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Old Tue, Nov-03-09, 18:11
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Default Most heart attack patients' cholesterol levels did not indicate cardiac risk

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A new national study has shown that nearly 75 percent of patients hospitalized for a heart attack had cholesterol levels that would indicate they were not at high risk for a cardiovascular event, based on current national cholesterol guidelines.


And I say to myself -- gee, maybe they might think that cholesterol levels aren't predictive?

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"Almost 75 percent of heart attack patients fell within recommended targets for LDL cholesterol, demonstrating that the current guidelines may not be low enough to cut heart attack risk in most who could benefit," said Dr. Gregg C. Fonarow, Eliot Corday Professor of Cardiovascular Medicine and Science at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA and the study's principal investigator.


Or not.

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucl...eart-75668.aspx
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Researchers found that 54.6 percent of patients had HDL levels below 40 mg/dL. Developing more effective treatments to boost HDL levels may help reduce the number of patients hospitalized for heart attacks, according to the authors.


http://cme.medscape.com/viewarticle/479499_5
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Diet. High-carbohydrate, low-fat diets may be associated with low HDL-C.
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What's that emotion called where you simultaneously want to laugh and bash your head against the wall?
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Well since 1/4 of Americans have what they consider to be high cholesterol, and half of all Americans will die from a heart attack (the number one killer in this country by far,) it doesn't take a genius to figure out that more than half of people who die from heart attacks have low cholesterol (even if you assume that everyone with high cholesterol will eventually die of heart failure, you still have to factor in the people with high cholesterol that will get hit by a bus and thus don't get a chance to die from heart failure.)
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Well since 1/4 of Americans have what they consider to be high cholesterol, and half of all Americans will die from a heart attack


I found this on a slide talking about Framington:
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the average U.S. cholesterol level is approximately 210 to 220 mg/dL


From another source, the standard deviation is abot 38 mg/dL, so most (90% or so) people will have cholesterol between 134 & 296 mg/dL. In other words, given a cholesterol reading, it really isn't possible to tell if a person is in the CHD or healthy group.

I posted this in a rant on my blog, with a picture and some links to sources: http://100calsaday.blogspot.com/200...dict-heart.html

BTW, I think the numbers on cause of death (in 06, which was what I looked at) are 550k from cancer, 650k from heart disease & presumably less than 100k from other causes (in round numbers). I would bet that some of the heart disease is really old age, where people die in their sleep with no autopsy -- that is, old, otherwise unknown. Our chance of dying prematurely from cancer is very likely close to that for dying prematurely from hearth disease.

Beth

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Let's see overall cholesterol numbers mean nothing so further reduce overall cholesterol and how you ask well the explanation is simple low fat more carbos and statins. I agree with Nancy Lc lol and I have a headache.
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