https://www.telegraph.co.uk/busines...obox=1683130498

A far better choice as its real food. McD's is processed junk. ( Except a burger , no bun, worth eating.,)

Heck do a lovely 97% pork meat sausage - no fillers

We have access to artisan sausage, which is so much better than any of the commercial brands that used to be okay. My body can sense soy and rancid fats now, and I know that's why I can't eat them.

Good to know, I'll have to look out for them.

I had an interesting reminder of the power of the consumer yesterday, when I snagged the last bottle of real kefir from the back of the dairy case. They had put oat milk kefir in, and the only people who picked those did it by accident, I think. It was a mess of rejected "plant based stuff" by the time I got there.

I've noticed some groceries put vegan "meat" right next to ground bison, elk, etc., probably because the fake meat is equally expensive and some will buy it by accident. It certainly didn't sell next to ground beef costing half as much. I ate many vegetarian & vegan foods in the early 1990s, but I made everything from scratch, so it was cheaper than meat and fresher than processed food. But still caused autoimmune reactions, so I stopped.

Vegan meat is an oxymoron.

I have some vegan friends, who used the products as a transition food, but then decided, why are we eating meat substitutes when meat is what we are trying to avoid.

Fortunately these friends are not crusaders, and when we join them at a restaurant for dinner, we choose one that has dinners suitable for both vegans and omnivores.

They think they are doing vegan for health reasons. I am not going to preach to them any more than I'd like them to preach to me.

Besides, I'm a picky eater myself, it's just a different kind of picky eater than a vegan.

Bob

Where are vegans getting their protein from? Beans and rice, I suppose, but there's pitfalls there. I think of vegetable sources of protein as supplemental, at best. Turns out, the latest studies on bio-availability show that spinach doesn't have that much calcium, it's a decades-old lab error, and the anti-nutrients in this plant is high enough it's a net negative.

Traditional maize-growing societies prepared the cornmeal with ash, which unlocked the grain's niacin. Now, no one does that. We "fortified" it, so we don't have epidemics of pellagra. But how much of this crazy plant eating takes even these kinds of precautions? I see starfruit in my rural supermarket because it's trendy, but it also kills people in Asia. And they should know better!

I think we have lots of people who think food should be candy. And really, only candy should be candy. So you know it's dangerous.

Somewhere I have a link to a site that gives 7 essential nutrients that vegans can't get without supplements. But I have so many bookmarks I can't find it (I need to get them organized).

That's enough to say that veganism isn't natural or good for us.

https://www.healthline.com/nutritio...ents-for-vegans

Thanks, Mike!

SEVEN. That we know of. No wonder 99% of vegans tend to burn out after a few months. The fact that so many hang in there once the health problems start is twofold: the Vegan Honeymoon Effect, where they embark on essentially a controlled calorie fast.

The other is how veganism isn't a "choice" or a moral preference. They are trying to make all that plant-based stuff seem like a better ethical preference.

They lie about that constantly. The planet and our animals are not going to be served by vegans, who will pave the earth with soy and kill us all a lot faster.

Thanks, Mike.

Bookmarked (and hopefully able to find when I need it again).

Oh dear!


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/busines...ndancies-vegan/

In other words, it costs almost twice as much just to make meatless meat as they're able to bring in when they sell it.

That clearly is not a workable business plan. For the business to succeed, the numbers would need to be almost the exact opposite, bringing in almost twice what it costs to produce the product.

But that's going to be quite a hard sell if they need to nearly double the price of the meatless meat just in order to break even - forget about making much profit on it without raising the wholesale price so much that the stores end up tripling or quadrupling the retail price.

I just checked the prices of walmart 80% ground beef ($5.73/lb) vs impossible burger ground beef ($9.04/lb -but it's sold in a 12 oz package, so the individual package is priced at only about $1 more than you'd pay for 33% more real meat.)

Target is already charging nearly twice the price for fake meat - $5.29 for 8 oz of meatless burgers, $5.99 for 16 oz of 80% real ground beef.

The only people who are buying it at those prices are the ones who are guilted into it by their vegan ideology, and a desperate craving for something similar to real meat.