Chaquita

Could you post Elle´s recipe for Chocolate Mock Danish? I did a search and couldn´t find that exact one and there are SO many variations out there. Thank you!!

Cat

Good morning! Great to hear that you are doing well! I know you are not asking for anyone to provide suggestions, but I found that others' advice helped me tremendously, especially when I first started Atkins over a year and a half ago. So, here is goes.... First, I would strongly encourage you to stay away from those darn Atkins' bars as they are filled with sugar alcohols (I count SAs in my carb counts). Second, the ham is filled with sodium (I'm sure you already know that), so it may be affecting you in terms of water retention. Further, I have had a hard time finding ham that is not injected with something; hence, there are carbs in most hams. Third, where are your veggies/salad? You say that you are following Atkins, so this is why I ask. Last, it does not seem like you are eating enough. Have you tried putting your food into fitday? Here is the link ..... http://www.fitday.com/

Anyway, I am just trying to help here and I hope that my comments are perceived this way. As we "spoke of" previously, let's do this together! Peace - Jill

As you know I've just discovered it (was way to pricey getting it shipped) but it seems a great sweetener with little of the gas related results from other "tols".
I made up mincemeat yesterday, and although my wife was grossed out by the suet, it was a lot of fun but will still be a little carby with the dried fruit, etc..



Kary ... We just gots to have a look. Can you post your incredible front yard when you get it inflated? The winter is pretty harsh here and I have only ever seen one inflatable for winter.

Chaquita, I second the request for the Mock Danish. 'Sounds great!

msalicia "i can't believe how much i enjoy eating this way. i think it's because i allow myself coffee and an americano with half and half, and davinci sf syrup when i'm fasting. i'm not sure if i should or not?"

Msalicia,
In reading over Dr. Mikes posts I believe he mentioned at one point staying under 100 cals during your fasting window, so you should watch for that to have maximum effect.
I have a large Caf-Lib on about half my fasting days. FOr two heaping Tbs. in 12 oz of water and an ounce (2 Tbs.) of half and half it works out to ...
Total: 56
Fat: 4
Carbs: 6 - 2 = 4 ECC
Fiber: 2
Protein: 2
When I add up the SF chewing gum for the day (maybe 10 - 12 pieces) it leaves me a little margin but not enough for a second cup. If only there was only a SF low cal whitener ...



I had a great strength workout yesterday to "The Protector" preceeded and followed by loads of shoveling snow. We had 30 cm yesterday and most of us will work from home (tech guys). I began building a "Snow Tree" last night after reading about ways to brighten up a long winter. I inserted the center pole, mounded with snow and sprinkled water around the whole thing. This morning will be trimming it with a machete, more sprinkling, and running the lights.

Hi Jill, welcome back. Just wondering if you differentiate at all between the different sugar alcohols. Some are defininitely not much better than sugar itself and should be counted. Others are a low carber's dream come true and are metabolically actually a slight improvement on meat (ie. no calories, no glycemic/insulemic effect, no side effects). If you count these SA's as carbs, you might as well count any low carb food.

Hopefully this message that not all SA's should be counted as carbs, but some definitely should will eventually become common low carb knowledge. I can sort of understand the pendulum swinging back after Atkins stuffed up so badly by saying no sugar alcohol needs to be counted. That is wrong, and if Atkins was still alive I doubt whether he would still be trying to perpetuate this mistake. The science is incontrovertible. Not all SA's are created equal .

The salt in ham (and even higher in bacon) is really annoying isn't it? I find bacon so much yummier if I rinse it under running water for a while before cooking.

Ottawa, I remember reading the 100 calorie suggestion, too, but when I went back to double check, couldn't find it again.
But so long as someone else remembers reading it too, I'm happy.
I do believe a zero calorie fast is the most beneficial, and therefore the best goal, but i can't give up my morning coffee either, and tried unsuccessfully to switching to drinking it black/sweetened. I have reverted to using a small amout of powdered whitener as it is far less calories than real cream, and during the fasting, keeping the calories as low as possible is my goal. Besides, I could never develop a liking for the taste of real cream in my coffee, either.

I want to stick with this WOE long term, so need strategies that make it liveable and enjoyable for me.

