In my early DANDR book , the veggie list had check offs next to the veg I would eat. About 1/3- 1/2. I was a good eater....so I thought. Many years later I found that book again and checked off nearly EVERY veg listed. Living lc taught me to expand my veggie options.

As for eating enough..... net carbs or total carbs... it is whatever gets the job done. Dr A encouraged maximizing veg intake as long as you are dropping weight but understood many preffered Induction for a while longer.

Along the way we eventually determine our personal maximum carb levels.

olives allowed..like four.
berries allowed....those vary in carb counts. Frozen blackberries are nice to keep on hand.Easy to count out a few. And I like frozen cranberries... an aquired taste but important for gi health (Im high risk for colon cancer)

The berries with whipped HWC make a nice dessert.

As Bob said, its ok to fall short on some days.

The bottom line is ....is the food you are eating working for YOU?

Jey, thanks for chiming in. I am stuck - no weight fluctuation despite holding calories down and counting NET carbs - a la NANY.

So, I will now concentrate on TOTAL carbs. I was wondering what I could do to jump start the weight loss again. Thanks for the reminder.

Sometimes I think my fat cells get separation anxiety - I have had them so long.

Jessica, try total carbs and see what happens

At least you can branch out from broccoli

Was that pun intentional?

Broccoli is OK, but I'm not a big fan of it. I ate a lot at first because it was mentioned as a good LC food. But I really prefer cauliflower & other LC veggies. Life is too short (especially at my age!) to eat foods I don't care for.

Bonnie -the pun was intended for Jessica

Jey, in looking at the Diet Doctors meal plans, they say the plans contain less that 29 carb grams

I thought they would have offered meal plans at 20 grams or less

Preferably less if we are trying to stay under 20 gm carbs a day

Pesto is a great condiment... .6 grams per tablespoon..

rofl

I've been tryin one meal a day and a day of fasting to shake them up.

Time restricted eating can also break a log jam. Eat within 8 hours, for example, then no snacks or any food until "breakfast", what ever hour that is....

I like the Diet Doctor website - thanks Jey

On foundation vegetables - I like the way veggies have been divided - above ground (low carb) under ground (high carb)
Makes it easy for gardeners to remember.
Here is the list

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/vegetables

Since you mentioned making a soup from tomato sauce........have you tried drinking a glass or two of V8 juice? I used to drink it a lot in place of fruit juice and it has vegetables and tomatoes in a juice form. Here is the link to the nutritional information.

https://www.campbellsfoodservice.co...etable-juice-7/


9 grams of carbs per 8 oz.

What a great tip! 9 grams in only 8 ounces! I notice the ingredients for the V8 juice contains carrots. Is that a concern?

Thanks for all of the great suggestions everyone!!

a carb is a carb.

Dr Atkins mentions that too much tomato can stall some people.... enjoy the V8, just beware. V8 is delicious!

Not to derail anyone, but if you don't like vegetables, do you have to eat them?

I think there were concerns about nutrition and the unquestioned "veggies are good for you" but if it is putting boulders in your path, see what works for you.

For me, plants are salad greens, coconut, cucumbers, olives, and berries, with some tomato sauce or cabbage. My system doesn't tolerate much fiber.

For me, it's actually more which carbs than how many.

We all fine tune. That is the key to success.

For me it's seasonal. I adore salads and a variety of vegetables during spring and summer but can only eat salads occasionally during winter. Not only do salads taste weird to me during winter...kind of tinny...but they don't agree with my digestion either.

I can do cabbage and greens during winter though.

The Epi-Paleo diet is based on such seasonal availability. Now the holiday season is over, I plan to go as zero carb as possible, at least for long stretches. I've only been doing this plan for a year, so I'm continuing to figure things out.

Always a moving target, too