Amber just had a baby- maybe she is?

Congrats BTW Amber!

Good Luck! I had the same problem with low carb. The cravings would get the best of me. ZC fixed that for me. If you have not been to ZIOH, there is alot of info there. There are some carnivores on the Paleo forum here too.

Amber is right about the fat too. I forget that because I tend to eat fatty meat.

It took my body several months to get over being tired all the time. But, I was nursing when I switched, so that could have factored into the situation.

Wait till they get to college - it's even worse!

A new thread... glad to see this is going strong

I've been doing this for about a month and in the beginning, I was exhausted. My energy has improved, but it's still not where it was when I was carbing. Give it time, it will get better.

Someone on the old thread asked about thyroid. I was hypothyroid and went off my medication when zc. It was rough for a while there, but all balanced out. I was on a very low dose of Synthoid before.

Cool to see this morphing now into a new thread. I was down in NC visiting my dad and sister for Thanksgiving week. I didn't fall face-down into the nasty carbage (no grains, no sugar) but did eat some of the veggies, and I have to say they tasted *damn good* to me. I enjoyed every single bite. My son made a yam dish for Thanksgiving that was one of the tastiest things I've had in years.

I have to confess that I do enjoy some veggies, and they never cause me any sorts of cravings. I ate like a *pig* the whole time I was down in NC - plenty of cheese and eggs and meat, but also plenty of veggies, including SF pumpkin soufflé with freshly whipped heavy cream. Also some plain, unsweetened sliced apples baked with cinnamon, butter and chopped pecans, and also topped with plenty of whipped cream! I loved it all and no hint of any cravings. Still came home a half pound lighter than when I had gone down there. Now I'm back to basically ZC as I enjoy that, and it's so darn easy when I'm cooking just for me. I went to Whole Foods when I came home - primarily to get my *favorite* bacon, and damned if they didn't have any of it! But they had London Broil and stewing chuck steak chunks on sale for $3.99/pound, so I bought some and cooked it up in the crockpot. Yum, my favorite way to cook it. Down some more this morning to hit a new low. That halfway mark is right around the corner.

Thanks, MMiller. I'm not quite so dragged out this morning - we'll see what happens once I get going today. I'm starting to think that sleep may be part of the problem. In the beginning of ketosis I'm usually really wired and have trouble sleeping. From what I've read, sleep improves dramatically for a lot of ZCers. I did sleep longer last night than usual, so maybe I'm almost there. *fingers crossed*

Glad your energy is up. Good luck!

I didn't have much adaptation time at all and felt good quickly, but was coming from VLC so was used to ketosis. Three weeks is usually enough time though. The one thing I'd think of is fat calories. If you're not eating fatty meat (or have concentrated fat like butter, lard, tallow, cream, etc.) you could be getting too little fat.

Please let us know how it goes, as I don't know many folks who sent from SAD to ZC.

joe

Welcome aboard, Dodg4kat! I think you'll experience great things eating ZC; I certainly have.

I'm on my 5th day of ZC and it's so much easier to do while journaling and reading more of the boards.

I have my tired days and my not so tired days.

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Hey, Joe! I've been on and off lowcarb for five (!) years, and this time - on ZC - is the longest I've lasted. I'm shocked that I've gone over three weeks with no trouble at all. I've been in ketosis hundreds of times (no kidding), but never for more than a few days. The first day or two, usually 3 or 4 days into lc, I get a tremendous burst of energy and feel fantastic. Then after about 2 or 3 days my heart starts pounding and racing at odd times, often in the middle of the night. This always scared me and I would either quit the diet, or eat more carbs to alleviate the problem. The carbs would apparently cause cravings and I would go back to eating SAD once again. (Of course, in the second situation, I didn't know the carbs were causing my cravings - I just always blamed myself for not having enough willpower.)

I searched for an answer for years, and got lots of suggestions, but nothing helped. I finally found out (on the PaNu website, I think) that the heart pounding is caused by the body producing epinephrine to help the liver switch over to glucose production and is a normal part of keto-adaptation. Most people aren't bothered by it, but some are more sensitive, like me. Anyway, once I knew my heart wasn't about to explode I just determined to push through it, because adding carbs just starts the whole process over again and you never get adapted. (Sorry if I'm going on and on about something you already know...I just figured there might be someone out there reading this with the same problem. )

As to the fat - yes, I'm eating plenty. I eat fatty meat, and when I'm not sure, I add butter and some heavy cream to my diet.

Thank you - I'll keep you posted.