Ruth, liked your thoughts about supporting each other through the holidays and getting right back on track. I'm not really having any problems though, and find IF to actually be making some aspects of the holidays easier.

Last night was my job's annual Christmas dinner. It was held at the same casino/buffet as last year. Last year I was LC, but not IF. The food/selections weren't that good, and I felt deprived and punished. Made several trips to the buffet looking for something to eat so (I guess?) I could feel like I was eating as much as everyone else and therefore enjoying myself. This year, same buffet, same overcooked carby selections, I didn't care. I made the one trip, put a piece of steak, porkloin, a bbq'd rib, some sauteed mushrooms, and 3 big fresh strawberries on my plate, ate most the pork, half the rather tatseless steak, one bite of the rib, all the mushrooms and strawberries, and was done. Wasn't hungry... didn't even occur to me to make a second trip to the buffet, even though everyone I was sitting with made at least 3.

I don't care much for the bars, but I make use of the Atkins shakes occasionally, when my calorie or protein count for the day has been low, and I want something sweet. Quite opposite of stalling me, I almost always show loss on the scale the day after drinking one. Now I'm not telling everyone "drink Atkins shakes! Lose weight!".. I'm just saying that they definitely don't stall me, and everyone's different.

Nordicat and Ottawa, I couldn't find it either by doing a search, I think Elle just posted it one time and I copied it. I rarely go into the recipe forums, and just looking in the "sweet treats/baked goods" section I have reminded myself that that IS A BAD BAD PLACE!!! DO NOT GO IN THERE!!! Holy crap...I couldn't get over all the chocolate cake recipes!!

Anyways, this one is the best in my opinion! Finally found her post...

I forgot to mention that I came up with a really delicious chocolate mock danish.

1 oz cream cheese, 1 T mayo, 1 egg, 2 pkts splenda, 1 T Hershey's special dark cocoa, dash of vanilla extract. Soften cream cheese and mix will egg and mayo until perfectly smooth. Add splenda, cocoa and vanilla & mix well. Pour into buttered 6 oz ramekin and nuke covered for 1 min on 50% power. There should be a quarter-sized section in the middle that is not cooked. Let sit for about 10 minutes. Invert on plate. There will be some cooked part and some "chocoate sauce". Serve with whipped cream. About 5g carbs. Really really yummy.

I know the mayo sounds really weird, but I was getting a stomach ache from the 2 oz cream cheese and egg, so I replaced 1 oz of CC with 1 T of mayo. I wanted to keep the fat count the same, and I couldn't think of anything else semisoft that wasn't dairy. I also remembered that on the Hellman's jar there is a recipe for chocolate cake that has mayo in it. I figured, why not? You can't taste it. I actually think it's a little better than the 2 oz cc version. It's moister and denser. Like a little flourless chocolate cake with a built in chocolate sauce.

I find I like it a bit sweeter, so I add liquid stevia and the splenda...and I don't think I've ever waited 10 minutes to eat it!

What are these dreamy substances you speak of?

I've also gotten into the habit of counting all sugar alcohols, so I'm curious about the good/bad division.

Mike-- That joke with the 2 sharks was hilarious--

DrH-- Good luck restarting IF. I hope the breath doesn't bother you this time. I usually don't have problems with this, but did this week because I dropped my cals to 1000. My intake is usually higher, but trying to drop some weight before Christmas.

Ruth- My kids sometimes want to share the LC stuff I make for myself. It would be easier if I knew when I needed to make extra. lol

Oak-- I know visiting and eating with family can be challenging. I hope it goes well for you.

Ottawa-- Your snow tree sounds very interesting. I have never seen anyone do that.

DrH, or Jill : ) i can't tell you how much i appreciate your response. everything you wrote made sense, and i want to follow this WOL as acccuratley as possible. please, feel free to offer advice anytime. i'll rid of the bars, and ham, and exchange it for a steak and salad. that's so much better anyway. i'm glad that we're doing this together. my heart is in this 100%.
Ottawa, i need to read Dr.Mikes post. thank you for the note about 100 cal. or less during the fast. i think i missed quite a bit of information. i'll track down his thread.
wow, sugar alcohol's are ruthless as my weight gain has shown. i must be retaining a ton of water. i learned my lesson. good to know about the low carb skakes for when i'm in a bind like i was yesterday.
today i'm going to paint all day. i have 3 commissions before christmas and i'm really behind. it's funny how artists work well under this kind of pressure...or maybe it's just me : )
A biento
msalicia
p.s. i added a photo to my profile. not sure why it doesn't appear by my name, but it's in my profile.

