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Old Sat, Mar-21-09, 21:13
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Plan: PSMF/IF
Stats: 236/181/180 Male 72 inches
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Progress: 98%
Location: Alamo city, Texas
Thumbs up Electronic Smokes -- the latest rage

Forget the nasty gum or sticky patches, these are the same as a real paper cigarette in many ways without the harsh smoke, CO, tar, health hits or the big hit$ to your budget-- once you get started. These are almost completely perfected and affordable:
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I am smokin one now. They are kind of heavy, sweet and hearty like a reg cig, but with out the harshness. No need for an ashtray-- just drop one in your pocket when you are done for a few minutes, a day or a fortnight. These don't normally activate until used. The cartridges come in menthol or reg from light to strong at about 80 cents a pack US. I bought a starter kit on-line and have since re-ordered from ECS and an USB port E-Cig battery charger.

These are not sold as an "Quit Smoking" product even if effective as such, but as an alternative to regular unhealthy cigarette smoking. I am sure there are many entities such as 'big tobacco' and the FDA that perceive these as a threat-- well the genie is out of the bottle complete with a puff of sweet smoke

I doubt if ill ever go back to reg ciggs and may quit altogether. "There is no safe cigarette" -- well maybe so until now. -- Mike_D
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=6975762

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Old Sat, Mar-21-09, 21:59
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Strange inventions these days
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Old Sat, Mar-21-09, 23:52
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wow.... interesting. The article says that the makers of these products claim that they can be used where cigarettes are banned - good luck explaining to the security guards that the cigarette looking thing in your mouth (which emits what appears to be smoke) is actually not a cigarette at all....
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Old Sun, Mar-22-09, 17:11
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There still is no 'safe' cigarette. Nicotine has negative health consequences even without the tar and myriad other chemicals found in regular cigarettes; Nicotine is still a poison, after all. Granted, this is a lot less toxic then smoking filterless Camels, but it's still not doing your health any favors.
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Old Sun, Mar-22-09, 18:55
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They still leave you addicted to nicotine.
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Old Wed, Mar-25-09, 11:13
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They still leave you addicted to nicotine.
In my case nicotine and menthol

You can always tell security its a "wooden cigarette" as seen on Boston Legal

Anyway I don't need any regular paper ciggy$, anymore-- they taste like burning garbage to me now.
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Old Wed, Mar-25-09, 11:39
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I found quitting smoking real easy, I must have quit a 100 times. This sounds to me like swapping one addiction for another.
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Old Sat, Mar-28-09, 06:42
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I've been using an electronic cigarette for a while now. I don't smoke regular cigs at all and don't miss them one little bit. I consider myself to have quit smoking as much as a person who's given up cigarettes and uses patches or nicotine gum. I've experienced the same health improvements as if I'd just quit smoking cold turkey. Nicotine on it's own is considered to not be much different a health risk than caffeine, both can raise blood pressure. It's mostly the smoke that gets you...whether it's from inhaling cigarette smoke, spending time too close to a beach fire, too much car exhaust around you or inhaling smoke/emissions from any other source...dangerous chemicals are produced/released by combustion. My chances of harming my health or others is much higher if I have a few glasses of wine or associate with someone else who does than they are by using my electronic cigarette. After all, drinking alcohol and getting tipsy is controlled poison. Nicotine, alcohol, certain vitamins and a great many other everyday things around us are extremely toxic if concentrated or purified to finely.

I realize that I'm still addicted to nicotine (and caffeine), but I do believe that using an electronic cigarette is a much safer alternative to smoking for someone who has tried repeatedly to quit and who has proven unlikely to be successful in quitting. In an ideal world addiction wouldn't exist. Besides, I don't have anything else left to give up!
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Old Sat, Apr-04-09, 16:14
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I just got my e-cigarette and so far I really like it. I hope that it will help me to be able to quit smoking.
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Old Fri, Apr-10-09, 10:12
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When stress would hit I would go get smokes. A friend died 2 months ago and I went for cigarettes and disgusted myself. My husband is military and works with a guy who vapes (E-cigarettes) in government building. After some research DH got me one and I never even think about normal smokes.

