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Old Tue, Apr-14-09, 13:07
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San Diego, California - Researchers have uncovered new evidence suggesting factors other than genes could cause obesity, finding that genetically identical cells store widely differing amounts of fat depending on subtle variations in how cells process insulin.

Learning the precise mechanism responsible for fat storage in cells could lead to methods for controlling obesity.

"Insights from our study also will be important for understanding the precise roles of insulin in obesity or Type II diabetes, and to the design of effective intervention strategies," said Ji-Xin Cheng, an assistant professor in Purdue University's Weldon School of Biomedical Engineering and Department of Chemistry.

Findings indicate that the faster a cell processes insulin, the more fat it stores.

Other researchers have suggested that certain "fat genes" might be associated with excessive fat storage in cells. However, the Purdue researchers confirmed that these fat genes were expressed, or activated, in all of the cells, yet those cells varied drastically - from nearly zero in some cases to pervasive in others - in how much fat they stored.

The researchers examined a biological process called adipogenesis, using cultures of a cell line called 3T3-L1, which is often used to study fat cells. In adipogenesis, these cells turn into fat.

"This work supports an emerging viewpoint that not all biological information in cells is encoded in the genetic blueprint," said Thuc T. Le, a National Institutes of Health postdoctoral fellow at Purdue who is working with Cheng. "We found that the variability in fat storage is dependent on how 3T3-L1 cells process insulin, a hormone secreted by the pancreas after meals to trigger the uptake of glucose from the blood into the liver, muscle or fat cells."

The findings are detailed in a research paper appearing online in the journal PLoS ONE, published by the Public Library of Science, a non-profit organization of scientists and physicians.

"This varied capability to store fat among genetically identical cells is a well-observed but poorly understood phenomenon," Cheng said

The researchers determined that these differences in fat storage depend not on fat-gene expression but on variations in a cascade of events within an "insulin-signaling pathway." The pathway enables cells to take up glucose from the blood.

"Only one small variation at the beginning of the cascade can lead to a drastic variation in fat storage at the end of the cascade," Cheng said.

The researchers conducted "single cell profiling" using a combination of imaging techniques to precisely compare fat storage in cloned cells having the same fat genes expressed.

Single cell profiling allows researchers to precisely compare the inner workings of individual cells, whereas the conventional analytical approach in biochemistry measures entire populations of cells and then provides data representing an average.

"In this case, we don't want an average. We need to find out what causes fat storage at the single-cell level so that we can compare one cell to another, " Le said. "By profiling multiple events in single cells, we found that variability in fat storage is due to varied rates of insulin processing among cells."

The cell culture used in the research contains cloned mice fibroblast cells.

"This particular type of cell culture has been used to study the molecular control of obesity for the past 35 years," Cheng said. "Researchers have observed tremendous variability in how much fat is stored in cells with identical genes, but no one really knows why. Our findings have shed some light on this phenomenon."

The researchers used a specialized imaging method called coherent anti-Stokes Raman scattering, or CARS, combined with other techniques, including flow cytometry and fluorescence microscopy.

"This multimodal imaging system allows us to correlate different events, like fat storage, gene expression and insulin signaling," Le said. "We can monitor these different events at the same time, and that's why we can determine the mechanism at the single-cell level."

Insulin attaches to binding sites on cell membranes, signaling the cells to take up glucose from the blood. Cells that are said to be resistant to insulin fail to take up glucose, the primary cause of Type II diabetes, a medical condition affecting nearly 24 million Americans. About two-thirds of U.S. adults are overweight, and nearly one-third obese.

The research, which has been funded by the National Institutes of Health, is ongoing. Future work may seek to pinpoint specific events in the insulin-signaling cascade that are responsible for fat storage.

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I wonder how long it will take their sugar-doped brain cells to process this information and link it to "carbohydrates drive up insulin." It will take about 7,354 more studies and take about 50 years. Hope I'm alive to see it.
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Future work may seek to pinpoint specific events in the insulin-signaling cascade that are responsible for fat storage.


Highly processed carbohydrates and especially fructose are responsible for high insulin levels, thus for fat storage.

This was discovered decades ago!!! All they need to do is read GCBC. It's all in there. I'm re-reading it right now.

