Well said, Kathy.

I would not say that they are: depends on what you are accepting as valid science, though. Theories put forth as fact change all the time.

Getting back to the WOE - how about dairy? I've read those links and they were not very helpful. I've seen that the people here have a problem with calcium intake sometimes, so what is the thing about dairy that you don't like? I'm interested in experimenting with a dairy fast to see what effects, if any, it has on me.

From a paleo perspective, HG's wouldn't have used dairy bc they didn't practice animal husbandry - they had no domesticated/farmed animals to milk. Hard to milk a wild bison

I'm totally curious as to what your ideas are about the origins of life ...but methinks that's a whole other thread! I get the sense you're not into creationism either. Flying spaghetti monster? (wait...that's not paleo)

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Aha...a fellow convert!

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I don't know that animal husbandry necessarily requires domesticated animals, many hunters learn to live off of specific herds of beasts and are selective in what animals they cull. When you consider Laplanders and their relationship with Reindeer and Innu with Caribou, I don't think it would have been to much of a stretch to imagine primitive peoples "capturing" animals, though likely not bison, if only to keep them on the hoof and the meat fresh a little longer. I imagine there could have been some opportunistic milk utilization... maybe like this:

But I don't imagine primitive peoples would have bothered making a serious go of dairy, when they had so much beast to eat.

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LOL! Good picture! I think if there was any evidence of a special relationship between paleo man and milk cattle, we'd know it by now.

Wild cow milking (not dairy cattle) is a rodeo sport: http://www.brazosport.cc.tx.us/~jed...ildcowmilk.html

I would never stand behind a cow or any ruminant like that!

This picture should be proof enough for anyone who thinks wild milking went on during the Paleolithic. I'm sure the "hunters" would expend more energy than gained from drinking the milk; ruminants are fond of kicking, and I'm sure brain injuries, broken limbs, internal bleeding, and gangrene would have kept this idea in check and left for the loony rednecks of the tribe.

I really enjoyed reading about the Nez Perce and the camas.

It has always fascinated me that the Aboriginals eat witchety grubs. Just out of curiosity, are there non-Aboriginals today who find wichety grubs a delicacy? Like here, rattle snake meat is prized by some foodies.

In interests of full disclosure: I once ate chocolate covered ants--they were very crunchy!

We were just talking about that the other day
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=353773

Yes plenty of witchetty grubs still get eaten. So, you don't consume dairy because you don't think ancient man would have ? Or is it because there is something in the milk or milk fat that is dodgy? And is it just cows, or do goats get the flick, too?

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