My, my, my, the science of Anthropology is going through the
most exciting moments of its entire history. Before the end of
the 21st century, this science should be about 75% completed
and solved with the remaining 25% to fill in details. The
Stonethrowing Theory is the bulk of the understanding of
anthropology. Humanity is but a stonethrowing ape.

I heard the news on the BBC last night and felt compelled to
copy in full the below text from Reuters because I am going to
debate line for line some of the announcements.

--- quoting from Reuters on the Internet ---

Fossil Ape May Be Ancestor of All Apes - Report

Thu Nov 18, 3:08 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An ape that
lived 13 million years ago in what
is now Spain may have been the
last common ancestor of all apes,
including chimpanzees, gorillas,
orangutans and humans, researchers
said on Thursday.

The
fossil
provides
a missing
link, not
directly
between
humans
and an
apelike
ancestor,
but
between
great
apes and
lesser
apes such
as
gibbons,
the rese-
archers
said.

The crea-
ture,
named Pi-
erolapit-
hecus ca-
talaunic-
us, had a
stiff
lower
spine and
flexible
wrists
that
would
have made
it a tre-
e-climbi-
ng speci-
alist,
the rese-
archers
write in
this
week's
issue of
the
journal
Science.

"This
probably
is very
close to
the last
common
ancestor
of great
apes and
humans,"
said
Salvador
Moya-Sola
of the
Miguel
Crusafont
Institute
of Paleo-
ntology
in Barce-
lona,
Spain,
who led
the
study.

It would have looked something
like a modern chimpanzee and
probably ate fruit, said his
colleague Meike Kohler.

"It may have looked a little bit
in the face comparable to that of
a chimp but with some
differences," she said in a
telephone briefing.

"I would call it a missing link,
because it really fills a gap,"
she added.

About 25 million years ago, old
world monkeys, which now live
in Africa and Asia, split off
from the line that eventually
led to apes.

The great apes -- orangutans,
chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas
and humans -- are believed to
have branched off from the lesser
apes such as gibbons and siamangs
about 11 million to 16 million
years ago.

Humans branched off from
chimpanzees an estimated 7 million
years ago.

The researchers had just begun
digging at the site near Barcelona
when a bulldozer turned up the
first bits of the fossilized
skeleton. They immediately knew
they had something unique.

The animal's rib cage, spine and
wrist all looked like a great
ape's, specialized for climbing.
Monkeys, in contrast, while
excellent climbers, have more
general movement abilities and are
not so specialized.

But the new find has small hands,
unlike modern great apes.

"This newly discovered fossil, a
new ape species from Spain called
Pierolapithecus catalaunicus, or
its close relative, may have been
the last common ancestor of all
living great apes, or close to
that ancestor," said Brooks
Hanson, deputy editor for physical
sciences at Science magazine.

"Although this group includes
humans, it's important to
remember that we've had millions
of years of evolution since then,
she added." --- end quoting
Reuters ---

The biggest and nicest surprize from the above is that
Oreopithecus was southern Italy and Oreopithecus would
eventually become humanity via Orrorin on to homo species. It
all is connected by Stonethrowing and that Oreopithecus was
the first human ancestor to start a new behaviour on this
planet Earth. Some 8 to 10 million years ago a pre-
Oreopithecus began throwing rocks and stones which would
become a new species of Oreopithecus that Threw rocks and
stones and was changing its bone anatomy to bipedalism in
order to make Throwing even better. This Throwing species that
was becoming more biped would give rise to Orrorin which was
fully Throwing plus biped.

First Humanity was borne in Southern Europe of Oreopithecus
and then Orrorin would migrate into Africa. Finally, the most
skilled throwing humanlike species of pre-CroMagnon would give
rise to CroMagnon living in Africa and would move out of
Africa extincting all humanlike species less skilled in
Throwing, e.g. Neanderthal versus CroMagnon.

So the new item of above is further evidence or proof that the
Cradle of Humanity was not Africa but Southern Europe. Why is
it that Africa never yielded such ancient ape fossils such as
this? It is because these ancient apelike fossils do not exist
in Africa but exist in Southern Europe.

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Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:30:34 -0600 Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
(most cut)

  >
  > --- quoting from Reuters on the Internet ---
  >
  > Fossil Ape May Be Ancestor of All Apes - Report
  >
  > Thu Nov 18, 3:08 PM ET
  >
  > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An ape
  > that lived 13 million years ago
  > in what is now Spain may have
  > been the last common ancestor of
  > all apes, including chimpanzees,
  > gorillas,

Some years back I wrote that the Cradle of Humanity was
Southern Europe and the only evidence I had for the claim was
that Oreopithecus is from Italy.

But now I have more evidence of the claim with this recent
find in Spain.

Years back I marshalled the idea that species change occurs
more rapidly at the borders of a species territory. The idea
is that Africa was the center of primate habitat and had
reached as far north as southern-Europe. So Southern Europe
was the extreme northern border of primate territory. My
argument was that at the extreme borders or fringes of a
species habitat is the place most likely to give rise to the
creation of a new species of primates.

So the idea is that pre-apes lived mostly in Africa but had
southern europe as its northern most boundary. And that a new
species or several new species were created at this boundary
of habitat. And the first Throwing primates of Oreopithecus
also lived at these extreme edges of primate habitat where the
center of primates was central Africa.

It appears that enough of a skeleton of Pierolapithecus was
found to compare to Oreopithecus and we can thus begin to
measure the changes needed in bone morphology to turn a
Pierolapithecus into that of a Oreopithecus. The bone changes
should be mostly of bones used in Throwing such as
rotator-cuff and opposable thumb and arms.

