups. Hopefully, the
lawyer for somebody injured by his product will track his ass
down and make him poor, forever.

David

Rita
Mon, Dec-30-02, 14:02
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:09:06 GMT, Rita
<spamcatcher@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:06:08 GMT, SPeacock
><xpeacock@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>David Cohen wrote:
>>
>>> "Steve McGarrett"
>>> <motherfuckingspammer@Isuckhorsedick.com> wrote
>>> > As long as your speaking about using a treadmill for
>>> > cardio fitness,
>>> I
>>> > have found that walking in CardioStrides can help
>>> > amplify the stress
>>> on the knees,
>>> > resulting in permanent disability.
>>> > http://www.motherfuckingspammer/kneekiller/
>>>
>>> No need to thank me for the translation.
>>>
>>> David
>>
>>David, you are not saying that our good and trusted Steve
>>McGarrett is a complete and utter spammer?
>>
>>Naaaaaa. Just a good hearted friendly used car and life
>>insurance door to door broom salesman type.
>
>He is a dedicated spammer who posts numerous times to all
>fitness groups and sends those who post to them Emails as
>well promoting his product. Let's all report him to his ISP.

On second thought, report him to groups-abuse@google.com It
takes five complaints for Google to take action. Then they do.