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Old Tue, May-06-08, 13:18
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Default Advertisements Saying Dairy Products Help You Lose Weight Are Misleading, Study Shows

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ScienceDaily (May 2, 2008) — There have been recent claims that dairy products can help people lose weight, and the dairy industry has hyped the assertion by investing millions of dollars in commercial advertising. However, a new review of the evidence reveals that neither dairy nor calcium intake promotes weight loss.

Amy Joy Lanou of the University of North Carolina at Asheville and Neal Barnard with the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine in Washington, DC, evaluated evidence from 49 clinical trials from 1966 to 2007 that assessed the effect of milk, dairy products, or calcium intake on body weight and BMI, with or without the use of dieting.

Evidence from the trials showed that neither dairy products nor calcium supplements helped people lose weight. Of the 49 clinical trials, 41 showed no effect, two demonstrated weight gain, one showed a lower rate of weight gain, and only five showed weight loss.

An association between calcium or dairy intake and weight loss seen in some observational studies may be attributable to other factors, such as exercise, decreased soda intake, lifestyle habits, or increased fiber, fruit, and vegetable intake.

“Our findings demonstrate that increasing dairy product intake does not consistently result in weight or fat loss and may actually have the opposite effect,” the authors conclude.

This study is published in the May 2008 issue of Nutrition Reviews.


http://www.sciencedaily.com/release...80502104547.htm

(not sure what else the people in these studies were eating though - probably low fat)
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Old Tue, May-06-08, 20:25
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Default more diet disinformation

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“Our findings demonstrate that increasing dairy product intake does not consistently result in weight or fat loss and may actually have the opposite effect,” the authors conclude.
So if 3-A-Day dairy is a myth, what about the "5 servings a Day" of fruit and vegetables?
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Old Tue, May-06-08, 21:11
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If I take a diet drug and still eat 4000 calories a day I'm not going to lose weight. Theoretically, NOTHING can be said to make you lose weight -- and nothing can be said to make you gain weight. Meals don't happen in a vacuum from other meals and lifestyle.
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Old Tue, May-06-08, 23:03
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You know, there are so many things to say here I don't know where to start.

PCRM is against meat and animal product consumption.
As pointed out above, no single food makes anyone lose weight so what the heck else were they eating.
Not all clinical studies are equal: how did they choose the studies for review?
Butter and skim milk are both dairy but I wouldn't expect them to contribute equally to a diet or to the ability of a person to lose weight while consuming them.
I'd expect the consumption of even skim milk to be be an improvement over the consumption of coca cola.

But, mostly, does anyone take these commercials seriously? They are similar to Special K promoting itself as a high protein breakfast option (which I note the PCRM is not objecting to at all) as if eggs, sausage and bacon don't exist.
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Sigh.

It may well be true that calcium does not facilitate weight loss (how many times have we read that in how many different women's mags...)

BUT --

Whenever I see Neal Barnard's name associated with a study or "scientific finding," I automatically discount whatever follows. Totally. It's reflexive, it's ad hominem... but I can't help it. He has no semblance of objectivity and he has dragged Atkins through the mud repeatedly.

Ugh. Got tofu?

(runs out the door screaming)
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Old Wed, May-07-08, 07:42
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Sigh.

It may well be true that calcium does not facilitate weight loss (how many times have we read that in how many different women's mags...)

BUT --

Whenever I see Neal Barnard's name associated with a study or "scientific finding," I automatically discount whatever follows. Totally. It's reflexive, it's ad hominem... but I can't help it. He has no semblance of objectivity and he has dragged Atkins through the mud repeatedly.

Ugh. Got tofu?

(runs out the door screaming)



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Not all clinical studies are equal: how did they choose the studies for review?


Exactly. This was a review, not a real "study". There is no way one can "review" any amount of studies without bias, especially if the reviewer is a radical vegetarian. PCRM stikes again.
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Old Wed, May-07-08, 08:35
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You know, there are so many things to say here I don't know where to start.

PCRM is against meat and animal product consumption.

PCRM - PeTA's Crackpot Research Men. Contains less than 6% actual physicians. (I am not making the second part up.)
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There is no way one can "review" any amount of studies without bias, especially if the reviewer is a radical vegetarian.
Legitimate scientific reviews are written frequently. Whether this one has a bias I couldn't say.
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