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Old Thu, Nov-17-16, 06:41
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And . . . there's The Hippocratic Oath. Talk about hypocrisy!
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Old Thu, Nov-17-16, 18:54
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I get the occasional email from the author of the Blue Zones study. Yesterday's email contained a paragraph or two about how misguided LCHF people are for rejecting grains, "the food of humans." Yeah. No.

Not until we'd done with evolving. I wanted to tear out my hair in frustration. Instead, I think I WILL go to the site, find that article, and ask a simple question: what are the data to back your assertions against LCHF?
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Old Thu, Nov-17-16, 20:26
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https://www.dietdoctor.com/stop-aph...-dr-gary-fettke

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Dr. Gary Fettke, an Australian surgeon, was recently gagged by Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency for giving advice to his patients to stop eating sugar because “his medical degree doesn’t qualify him to give dietary advice”.

If you think this is as unfair as we do, then sign this petition:
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Old Fri, Nov-18-16, 04:42
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Will sign that petition!

Dr. Malhotra mentions Dr Fettke and the vested interests in Australia on this BBC interview about his film
edit.. here's the BBC interview: https://www.facebook.com/TheFatEmpe...761823260748200

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Old Fri, Nov-18-16, 08:14
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Is there a petition preventing American dieticians from giving nutritional advice?? I mean, they've been giving out cr*p advice for such a long time, and now we have a diabetes epidemic.

A change must begin in medical school, where nutrition should be a significant course requirement and a research field, not an hour lecture (by a dietician?)

Meanwhile, the education and pressure for good food choices must continue. The main benefit of LCHF as a "movement" is the insistence on real food, and vastly reduced sugar consumption (including the starch component). Of course, as this way of eating sucks the life out of processed food manufacturing, nobody listens.

We do. Best wishes!
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Old Tue, Nov-29-16, 00:16
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/pe..._hp_ref=au-food

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We Should Be Encouraging Doctors To Give Nutritional Advice

More than 1 million Aussies have been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes.

The past few weeks have been interesting for medicine in Australia.

Monday 14 November was World Diabetes Day, which was marked by the release of a report from Diabetes Australia. The report stated that there are now over a million Australians diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. The total number of Australians with diabetes could be up to 1.7 million people, as the number of Australians currently with undiagnosed, "silent" Type 2 diabetes is unknown. [Edit by Roz: Note that Australia's population is barely 24 million.]

In addition, the number of people with pre-diabetes and at high risk of developing Type 2 diabetes is also unknown, but estimated to be around 2 million. Complications of diabetes are a major health issue with 4,400 amputations of toes, feet or limbs and 3,500 people with diabetes needing kidney dialysis in the past 12 months alone.

We saw the release of a report commissioned by the Medical Board which showed that doctors, along with nurses and pharmacists, are the most trusted professions in Australia. The report stated that 90 percent of the community trust doctors and nurses and 85 percent trust pharmacists (and 7 percent trust politicians!).

The third, related medical item of interest was the revelation that a Tasmanian orthopaedic surgeon has been banned by the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Authority (AHPRA) from giving nutrition advice to his patients. Dr Gary Fettke's concern about the increasing number of amputations that he was required to perform as a result of complications of diabetes led him to the realisation that by the time these patients saw him it was too late.

Dr Fettke has adopted a preventive approach by discussing in broad principles the health benefits of reducing sugar and processed foods with his patients to gain better control of their blood glucose levels. He cofounded Nutrition for Life in 2014 to provide a team of health professionals to counsel diabetic patients about lifestyle issues, in particular diet.

Viewers of Channel Seven's Sunday Night program will have seen a recent series where Dr Fettke and chef Pete Evans mentored a former Tasmanian cricketer Tony Benneworth, who had developed Type 2 diabetes, with a diet low in sugar and processed carbohydrates. The results were very impressive with dramatic loss of weight (15kg) and a total reversal of Tony's Type 2 diabetes, including coming off all diabetes medications under the supervision of his GP, and individualised nutrition support from the team at Nutrition for Life including Accredited Practising Dietitians and a diabetes educator.

According to Dr Fettke, his AHPRA experience began in 2014 with an anonymous notification by a hospital dietitian in regard to encouraging people to reduce their sugar intake. A further 2016 notification, again by an anonymous dietitian, included a complaint of "inappropriately reversing a patient's Type 2 diabetes".

According to Dr Fettke's wife, nutrition has been deemed by AHPRA to be "outside the scope of practice" of an orthopaedic surgeon, even though the majority of Dr Fettke's patients have weight-related joint issues and/or diabetes.

Dr Fettke advises patients to limit their intake of added sugar to the levels recommended by both the World Health Organisation (WHO) and our own CSIRO. WHO recommends that no more than 10 percent and ideally no more than 5 percent of daily energy intake should come from free sugars. This is the equivalent of 12 and ideally six teaspoons of added sugar per day. The average intake by Australians is approximately 14 teaspoons a day with teenagers consuming considerably more. Research has shown an association between sugar intake and the modern day health epidemics of obesity, Type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular disease.

