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Old Tue, Aug-07-07, 15:37
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hoping someone can clear my confusion...

I take whey protein because due to "intestinal problems", I could not tolerate much more than protein, and because of the GLUTAMINE, as it helps repair my intestinal lining and tissue. I have been drinking 1 a day, but recently have become 'addicted' to the "eveil protein cookie/cake", and am eating too much...I know this. And, I know this must stop!

Anyway, I noticed on the container it states "DO NOT USE FOR WEIGHT REDUCTION". I went to the HFS today looking for an unflavored whey and it had the same statement. Hmm...could this be causing my stall...which is slowly turning into a gain???

My alternative medicine doc is helping greatly in repairing my weak immune system and gut, and I am now s-l-o-w-l-y starting to exercise again, but by NO MEANS to the extent that I used to, in fact what I am calling exercising now, I used to laugh at others when they would consider it actually working out. Guess I learned my lesson, huh?

Anyways, so I don't take the whey to repair muscle tissue, but for the reasons stated above, and...well because I love the taste! I'm wondering though, if it is causing weight gain. I felt it was "okay" as long as I stayed around 125gr of protein a day, but now I'm wondering if I'm sabatoging myself??

Any thoughts are greatly appreciated

-Julie
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Old Tue, Aug-07-07, 15:42
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Our bodies are all different. Whey protein could be a problem for you, or it might not be. Or maybe you're including the whey in too many items that are too high in carbs and/or fat, or that contain other foods that cause you to stall.
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Old Tue, Aug-07-07, 15:47
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If the calories you consume are more than the calories you burn, you will gain weight, even from protein.

BulkNutrition DOT com sells powdered Glutamine, with nothing added.

Almost all the containers of whey I've had said "DO not use for weight reduction", that doesn't mean anything.

Do some reading about nutrition.
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Old Tue, Aug-07-07, 16:20
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Is your whey protein sweetened? If so, with what? Many are sweetened with fructose and you may be having trouble with that.
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Old Tue, Aug-07-07, 16:38
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Whey can also illicit an insulin response..
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Old Wed, Aug-08-07, 02:13
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Yeah, what CVH and GSD said. If you're eating fewer calories than you burn, you will not gain fat, and be sure to check your powder's ingredient listing.

There's no magic to whey powder....it's just a protein source, like any other. However, if you are sensitive to dairy, you might have an inflammation response to whey, causing you to hold water, which would show an increase in scale weight. But remember, weight gain or loss does not necessarily equal FAT gain or loss.

Finally, if you're experiencing gut/intestinal problems right now, that could also cause you to hold water.
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Old Wed, Aug-08-07, 06:39
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thanks for all your thoughts!

Yes, my whey is sweetened w/ sucralose and I am concerned that it is a trigger for me (either the sweetner or the whey).

Because of the enzymes in this product, and the emzymes I take, neither the dairy nor anything about this product, bothers me or causes inflammation

I try to stay btwn 1000-1500 cals a day, never go over 20gr of carbs, not to strict with fat, but try to limit protein to 125-135gr a day.

Yes, CVH, I know that if you take in more than you burn, you will gain...even with protein. I have a container of just glutamine.

Well...I know for a fact that some of this is water weight, I am VERY sensitive to sodium, and have overindulged...I can "feel" it. And, I know I must just put the whey container DOWN for now...it was becoming an evening dessert obsession for me...damn evil protein cookies!!

Julie
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Old Mon, Sep-24-07, 10:25
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Whey can also illicit an insulin response..


this is the issue

whey should only be used just after workouts. switch to casein as a mrp, it digests slower.
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Old Mon, Sep-24-07, 12:10
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I recently started using 1 scoop of whey in a fruit flavored (no sugar) drink for my breakfast. It says it has 3 gm carb and that's really all I looked at. I had no idea it might cause weight gain. I read somewhere that it might help with arthritis, and when I saw it was LC, I thought it would be a good powdered protein drink. Yikes! Where do I find the recipe for these 'evil cookies' you are referring too?
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Old Tue, Oct-23-07, 21:19
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I'm just now learning about the (detailed) low-carb way of life, and I have questions on this same subject.
My take on the 'do not use for weight reduction' statement on whey protein labels was that it must be intended as a diet supplement, not a substitute because it lacks vital nutrients and fiber.
You know anything ending with 'ose' is a sugar. AND Stevia (the artificial sweetener) proved to be a powerful trigger for me and others I know. just for a heads up
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Old Wed, Oct-24-07, 17:54
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most of those "not for weight reduction" disclaimers are intended to keep you from using it as a meal replacement for all your meals of the day because it is not fortified with appropriate vitamins and minerals - not that you cannot drink it if you are intended to lose weight.
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Old Wed, Oct-24-07, 21:57
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i always use whey protein as my suplemen,but i don't have any problems with that.whey is low in fat,n can build up my muscle....i've used whey for 4 years...but my abs always lean,it's prove that whey dont make me fat....
but if u eat calorie more than ur maintance calorie,of course it can make u fat...(sorry broken english)
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Old Sun, Nov-04-07, 14:45
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Finally somone seeing the light, yes yes yes you are right whey protein does cause weight gain.

When i was training serously to build muscles i used to drink three whey protein shake a day, with my regular meals and i was gaining fat, around the wast.

I went to the pro shop where i bough the protein and the guy told me that i was just not burning up the extra protein and thats why i was putting on weight.

What a lie, i did some research on HIV positive people and whey protein, theses studies are real it is quit true that whey protein does have some benefits on the immune system and this goes for chimotherapy has well it will promote weight gains.
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Old Sun, Nov-04-07, 20:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bodyfat
..."whey dont make me fat....
but if u eat calorie more than ur maintance calorie,of course it can make u fat...(sorry broken english)"


Amen!
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Old Mon, Nov-05-07, 02:04
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Finally somone seeing the light, yes yes yes you are right whey protein does cause weight gain.

When i was training serously to build muscles i used to drink three whey protein shake a day, with my regular meals and i was gaining fat, around the wast.

I went to the pro shop where i bough the protein and the guy told me that i was just not burning up the extra protein and thats why i was putting on weight.

What a lie, i did some research on HIV positive people and whey protein, theses studies are real it is quit true that whey protein does have some benefits on the immune system and this goes for chimotherapy has well it will promote weight gains.

Actually, the guy at your pro shop was mostly right--if you're eating more than you need, or not burning off all you eat, you will gain weight. It doesn't matter if you overeat whey protein powder or chicken breasts.

If whey protein powder in itself caused weight gain, how can you explain the MANY people who use it while losing fat? I use it myself, and my fat loss is good and steady.
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