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Old Mon, Mar-19-07, 06:37
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Thanks so much for the explanations Kevin. I'm aiming for breads without too many specialty ingredients, such as carbolose. 'What's in most people's cupboard' type of recipes.
Wow, I'm amazed the WPI has less carbs. My gluten has 8g per 100g.

Babs, that's so great! I know that bread has made a world of difference to low carbing for me. A life saver. Have you thought about trying oat flour in place of soya? Raises the carbs, but not too much. I've only tried half oat half soya so far. I think entirely oatworks out about 5g per slice, so still not bad.

My machine sounds like it can handle more programs than yours, I also don't need any lubricant to remove the bread, but, I can't remove the paddle. Darn that hole!

I will try a longer knead cycle, see how that works for me. Anything that gets the rbead to me sooner sounds good to me.

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Old Mon, Mar-19-07, 17:19
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Nica, I experimented again today and replaced the soya flour with carbalose - I also replaced 30 gms of the gluten flour with carbalose too (I find too much gluten flour makes the bread spongey and whangey). Well, it was a great success - the slices were humungous - and no soy taste. I had to start the bake cycle after only 30 minutes of rising, so a big time saving. I know that carbalose isn't exactly 'off the shelf', but it is available in the UK online and I use it a lot for other things - and at 19gms per 100gms it's a reasonable deal carbwise, unlike the oatflour, which is a bit steep at 70gms per 100gms.
I'm very pleased with this recipe now - even DH ate it tonight (a minor miracle) It makes a nice change from my other bread, which is more seedy and brown. Thanks for starting me experimenting again. Variety is definitely the spice of LC life
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Old Wed, Mar-21-07, 07:05
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Glad that combo worked for you.

It's always a good sign with the DH likes it. Mine isn't allowed to touch it, he has his own HC stuff, although I do allow tastings of all experiments. Someone has to be the guinea pig.

oh, and what do you guys mean by 'whangey'?
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Old Wed, Mar-21-07, 18:36
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'Whang' is a nebulous combination of taste and smell, which is not pleasant, but not totally obnoxious either. Soy flour has a whang to me - and so does carbalose and gluten flour, though not as much as soy. Carbquik is not bad at all - maybe I'll try it in the bread next. I really need to post a picture of the slices I get - they are HUGE!
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Old Sun, Mar-25-07, 12:10
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Well, I have all the ingredients needed for this bread in my netrition.com shopping basket, should be placing the order today so hopefully I will have this stuff in a couple days and be able to give this bread a try .
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Anyone ever try this without gluten?
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Old Sun, Feb-01-09, 18:07
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I just made this bread and it is sooooo good!!!!

I didn't have any Soy Flour so I subbed 42.5g of 1/2 oat flour and 42.5g of 1/2 oat Fiber.

I didn't have any Flax so I subbed 20 grams of bean flour (I ground a handful of small red beans in my coffee grinder)

No bran either so I ground 10g of whole wheat berries in my coffee grinder...left the whole Flax seeds out because I didn't have any flax.

I followed the recipe the rest of the way and it turned out really good. I let it rise a little too long so it shrunk just a tad on the bottom of the loaf when I took it out of the oven but that was my fault.

I will definitely be making this again. Thanks so much for the recipe.

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Originally Posted by Nica
I hope this isn't too redundant around here, but it took many experiments to get this right and it might help another baking-newbie out.

Makes a lovely textured bread, similar to those half and half we get in UK (half white, half wholemeal). At only 36g carbs for whole loaf, I'm really pleased with this!

Mon’s LC Bread Machine Loaf 1

160g (5.6oz) Vital Wheat Gluten
85g (3oz) Soya Flour *
45g (1.6 oz) Almond flour (finely ground almonds)
20g (.7 oz) Flax meal (finely ground flax seeds) **
10g (.35 oz) Bran
5g (.2 oz) whole Flax seeds
1 medium Egg
½ tsp Salt ***
2 tsp Sugar ****
1 tsp Splenda *****
1 ½ tsp Yeast (dry, rapid acting) ******
240ml (16 tbs) Water, lukewarm. *******

[Measurements are in British metric. I’ve included the ones in brackets as a guide, but please check with an online converter.]

Mix together all dry ingredients except yeast.
Beat egg with water, salt and sugars and add to your machine’s pan.
Add flour mix on top of water so it mostly floats.
Make a little dip/well on top and add yeast. (Basically, follow our machine’s instructions).

Machine process:
5 min warming.
3 min mix.
7 min knead. (I need to check it’s mixing well)
Soon as kneading is completed, I pat it down into a shape fitting the whole pan, as it's usually just a ball.
60-70 min rise. (Should approximately double in size)
35-45 min bake.

