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Old Sat, Sep-08-01, 23:43
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Default WEek 3, Day 6, Saturday, September 8

Day in Cycle: 6
Week: 3
Day: Saturday, September 8, 2001
Today’s Program: Highly Irregular LC

Foods eaten:

2 black coffees
1 Tbsp. Udo's Oil
1 chicken leg
3 oz. cucumber
Tofu with cocoa and DV coconut syrup
1 oz. pork rinds
1 HB egg with Bernaise mayonnaise
Cream cheese w/whipping cream and strawberries
1 iced espresso w/ giant globs of whipped cream
1 Tbsp. Udo's oil
6 oz. rare marlin, 2 cups bok choy
Cream cheese, cocoa and whipping cream

Total: 2873
Fat: 241 2171 75%
Carbs: 45 139 5%
Fiber: 10 0 0%
Protein: 142 569 20%
Carbs - Fiber: 35
Cals per Pound: 18.1

Wasn't I saying something last week about calorie reduction? Didn't I talk of things balancing themselves out...?

Activity: The usual

Weight: 155
Measurements: N/A

Thoughts:

The day started off normally and then I totally lost my wits. A TOM reaction with a two day lag. Aargh~! No, it's those active smiley heads to my left that made me do it!

I wanted dairy and artificial sweetener, I ate dairy and artificial sweetener. I knew I would feel like crap, and now I do. It's good to be reminded of why I stopped eating dairy.

Ahh, artificial sweetener embedded in dairy. The LC methadone.

Things to remember for next month: Up the magnesium intake a week before and eat canned tuna with mayonnaise.

The sun will rise on another day...

Be prepared for water weight on top of water weight. LOL!
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Old Sun, Sep-09-01, 06:50
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Karen, this must be a typo error?

"Weight: 185"


Regards
Joe
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Old Sun, Sep-09-01, 08:13
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Default Re: WEek 3, Day 6, Saturday, September 8

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Originally posted by Karen
Today’s Program: Highly Irregular LC
Weight: 185


Wow, I'd say.
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Old Sun, Sep-09-01, 08:27
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Default indeed!

Just goes to prove my thoughts that the Calorie Boost days of this Study-project would be very easy to achieve if high-fat dairy foods were permitted. Too easy in fact, since a huge whack o' calories and saturated fat can be consumed with a very small amount of food.

re - TOM, and fluid retention ... cutting way back on sodium and upping the potassium will definitely help. Sodium & potassium are fluid-balance partners. After the study ... might want to consider keeping up the extra Tbsp Udo's oil for the days prior and during. Use the EFA's prescriptively. I know I will be

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Old Sun, Sep-09-01, 09:04
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Whoops! I'll correct that weight! Thanks Joe and Nat.

Eating all that creamy sweet stuff made me feel 30 pounds heavier!

Quote:
After the study ... might want to consider keeping up the extra Tbsp Udo's oil for the days prior and during. Use the EFA's prescriptively. I know I will be


I am going to continue with the oil on a daily basis. My skin has started to look really good and I attribute it to that. My brain function may have improved somewhat, but it's hard to tell.

The tuna with mayo during and upping magnesium prior was something I read about. It may work.

Karen
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Old Mon, Sep-10-01, 00:30
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Day in Cycle: 7
Week: 3
Day: Sunday, September 9, 2001
Today’s Program: Regular LC

Foods eaten:

2 black coffees
1 Tbsp. Udo's Oil
6 oz. salmon, spinach, balsamic vinaigrette
1 espresso
Beef sausage, a few wedges tomato, mesclun greens, rabbit pate
1 espresso
3 oz. pork rinds
1 Americano
Went to Wild Rice for dinner again: beef, rabbit, bok choy, mushrooms, boar, egg, long beans, winter melon, cucumber, tofu, green tea

Total: 1708
Fat: 112 gr = 1006 cals = 60%
Carbs: 52 gr = 138 cals = 8%
Fiber: 17 gr = 0 cals = 0%
Protein: 132 gr = 529 cals = 32%
Carbs-Fiber: 35
Cals per Pound: 10.87

Activity:
Weight: 157
Measurements: N/A

Thoughts:

More "normal", but carbs were high due, to eating out.

