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Old Wed, Jun-27-07, 07:59
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What does coconut count as? A fruit or a nut?

Also I just looked at the stick at the top of the forum and it said to avoid sweet potato but my book has a 'G' under phase 2 for it.

Which is more up to date? Is it to be had or avoided?

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Old Wed, Jun-27-07, 08:28
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What does coconut count as? A fruit or a nut?

Also I just looked at the stick at the top of the forum and it said to avoid sweet potato but my book has a 'G' under phase 2 for it.

Which is more up to date? Is it to be had or avoided?

2/3
According to the official site, coconut is not allowed until maintenance. However, you can use reduced-fat coconut milk in small amounts on Phase 2. Explanation in this thread: http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=321709

Interestingly, the Cook's Thesaurus classes the coconut as a tropical fruit, but suggests substitutes in the form of macadamia and or brazil nuts!

According to Wikipedia: botanically, a coconut is a simple dry fruit known as a fibrous drupe (not a true nut).

With regard to the sweet potato, you were probably looking at the Phase 1 list. It is to be avoided during Phase 1, but is included in the Starches to introduce in Phase 2:

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STARCHES
(Start with one daily serving, gradually increase to 3 total servings daily.) Unless otherwise stated, choose whole grain products that have 3 grams of fiber or more per ounce.

Bagels, small, whole grain - 1/2, or 1 oz.
Barley - 1/2 cup
Bread - 1 slice (1 oz.)
homemade breads using whole grains (buckwheat, whole wheat, spelt, whole oats, bran, rye)
multigrain
oat and bran
rye
sourdough (may be used, but whole grain is the best choice)
sprouted grain
whole wheat
Buckwheat - 1/2 cup cooked
Calabaza - 3/4 cup (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)
Cassava - 1/4 cup (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)
Cereal:
]Hot - 1/3 -1/2 cup, uncooked. Choose whole grain and slow-cooking varieties (no instant types).
Cold - 30 grams/1 ounce/3/4 cup. Varieties with 3.0 - 4.9 grams are “good” sources of fiber. “High” fiber cereals have 5.0 grams of fiber or more per serving. Choose a cereal with enough fiber to be at least on the upper end of “good,” and make sure it has less than 8 grams of sugar per serving.
Couscous, whole-wheat or Israeli - 1/2 cup cooked
Crackers, whole grain with 3 grams of fiber or more per ounce and no trans fats
English muffins, whole grain - 1/2, or 1 oz. (most contain 2.5 grams of fiber per half a muffin—varieties varieties with 3 grams of fiber are the best choice.)
Green Peas - 1/2 cup (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)
Muffins, bran - 1 small, homemade
Muffin, sugar-free (no raisins)
Pasta:
Whole wheat is best choice - 1/2 cup cooked (3 grams of fiber or more per 1/2 cup)
Soy is second best choice - 1/2 cup cooked (3 grams of fiber or more per 1/2 cup)
Pita - 1/2, or 1 oz. stone-ground whole wheat (most contain 2.5 grams of fiber—varieties with 3 grams of fiber are the best choice.)
Popcorn, 3 cups popped:
Air popped
Microwave, plain, no trans fats
Cooked stove-top with canola oil
Potato, sweet, small (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)
Pumpkin - 3/4 cup (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)
Quinoa, 1/2 cup cooked
Rice - 1/2 cup cooked:
basmati
brown
converted or parboiled
wild
Rice noodles - 1/2 cup cooked
Soba noodles - 3/4 cup cooked
Taro - 1/3 cup (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)
Tortillas, 100% whole grain, 3 grams of fiber or more per ounce, no trans fats - 1 small
Winter squash - 3/4 cup (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)
Yams, small (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)
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Old Wed, Jun-27-07, 09:08
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Thanks for answering.
Perhaps I was looking at the phase 1 list.

I was a bit worried as I bought some sweet potatoes in the shop yesterday and was planning to have some for dinner tonight.

I'll give the coconut a skip for now.

I was just trying to spruce up my flaxmeal muffins a bit.

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Old Wed, Jun-27-07, 17:00
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Mmm...coconut in flaxmeal muffins sounds yummy! (Come to think of it, a little sweet potato in flaxmeal muffins sounds pretty good, too!)
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Old Wed, Jun-27-07, 17:40
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Sorry, messed up my post.

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Old Wed, Jun-27-07, 17:43
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[QUOTE=2of3]

I was just trying to spruce up my flaxmeal muffins a bit.

How about adding some coconut extract! No fat or calories!!
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Old Wed, Jun-27-07, 18:20
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[QUOTE=2of3]

I was just trying to spruce up my flaxmeal muffins a bit.

How about adding some coconut extract! No fat or calories!!


A dash of cinnamon and bit of maple extract can give it a french toast flare.
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Old Thu, Jun-28-07, 01:38
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Mmm...coconut in flaxmeal muffins sounds yummy! (Come to think of it, a little sweet potato in flaxmeal muffins sounds pretty good, too!)


yep. I'll probably try adding sweet potato at some stage.

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Old Thu, Jun-28-07, 05:56
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The thing is, I don't think we have so many different flavour extract here. I looked in my local supermarket and could only find vanilla extract (which I currently use), peppermint and chocolate.

Nothing normal like banana or maple. I'd love those.

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Old Thu, Jun-28-07, 07:19
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The thing is, I don't think we have so many different flavour extract here. I looked in my local supermarket and could only find vanilla extract (which I currently use), peppermint and chocolate.

Nothing normal like banana or maple. I'd love those.

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I bet if you Google them, you'll be able to buy them online.
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Old Thu, Jun-28-07, 07:50
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Here's a site with a ton of them. Enjoy
http://www.netrition.com/davinci_syrups_page.html
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Old Thu, Jun-28-07, 08:37
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I bet if you Google them, you'll be able to buy them online.
Unfortunately, it's very difficult to find much of a selection of food flavourings etc in the UK, even online. However, Lakeland Limited do have a limited supply of extracts: vanilla, almond, ginger, lemon and chocolate.

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Here's a site with a ton of them. Enjoy
http://www.netrition.com/davinci_syrups_page.html
LOL, do you know how much it costs to have stuff shipped to the UK from the US??!!

Actually, there is a limited supply of DaVinci syrups in the UK available from the Low Carb Megastore: http://www.lowcarbmegastore.com/
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Old Thu, Jun-28-07, 08:41
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The thing is, I don't think we have so many different flavour extract here. I looked in my local supermarket and could only find vanilla extract (which I currently use), peppermint and chocolate.

Nothing normal like banana or maple. I'd love those.

2/3
Have you thought about using a banana-flavoured whey protein? I've made muffins with it in the past and you can taste the banana flavour.
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Old Thu, Jun-28-07, 10:03
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Why protein comes in such huge tubs. I still only a quarter way through the vanilla one I bought about 5 weeks ago and I use the thing nearly every day.

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Old Thu, Jun-28-07, 17:47
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I had sweet potato for dinner tonight. 60g of sweetpotato is so little. It was half of a small one and by the time i mashed it I had a tablespoon of mash.

But I was happy with is as I had my usually 2 cups of mixed vegetables with it and I roasted a lovely sea bream with onions and tomatoes.

so it really only was a side dish.

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