Total: 1426 IF: 19/5
Fat: 70
Carbs: 77 - 14 = 63 ECC (a little too high)
Fiber: 14
Protein: 124

The carb jump was a piece of Christmas Cake followed later with 2 hot dogs (no buns) and dinner was 8 oz. round steak in strips over a garden salad. I was short on protein and had some berries, whey protein and yogurt.

I'm a little early and I've included a Caf-Lib for after my shoveling.
yesterday and last night today was a work from home day (my first and likely last). Those who went in hadn't checked their email before going to work.
We were allowed to monitor calls remotely and we had none so I was able to finish off all the chores other than finding a star for the Snow Tree. As well Music World had all there music and movies for half price at lunch and I picked up some concerts and a dozen movies. "Panic Room" was $1.99 along with a few others like that and I got several for a "String Pull" type activity over Christmas.

Monday -IF-

Eaten between 6:30 - 8:00

TJ's eggplant parmesan, 8 tequila lime chicken wingettes, dill pickle spear, LC yogurt, 2 pc RSNCPD

Total: 925
Fat: 52 468 52%
Carbs: 44 93 10% (net 23)
Fiber: 21 0 0%
Protein: 83 332 37%

This thread is great! I rarely fast, but I alternate 3-4 days of Atkins with 3-4 days of PP, which seems like decadent luxury after Atkins. I feel great on PP, but don't lose well on it. On strict Atkins, I drop weight like crazy. Alternating the two seems to balance out for me; I'm healthy and my weight is either stable or I can lose some with proper adjustments.

Has anyone else tried this? How did it work for you?

Isn't the snow great?? We got about 25cm here in Toronto, and I shoveled snow for the first time in several years on Sunday. I LOVE IT. I lived in Ottawa for a year (Carleton U dorms, I was a tunnel rat) and I know you guys get way more than we do here.

Funny though - worked up a storm shoveling yesterday, and today I didn't eat until after 8pm, after working all day and then doing a vigorous xmas shop. Wasn't the least bit hungry. Didn't overdo it yesterday, I don't think. I've been a tad lax with my scheduling and had a few carby days last week (long story...) but it didn't take more than a day to get back to feeling normal. Still a bit puffy from water, but hunger is fine.

Welcome to all the new people

Kary, I wish you lived on my street. You're totally insane. Post a pic.

Broke my fast today with a big bowl of raspberries (frozen, thawed out) with splenda and whipped cream---it was so good!! Then I had some fried chicken and finished it off with a small handful of cashews (I know, my downfall, but I only had a small handful and nothing since--maybe I'm learning!)

I got so full I didn't eat anything else, so tomorrow I'll probably have a salad to balance it out.

My weight is staying the same right now but I'm firming up with riding the bike everyday so I'm not worried--I'll drop more eventually, and since I'm staying right on plan it may be a few lbs when it finally happens...plus I'm not gaining anything so that's good too!!

Ruth

Kate, every sugar alcohol is very different in terms of calories, carbs, GI,side effects' and sweetness intensity. Atkins was treating people like complete idiots when he suggested the 'net carbs' nonsense because most sugar alcohols definitely contain net carbs, considerable calories, not very low GI, and in some people varying degrees of intestinal 'distress'. But erythritol, one of a few of the naturally occurring SA's, doesn't contain any carbs, virtually no calories, can't cause intestinal distress, and boasts a GI of zero .

As yet it's still only available in retail quantities online, and it's fairly expensive, but in combination with some other intense non calorific sweetener you can enjoy sweet completely guilt free, bearing in mind that like any other healthy low carb food, it still contains fat, protein and whatever carb calories in the other ingredients of whatever sweet you decide to eat.

Stuart