Spent the day as a volunteer chef at a benefit for FarmFolk/ City Folk out at UBC. Beautiful day to be outside!
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Old Tue, Sep-11-01, 00:17
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Day in Cycle: 1
Week: 4
Day: Monday, September 10, 2001
Today’s Program: Regular LC

Foods eaten:

2 black coffees
2 chicken wings, 1 HB egg
2 oz. pork rinds
2 Americanos
Cabbage, green bean and pork confit salad w/creamy tarragon dressing; HB eggs w/celery and anchovy dressing; roasted tomatoes w/basil; roasted small onions w/ truffle paste; parsley and olive salad; bluberries, strawberries, raspberries with tofu chocolate and almond cream

Total: 2521
Fat: 199 gr = 1788 cals = 71%
Carbs: 68 gr = 195 cals = 8%
Fiber: 20 gr = 0 cals = 0%
Protein: 133 gr = 532 cals = 21%
Carbs - Fiber: 48
Cals per Pound: 16.05

Activity: Dog walking and cooking

Weight: N/A
Measurements: N/A

Thoughts:

Today was the 1 year anniversary of Tobias becoming a part of the family. A grand celebration was in order. He's now wrecking a squeaky ball that he recieved as a gift.

I am beginning to see what works and what doesn't work. Obviously, entertaining, eating out and bingeing on dairy don't work as witnessed by week 1 and week three. Eating a great assortment of food in one day doesn't work, not to mention the grand uppage of carbs and calories that comes with it. I've also discovered that tofu is not a good thing for me to eat, probably something to do with it being a protein as well as a carb. I don't eat beans, so why do I eat tofu? Berries are not a good idea either.

Four pounds were lost during test drive week and four more during week two. I ate more simply during those weeks.

Change eating behaviour, scrutinize and learn! Einstein said it best.
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Old Tue, Sep-11-01, 18:50
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Default Week 3, Day 2, Tuesday, September 11, 2001

Day in Cycle: 2
Week: 4
Day: Tuesday, September 11, 2001
Today’s Program: Fat Fast

Foods eaten:

2 coffees
1 Tbsp. Udo's Oil
Gelatin loaf
1 Americano


Total: 1182
Fat: 112 1007 86% 29%
Carbs: 17 33 3%
Fiber: 8 0 0%
Protein: 34 135 12%
Carbs - Fiber: 9
Cals per Pound: 7.57

Activity: Working, dog walking

Weight: N/A
Measurements: N/A

Thoughts:

Healing thoughts and prayers today.
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Old Thu, Sep-13-01, 01:17
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Day in Cycle: 3
Week: 4
Day: Wednesday, September 12, 2001
Today’s Program: Calorie Boost
Foods eaten:

2 coffees
1 Tbsp. Udo's Oil
1 Chicken leg
10 oz. sirloin steak, 2 Tbsp. lemon mayonnaise
6 oz. tuna, 1 1/2 cups Swiss Chard
1 Americano
1 Americano
1 Tbsp Udo's oil
1/4 head radicchio with pancetta dressing
1 chicken leg, a big shwack of broccoli braised with garlic, chilies and anchovies

Total: 2385
Fat: 146 1312 57%
Carbs: 31 65 3%
Fiber: 15 0 0%
Protein: 231 925 40%
Cals per pound: 15.28
Carbs - Fiber: 16

Activity: Working, dog walking, teaching

Weight: N/A
Measurements: N/A

Thoughts:

I was starving today! Last night, I couldn't wait to go to sleep so I could wake up and have a chicken leg. Was also feeling kind of sluggish and had a headache all day till I ate the last meal.

Inspired by Doreen's broccoli recipe, I remembered an Italian dish of broccoli slow cooked with chilies, anchovies and garlic until it is falling apart. I used a whole head of broccoli and was able to eat half. Ate a non green vegetable but am OK with it because the carbs from the broccoli and chard totalled 27 grams.

My vegetarian sister told me yesterday that she has been following the Soya Zone after we saw each other in Toronto and discussed it. She has lost 4 pounds and feels much clearer. I'm tickled pink!

I dread and enjoy Fat Fast. A big water drop happens during it, probably gained from all the stuff I eat on the 3 Regular LC days - especially last week!.