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Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
  > My, my, my, the science of Anthropology is going through the
  > most exciting moments of its entire history.

I agree, and I think the pierolapithecus will ultimately be a
more important find than the floresiensis, as it narrows down
where we differentiated from the ancestors of the great apes,
the proverbial "missing link(s)". The 'hobbits' will be more
intriguing to the general public, though, and more
misunderstood.

mikelist wrote: (snip what I wrote)

  >
  > I agree, and I think the pierolapithecus will ultimately be
  > a more important find than the floresiensis, as it narrows
  > down where we differentiated from the ancestors of the great
  > apes, the proverbial "missing link(s)". The 'hobbits' will
  > be more intriguing to the general public, though, and more
  > misunderstood.

Here is one prediction of the Stonethrowing theory as related
to Pierolapithecus and Oreopithecus.

We know that humans throw both overarm and underarm and that
humans are bipeds. We know that chimps are quadraped and throw
only underarm. Thus, and therefore, if the Stonethrowing
theory is correct and I am fully confident that it is correct
than some skeletal fossil exists somewhere between
Pierolapithecus and Oreopithecus that is a species that threw
underarm yet was still quadraped.

From what I know of Oreopithecus and it maybe incorrect, is
that Oreopithecus was biped. That means from the standpoint of
the Stonethrowing theory that Oreopithecus was a full thrower
both underarm and overarm. So that means that there existed a
pre-Oreopithecus species whose skeleton morphology of the arms
and legs and Rotator Cuff and fingers are closely matching
that of modern day chimpanzee morphology with respect to the
bones of throwing underarm and still quadrapedal.

And I can even make an educated guess as to where this species
will be found since Pierolapithecus was found in Spain and
Oreopithecus found in southern Italy that if we draw a line
between the dig site in Spain and the dig site in southern
Italy that somewhere along that line is a dig site that will
find this "pithecus" species that resembles modern day
chimpanzee throwing morphology.

My, my, my, it is seldom that anthropology as a science can
make such pretty predictions.

But in the meantime we need to fully research the Throwing
ability of Oreopithecus and compare it with the throwing
abilities of Pierolapithecus.

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Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:49:11 -0600 Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

  >
  > And I can even make an educated guess as to where this
  > species will be found since Pierolapithecus was found in
  > Spain and Oreopithecus found in southern Italy that if we
  > draw a line between the dig site in Spain and the dig site
  > in southern Italy that somewhere along that line is a dig
  > site that will find this "pithecus" species that resembles
  > modern day chimpanzee throwing morphology.

On second thought, please do not hold me to a straight line
geography from Spain to Southern Italy because I do not know
what the landmasses looked like some 7 to 13 million years
ago. I do not know what the Mediter. Sea looked like. Perhaps
Italy and its islands were one land mass.

So this new species of pithecus that resembles modern day
chimpanzee in bone morphology of a quadraped that could throw
underarm I predict will be found in Europe whether in southern
Europe or in northern Europe or even maybe on a line drawn
from the digsite of Pierolapithecus to the digsite of
Oreopithecus.

The important thing is that if the Stonethrowing theory is
correct then Pierolapithecus evolved into a species much like
modern day chimpanzee that was a quadraped but was able to
throw underarm. Let me call it Underarmpithecus. This
Underarmpithecus would evolve to the ability to throw overarm
and let me call this new species Overarmpithecus.

So where in Europe both Underarmpithecus and Overarmpithecus
is found is not that important but it will be found in Europe.

Then the Overarmpithecus would evolve to become Oreopithecus
because Oreopithecus was a full overarm thrower of rocks and
was biped. The Throwing overarm created bipedalism out of
quadrapedalism.

And it would take 2 to 3 to 4 more million years to transform
the walking into running, but it is the Throwing that is the
driving behaviour for change.

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Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:27:05 -0600 Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

  >
  >
  > So where in Europe both Underarmpithecus and
  > Overarmpithecus is found is not that important but it will
  > be found in Europe.
  >
  > Then the Overarmpithecus would evolve to become Oreopithecus
  > because Oreopithecus was a full overarm thrower of rocks and
  > was biped. The Throwing overarm created bipedalism out of
  > quadrapedalism.
  >
  > And it would take 2 to 3 to 4 more million years to
  > transform the walking into running, but it is the Throwing
  > that is the driving behaviour for change.

It is highly likely that Oreopithecus itself was the
Overarmpithecus. And if so then the only other missing link
would be Underarmpithecus a descendent of Pierolapithecus ( a
shame they did not name this pithecus as Piezopithecus as the
"piero" reminds me of "piezo" as in piezoelectricity.)

But I am not so sure that modern day anthropologists are even
keen enough to see a difference in the RotatorCuff of
chimpanzees from that of gorilla or baboon or orangutan or
monkeys. I doubt whether more than a few persons in the
science community that studies primate bones is able to
recognize why the chimpanzee RotatorCuff is able to throw
underarm and only chimps and humans have that signature for
underarm throwing.

After reading the article on Pierolapithecus I doubt our
community of modern day anthropologists are even able to
distinguish different species of ape bones if found mixed up.
Is there a modern anthropologist if given 5 different
RotatorCuffs of 5 different ape species able to tell apart
those species?

The RotatorCuff of Oreopithecus, if found, has it been
determined whether Oreopithecus threw underarm? Threw overarm?

Likewise for Orrorin same questions.

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