After a two year investigation, AHPRA informed Dr Fettke recently that he was "not suitably trained or educated as a medical practitioner to be providing advice or recommendations on this topic as a medical practitioner". This 'caution' that AHPRA has handed down suggests that he is also restricted from participating in any 'nutrition' research projects to improve the health outcomes of his patients. Dr Fettke has been informed that there is no right of appeal against the decision, although a subsequent media release from AHPRA suggests that an appeal to the Supreme Court is possible (albeit prohibitively expensive).

It is also unclear from AHPRA's decision which doctors are allowed to give nutrition advice and which are not. All doctors receive equal amount of nutrition training (admittedly very little) during their medical degrees. A number of practitioners such as Dr Fettke then go on to explore the science behind nutrition more fully.

The field of nutrition is going though a very interesting time with some long-held beliefs being widely challenged. In addition there are numerous unqualified "gurus" giving advice about what we should and should not be eating. Surely it is preferable to have a doctor giving nutrition advice rather than unqualified individuals, many of whom have a product or program to sell.

I have actually heard Dr Fettke speak at conferences on the topic of nutrition and have been hugely impressed by the depth of his scientific knowledge and his passion to make a difference to his patients.

Surely we should be encouraging, not discouraging, doctors to be giving lifestyle advice in an attempt to reduce the rapidly increasing numbers of Australians suffering from obesity and Type 2 diabetes. The decision by AHPRA needs to be urgently reviewed.

Dr Peter Brukner is Professor of Sports Medicine at La Trobe University and convenor of the SugarByHalf campaign.
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Old Tue, Nov-29-16, 04:50
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Excellent article by Dr Brukner, another LC champion for Australia's health and their cricket team. https://www.dietdoctor.com/full-interview-brukner
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Old Tue, Nov-29-16, 06:03
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Thanks Roz and Janet. Brukner is another steady voice promoting a healthy nutritional approach. With so many contradictory voices weighing in on recommended dietary practices worldwide, it's a challenge for anyone to define a healthy WOE. With all this background noise and major health organizations making recommendations contributing to poor health, we need (unfortunately) coercive events (health issues due to terrible dietary habits leading to obesity, CVD, diabetes, brute-force medical interventions) and steady voices linking poor diet to health risk. What's happening in Australia and South Africa may be the next coercive events as the medical establishments feeling threatened inadvertently expose what's really happening. One can hope.
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Old Wed, Apr-26-17, 08:46
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Good interview with update of what Dr. Fettke is doing now, how he plans to go forward still giving advice and lectures, testing how far the ruling to silence him can go. In the meantime, Belinda, a former nurse now unaffliated, can write whatever on the internet.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb...ouldnt-silenced
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Old Thu, May-11-17, 05:05
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The Senate inquiry makes changes to the Process used by the medical board, AHPRA. Need to listen to a 20 minute Tasmanian radio interview for all the nuances of action taken. http://www.tasmaniatalks.com.au/the...bullying-claims but a win for all the doctors overseen by AHPRA and Dr Fettke.
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Dr Fettke continues his health crusade in a public talk.

http://www.themercury.com.au/lifest...c034a6aeace0d9a
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Old Fri, Dec-15-17, 03:32
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Dr Gary Fettke dug up a nutritional tidbit. The 1993 Diabetes manual for Dietitians was sponsored by the Australian Sugar Industry (in big bold type with logo on first page...at least they didn’t bother to hid the fact )

"How a Sugar Industry alliance with Diabetes Australia has ruined our health"

This very short article was written by Belinda Fettke at ISupportGary website, who can write about nutrition, because she is not a qualified doctor.
Short video clip of the Book and graph of Diabetes cases in Australia since its publication.
https://isupportgary.com/articles/s...betes-australia
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Belinda Fettke adds a 20 minute talk on "The Evolution of Plant Based Dietary Guidelines" a shorter history of vegetarians and religion similar to Gary's CrossFit talk ...interesting with a fun song at end. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IlhL-WQ_X2Y
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Old Sun, Jan-07-18, 10:09
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Ahh, that made my morning, Janet. Belinda gives a very revealing and illuminating presentation with great humor. Talk about the deck being stacked in nutrition for well over 100 years!!! It's never been about the science, and pseudo "science" has effectively been used to scare people into a dangerous standard diet worldwide. Conflicts of interest must be exposed and the word must get out despite the business structures that are in place to discourage the truth. Food manufacturers (developing the wrong things to eat), Pharmaceuticals (to mitigate the symptoms caused by eating the wrong things), and the medical community (in place to prescribe the pharmaceuticals that mitigate the symptoms caused by eating the wrong things). It's breathtaking how this relationship has evolved into a powerful business vertical with the governments supporting this fiction over the many years it's been developing, and I'm including all politicians from all parties that form the governments.

"Science" has become a mere byproduct and a tool used to bully the public into perceptions founded on a false belief system.

Edited to add: When I think of the television commercials by the cereal manufacturers aimed at children to brainwash them with this sugary propaganda at such an early age, it's really not hard to understand why people today have such a hard time moving to a healthy diet. We've been brainwashed for so long, that it's going to take a few coercive events (massive increases in obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cancer) to convince people that changes must be made. However, taking medications and getting treatment for these symptoms of a bad diet have become so commonplace, that we think this is the new normal. This is another reason why understanding history and questioning why things have changed over time is so important. Know I'm preaching to the choir here.

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Unfortunately, learning the hard way mostly means dying, which seems to be keeping a lid on the quantity of people who get a clue.

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