I would probably enjoy it more if I actually made teeny, fatty meals for myself instead of eating bowls of jellied white slop, but I'm afraid I won't be able to control the teeny, fatty portions.

Still mulling over all the changes that yesterdays unbelievable tragedy will bring...It is almost too large to wrap my brain around it.
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Old Fri, Sep-14-01, 01:24
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Day in Cycle: 4
Week: 4
Day: Thursday, September 13, 2001
Today’s Program: Stillman

Foods eaten:

2 coffees
1 chicken breast
1 americano
12 oz. halibut with lemon and chives
1 Americano
12 oz. halibut with lemon and chives

Total: 923
Fat: 18 158 18%
Carbs: 4 17 2%
Fiber: 0 0 0%
Protein: 174 698 80%
Cals per pound: 5.91
Carbs - Fiber: 0

Activity: Working, dog walking

Weight: N/A
Measurements: N/A

Thoughts:

I've been trying to choose between Fat Fast and Stillman to incorporate as part of my program when the study is finished. Stillman gets my vote.

Tomorrow is weight report.
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Old Fri, Sep-14-01, 17:50
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Plan: Atkins,PP - wgt in %
Stats: 100/96.8/69 Female 5'6.5"
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Progress: 10%
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Default but but but...

I'm thinking a mini-study or tapering off process would allow some testing cuz in the back of my head is forming the notion that
- FF forces ketosis restart using bodily body fat as insufficient energy intake (kickstart)
- CB of course tells metabolism no famine in offing so pending or slight drop, if any, is reversed
- M&VF (meat & veg fast or Stillman) drops energy intake again, with no protein loss yet triggered (it may well take longer than ketosis start) and no appetite issues (enhances or triggers glucagon/ketosis cycle whilst allowing gluconeogenesis hence no hunger)
etc. etc.

Soooooooo I'm thinking a mini study 1 week with 2 M&VFs (no FF) and with CB target set to 13Xgoal and see what happens.

Comments? Should this be in the main thread?
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Old Fri, Sep-14-01, 22:22
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Default study report

Will you be posting a 'coles notes version' of the study? I've been reading along and picking up ideas here and there for later on down the road (and for now). A set of guidelines or some kind of FAQ would be very helpful.... of course that would entail more work ... just an idea.

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Old Fri, Sep-14-01, 22:49
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I'm not sure about FF kick starting ketosis because - according to Dr. A - you have to be in ketosis already for it to work.

Now my danger spots are obvious to me.

I'm thinking of doing two all protein days a week, but something like an all-salmon or all-beef day to keep the calories up.

The discussion should be moved into it's own thread since it's almost the end of the study.

Karen
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Old Fri, Sep-14-01, 22:52
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Will you be posting a 'coles notes version' of the study?


I'm thinking that everyone can post their own thoughts with what worked, what didn't work etc.

Everyone eats so differently that it would be hard to make generalizations.

I started my own spreadsheet today for all the technical stuff.

Karen
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Old Fri, Sep-14-01, 23:05
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Day in Cycle: 5
Week: 4
Day: Friday, September 14, 2001
Today’s Program: Cal Boost

Foods eaten:

2 coffees
1 chicken breast and wing, 1/2 bunch braised broccoli
1 Tbsp. Udo's oil
10 oz. sirloin with wasabi, soy and chives
1 Tbsp. Udo's oil
2 HB eggs, 1/2 lb. finely chopped spinach, 3 Tbsp. Lemon garlic dressing
1 Americano
1 Tbsp. Udo's oil
3 eggs scrambled in 1 Tbsp. duck fat with 1 Tbsp. pesto

Total: 2148
Fat: 144 1300 63%
Carbs: 35 65 3%
Fiber: 19 0 0%
Protein: 175 701 34%
Cals per pound: 13.9
Carbs - Fiber: 16

Activity: Working, dog walking

Weight: 154
Measurements: N/A

Thoughts:

So, a cold sets in around 3:00 p.m. today. No wonder I was feeling so blah this week. I though it had something to do with fat fast 'cause that's when I felt worst.

Didn't think I'd make it on the cals today but made it!
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