BE WARNED The main medium PG is used in many things, uncluding medical inhalers but also used on Cows to TREAT Ketosis! So this is a HUGE issue for those of us doing low carb.

Also, you can vape with an e-cig WITHOUT nicotine many are using e-cigs to wean off nic but still get the oral fix. PG is also said to help keep the body Germ free but the data on this is very old and I would like to see someone modern.

There are other thins on the up side and the down side. No matter what though, I really feel that e-cigs are wayyyyy safer than know anologs (normal cigs) killers.
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Old Sat, Feb-27-10, 13:51
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I have been using an e-cig for 10 months now...I started out buying the nicotine "smoke juice" at three different levels, low, medium, and high. I started on the high, and then went to the medium, then the low nicotine, now I make my own "smoke juice". It is simple and I control what goes in my body. I use vegetable glycerin which is used in cake decorating. A bit of flavor from a vanilla bean and a dash of vodka for that nicotine style kick. No nicotine..none.
I LOVED smoking, really enjoyed it, but wanted something not as bad for me...
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Old Sun, May-08-11, 11:42
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I LOVE my e-cig. I smoked for 16 years and thought I would die with one in my hand. I have not had a paper cigarette in over 6 months now. I do not wheeze anymore, I can taste my food, and I do not smell like an ashtray.

My doctor said my vitals were much better now as well. I spend less than $100 a month on my "smokes" now. I was spending probably 300-400 per month before.
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Old Mon, Jul-18-11, 18:37
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There still is no 'safe' cigarette. Nicotine has negative health consequences even without the tar and myriad other chemicals found in regular cigarettes; Nicotine is still a poison, after all. Granted, this is a lot less toxic then smoking filterless Camels, but it's still not doing your health any favors.


Some of what you say is true....but cigarettes have 300 harmful chemicals and ecigs have 2. Don't forget that tobacco companies add chemicals that are more addictive that nicotine....to keep you addicted.

I started smoking ecigs in May and I went through a weeks withdrawals for all of the other chemicals that my body was used to having. I haven't smoked a regular cigarette since then. I started on the 16mg and now I'm on the 11mg....I will taper down to 0mg. Awesome tool to stop smoking and if you never intend to stop smoking.....they are still much better than regular smokes. My lungs felt better in just a few days.
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Old Mon, Jul-18-11, 18:39
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I've been using an electronic cigarette for a while now. I don't smoke regular cigs at all and don't miss them one little bit. I consider myself to have quit smoking as much as a person who's given up cigarettes and uses patches or nicotine gum. I've experienced the same health improvements as if I'd just quit smoking cold turkey. Nicotine on it's own is considered to not be much different a health risk than caffeine, both can raise blood pressure. It's mostly the smoke that gets you...whether it's from inhaling cigarette smoke, spending time too close to a beach fire, too much car exhaust around you or inhaling smoke/emissions from any other source...dangerous chemicals are produced/released by combustion. My chances of harming my health or others is much higher if I have a few glasses of wine or associate with someone else who does than they are by using my electronic cigarette. After all, drinking alcohol and getting tipsy is controlled poison. Nicotine, alcohol, certain vitamins and a great many other everyday things around us are extremely toxic if concentrated or purified to finely.

I realize that I'm still addicted to nicotine (and caffeine), but I do believe that using an electronic cigarette is a much safer alternative to smoking for someone who has tried repeatedly to quit and who has proven unlikely to be successful in quitting. In an ideal world addiction wouldn't exist. Besides, I don't have anything else left to give up!



I totally agree!
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Old Thu, Aug-18-11, 21:21
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what kind of flavors do you guys use? Do the sweet tasting ones trigger cravings?

I guess you can get roast beef flavored!
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