I certainly agree with the fact that Carb Face is for real. In fact, the Eadses (Power Protein) talk about having that occasional carb splurge (they call it finding the honey tree) and being prepared to have "tread marks" from your socks and other general body bloating issues. I've certainly experienced it. I sometimes feel mentally foggy at the same time.

The best remedy is to go back to induction for a few days. I find that I can eliminate all of the fluid in 24-48 hours and feel better. I haven't tried intermittent fasting after a carb holiday, but I wonder if that works any better. Now that this thread is 5 pages long, I may have missed something. So, my apologies if I am being redundant.

I'm very glad PilotGal is on this forum - she has a lot to share. I'm also grateful to her for starting the Zero Carb thread, because it has been very helpful to me. That said, I find it very sad that anyone would post a picture of another person and say "his whole body has become a huge balloon and it's a really ugly sight."

I find that statement to be a lot uglier than any amount of fat could ever be. Think about how many obese people are part of this forum - some probably much bigger than that guy. They don't need to come here and be told (however indirectly) how ugly they are.

Edited: because I'm not sure I made myself clear in this post. I'm sure neither you nor PilotGal think it would be amusing for that man to have a heart attack. My problem is that she thought it was okay to call him ugly simply for being fat and that you gave her a "Damn! You go, Girl!" (your words) in response.

Nothing I said had anything to do with the "ugly" comment. I bolded the part that I thought was funny in my first post, and I explained it once again in my response to your negative comment (the words "blow up.") It simply amused me that she used the words "Blow Up,"-nothing more, nothing less, and if that offends you -there is nothing I can do. (I did not think she used those words on him, but reverted to "slang" when explaining it to us.)

My "Damn, You go, Girl!" was not in response to the "ugly" comment. Though I guess I can see how you might interpret it that way. You are jumping to conclusions about the meaning behind my words again.

My "Damn, You go, Girl!" -meant that I was impressed that she had the gumption and enough concern to make the effort to try to get through to the man, a complete stranger to her, because she was worried about his health. I don't even have the ba**s to tell my family, whom I dearly love, that I think saturated fat is good for us, even though I am concerned and worried about their health, much less make the effort for a complete stranger. So the "You Go!" was for her gumption, NOT meant as "Way to insult him, Girl!"

My post was not meant to be an endorsement of the opinion that the man is ugly or that it is okay to call him ugly-though it has obviously come across that way to you. I haven't even thought about the issue of whether I think it's okay to call him ugly or not, because, honestly, that sentence didn't really jump out/register with me and I didn't even realize she called him ugly. (From always "glossing over" and not thoroughly reading posts-yes-even though I looked at it twice, bc my first thought to your response was, "Nobody said that!")

You might then say that those words should have jumped out and offended me and all of us, and my response would be: She gave her opinion, and it is what it is. Whether obesity makes some people unattractive is obviously a personal opinion, and I understand that you don't think she should be sharing it on this forum. But I am not going to debate political correctness.

If I thought my comment would be interpreted as an endorsement that "it is okay to call fat people ugly" I certainly never would have posted. I already do regret posting because of the misinterpretation, frustration of the exchange, the time that I have used in carefully trying to explain myself after impulsively shooting off a one-liner in two seconds, and the fact that you chose to express your displeasure to me instead of the person who made the remarks that offended you in the first place.

oh for crying out loud.
read it as it was written.
i wrote the program director and told them i thought the man was gravely ill and needed medical attention.
he looks like he's about to blow up.
"his whole body has become a huge balloon and it's a really ugly sight."
it looks like his body can't hold any more water.
that is an ugly sight.


read the post as it was written.
stop analyzing posts on this forum because if you continue to do so, you're going to find an awful lot of people with an awful lot of issues and that's going to stop you from sleeping at night...


sheeeeesh

Telling the radio station "this guy is going to blow up one of these days" and then posting here that his body "is a really ugly sight", no matter what the reason, is unkind. It has nothing to do with political correctness, or "analyzing posts" - I just don't like seeing people insulted.

Time to move on...

For me, carb face definitely exists. I haven't low-carbed in more than a year and it shows on my face. My eyes are puffy and I have big bags under them. When I was being very careful with my carbs my face definitely looked more alive and for lack of a better word, happy.

I'm back to LC again, and this time I'm determined to make it.

OK, just a very minor note here - one day of LCing and my face is already less puffy, especially around the eyes. That is my personal experience and not necessarily indicative of the population as a whole.

I agree.. I am on day 6, and I woke up this morning and did't think 'Damn Girl, your puffy'.. I am sure this is a very real thing for sure

On a side note, I don't know how much of it has to do with LCing and how much has to do with carbs making me retain water, but my double chin disappeared after about 10 pounds. Freaked me out when I first noticed it. I didn't even get the chance to tell my 2nd chin good-bye or anything!

If I had known about carb face 40 years ago, I may never have gotten fat. I had been a normal weight kid and underweight during my growth spurt, but at 15 I started looking puffy (that "baby fat" look) even though 135 lbs was close to ideal on my 5'6' frame. So I started HC/LF dieting and yo-yoed for 30 years before ditching the carbs and finally finding success 6 years later after upping the fat and cutting out gluten, soy & virtually all casein.

Well, that would be nice. I'm a good weight already, but unless my posture is perfect I still have a bit of a double chin.

I wasn't to sure after reading this a few days ago.. But now today I woke up (day 5) looked in the mirror and was amazed that my face was not all puffy! IT WAS NICE for a change!! My face looked so much thinner. TOTALLY believe in Carb face now!

This is so funny because I never realized it was from the carbs. I always notice when my face all of a sudden appears to be slimmer when I do Atkins! My old boss even commented, somewhat inappropriately..."Debi, your face is prettier since you've lost weight!" If I remember correctly Dr. Atkins mentions in his book that a diet higher in fat makes for a nicer face than someone who has lost weight with low fat dieting.

Apparently you're in good company. My wife was commenting on some big star, maybe it was Zooey Deschanel. "How come people think she's pretty? She's got a double chin!" She's a gluten-free vegan, by the way. I don't know how much fat she eats, but I bet it's not much.

That would be cool too

I kinda think my face is looking thinner, but I could just be seeing what I'm looking for. We'll see.