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Gee...Dr. Atkins figured this out a while ago. So did the Eades, and William Banting in the 1800's....
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I get distressed at the sort of comments regarding this study. Scientists are not specifically looking at treatment and diets. They are studying the very complex chemical etc. processes by which events happen within cells. This is extremely important information, and while it will have no effect upon our diets/treatment now(for those of us with diabetes), it is one more piece of information (a brick in the building) that down the road will be essential to understanding how the body works, and possible cures in the future.

And as a practical matter we are not going to see doctors, diaticians, diabetic counselors get over the "your fat/have diabetes because you are lazy" syndrome until scientists, like the ones in the above studies, have shown that the pathway to obesity and diabetes has known chemical processes, different from people who are not fat or diabetic.
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And as a practical matter we are not going to see doctors, diaticians, diabetic counselors get over the "your fat/have diabetes because you are lazy" syndrome until scientists, like the ones in the above studies, have shown that the pathway to obesity and diabetes has known chemical processes, different from people who are not fat or diabetic.


Hi RobLL,

Like I said, read GCBC (or, if I'm presuming wrongly, read it again): studies have already been carried out linking insulin to obesity to diabetes. This is really not new science.

And doctors tend to rely on the knowledge they gained during medical school, which from the 1970s onwards, at least in the USA, was definitely against high-fat, low-carb diets.

Many of these doctors - like Atkins himself - only change their minds when they themselves are confronted directly with a weight or diabetes problem, the most recent example being Jay Wortman up in Alaska. For whatever reason, they try low-carbing themselves (having usually tried everything else, like the rest of us) and - hey presto - because it works, they become converts.

Or they just assume that they - like most people do - don't do enough exercise and/or are too lazy to restrict their food intake enough to lose weight, and remain fat and ignorant about the easiest way to lose fat. They blame their increasing weight on their genes, on their ageing, but rarely think of questioning the low-fat dogma they were taught at medical school.

I certainly applaud these studies being done, but it is not new stuff.

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I get distressed at the sort of comments regarding this study.


Sometimes we think we know it all after we have read a fun diet or popular science book. Don't let the drive-by postings disappoint you.

Anyone read the study?
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Sometimes we think we know it all after we have read a fun diet or popular science book. Don't let the drive-by postings disappoint you.

Anyone read the study?


Greetings to The Caveman!

Isn't that part of the fun of being a member of a forum like this??? That you can sound off as if you know it all just cos you read one book???

I'm re-reading GCBC at the moment - does that then count like reading two books??? There's loads of things I didn't really cotton on to the first time round. (I have read a few more books than just one on this topic, actually, some even in German, too, some of which were "semi-technical", but for the sake of argument, I'll pretend it was just one).

As for having read the study: I must confess that I'm a notorious skimmer of reading material that I see on screen, which is why I prefer to read books, so I scanned this study, saw "cell culture" and, thought, "Not relevant to real humans". At least, it's certainly not more relevant than all the studies and experiments done with real actual obese or overweight people quoted in GCBC.

Just another two cents from a drive-by poster...

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Some of us folks are just plain folks. We use small words and short sentences. And we have opinions that we love to share. And we haven't been banned from this site, yet and don't intend on leaving without a fight.
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I changed my mind. Rob, take your high expectations and shove it.

(Wifezilla misquoted you in her blog, Amanda.)
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Opps..I did. It was Hellistile who deserves credit
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Opps..I did. It was Hellistile who deserves credit


AWWW... And there was me thinking I was gonna have my 15 nanoseconds of fame on your blog...

But feel free to quote my pearls of wisdom any time, OK???

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So many pearls...so little time!!
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Low carb works for some people
It does not work for other people
It is not magic, nor religion
There are processes by which it works for those for whom it works.
Metabolism is poorly understood.

In order to understand it we need to understand it IN DETAIL, the study has looked at one significant detail.
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The only known cases of people who cannot lose weight on low-carb are people with hormonal abnormalities, like diseases affecting the thyroid gland. Weight control in humans is exclusively controlled by hormones, insulin being the major player.

So low-carb should work for the vast majority and if it does not work then they will need to have their doctor check their thyroid and adrenal glands.

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