Nutrition per loaf (Fitday):
Carbs:36-37 Fat:61 Protein:187 Cals:942

Notes:

* Community brand (UK) – 16g carbs per 100g
** Linusit (UK) – 6g carbs per 100g
*** Best to use non-iodised. Too much salt will kill the yeast action.
**** The yeast ‘eats’ the sugar, so there’s no need to count these carbs at all! If you’re weary and use as much as I do, count half the carbs. But honestly, there’s no need to. I've not counted the sugar at all in the final nutritional value.
***** I find a little Splenda improves the flavour, making it closer to commercial wheat bread.
****** You can ‘proof’ (check) your yeast first if has less than a few months of shelf life left. Put into water and sugar and check it bubbles. Otherwise, dry yeast with a plenty of shelf life left won’t need this.
******* Adjust your water temp, making it a little warmer if you don’t have the warming option on your machine.

I managed 13 medium thick slices from this, coming to 2.7-3 carbs per slice. An electric slicer has been a worthwhile purchase for all this lc bread!

Finally, you can play around with the soya flour and flaxmeal quantities. More flaxmeal tends to make a bread closer to wholemeal. If you add quite a lot of flax meal, you might not need the egg.
If you're not so keen on soya flour, it works well half soya and half oat flour (finely ground oats).



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Old Thu, Feb-19-09, 14:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nica
I hope this isn't too redundant around here, but it took many experiments to get this right and it might help another baking-newbie out.

Makes a lovely textured bread, similar to those half and half we get in UK (half white, half wholemeal). At only 36g carbs for whole loaf, I'm really pleased with this!

Mon’s LC Bread Machine Loaf 1

160g (5.6oz) Vital Wheat Gluten
85g (3oz) Soya Flour *
45g (1.6 oz) Almond flour (finely ground almonds)
20g (.7 oz) Flax meal (finely ground flax seeds) **
10g (.35 oz) Bran
5g (.2 oz) whole Flax seeds
1 medium Egg
½ tsp Salt ***
2 tsp Sugar ****
1 tsp Splenda *****
1 ½ tsp Yeast (dry, rapid acting) ******
240ml (16 tbs) Water, lukewarm. *******

[Measurements are in British metric. I’ve included the ones in brackets as a guide, but please check with an online converter.]

Mix together all dry ingredients except yeast.
Beat egg with water, salt and sugars and add to your machine’s pan.
Add flour mix on top of water so it mostly floats.
Make a little dip/well on top and add yeast. (Basically, follow our machine’s instructions).

Machine process:
5 min warming.
3 min mix.
7 min knead. (I need to check it’s mixing well)
Soon as kneading is completed, I pat it down into a shape fitting the whole pan, as it's usually just a ball.
60-70 min rise. (Should approximately double in size)
35-45 min bake.

Nutrition per loaf (Fitday):
Carbs:36-37 Fat:61 Protein:187 Cals:942

Notes:

* Community brand (UK) – 16g carbs per 100g
** Linusit (UK) – 6g carbs per 100g
*** Best to use non-iodised. Too much salt will kill the yeast action.
**** The yeast ‘eats’ the sugar, so there’s no need to count these carbs at all! If you’re weary and use as much as I do, count half the carbs. But honestly, there’s no need to. I've not counted the sugar at all in the final nutritional value.***** I find a little Splenda improves the flavour, making it closer to commercial wheat bread.
****** You can ‘proof’ (check) your yeast first if has less than a few months of shelf life left. Put into water and sugar and check it bubbles. Otherwise, dry yeast with a plenty of shelf life left won’t need this.
******* Adjust your water temp, making it a little warmer if you don’t have the warming option on your machine.

I managed 13 medium thick slices from this, coming to 2.7-3 carbs per slice. An electric slicer has been a worthwhile purchase for all this lc bread!

Finally, you can play around with the soya flour and flaxmeal quantities. More flaxmeal tends to make a bread closer to wholemeal. If you add quite a lot of flax meal, you might not need the egg.
If you're not so keen on soya flour, it works well half soya and half oat flour (finely ground oats).





This looks wonderful! And I notice no one else commented about your statement that the yeast eats the sugar. I certainly never knew that. Wow! I had been trying to make bread with Splenda & I think that is why it doesn't rise properly. I have a marvelous oatmeal bread recipe, but leaving the sugar out seems to mess it up
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Old Thu, Mar-12-09, 09:52
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Gosh, I just realized this is in metric or in ounces. Anyone already have it converted to cups and measuring spoons?
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