Atkins+Low Carb equals Death


Atkins+Low Carb equals Death -- Posted by Steve Randy Shilts Bayt on 07-11-04 18:50
Preface: To those who have commented on my occassional grammar
mistakes. This is part of my social crusades. Not an English or
College Term Paper. I am not being paid, I am not selling anything.
And I am far more concerned with saving lives, then checking grammar.



STEVE BAYT
(Parma/Brook Park, Ohio)


JOHN HOPKINS UNIVERSITY Complete Guide For Preventing and Reversing
Heart Disease copyright1993 by Peter O. Kwiterwovich Jr. MD starts
tonight's article on Atkins Related Death Syndrome(ARDS):

"In one-third of all cases the first sign of coronary heart disease is
sudden, unexpected death. The victims are completely unaware of the
blockages in their coronary arteries until it is too late."

Tonight's pre-Kathryn Morris typed article uses information from a
place most newbie researchers, via THE NET, have probably not visited.
It's called a Library where there are shelves of books not about
Epidemic Diets like Atkins but books by hospitals, universities,
health organizations which have little financial interest but instead
offer real information.

For those who have never been in a library there are things that are
like website addresses but are called Library call numbers which have
a code called THE DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM. The John Hopkins book's call
number is NF616.123. Those who have been brainwashed by Atkins
marketing or have a potential loved one doomed to have an Atkins
Related Heart Attack (ARHA) should spend an afternoon researching the
fatal consequences of following The Atkins Death Sentence.

Consumer Reports June 2002 page 30 foreshadows ARDS " For nearly 30
years, the nutrition establishment has denounced the diet promulgated
by Dr. Robert C. Atkins for it's unsound, high-fat, ultra low
carbohydrate regimen.

As recently as last year an expert panel of nutritionist convened by
the American Heart Association condemned it a ineffective and very
possibly a health hazard."

I don't really care about one-line brain dead responding to these
article, for when Atkins loved ones and their possible ARDS fatalities
go to doctors, those doctors will confirm everything in my articles.
I am more interested in the response of doctors in the real world-not
brain dead Internet responders.

The Mayo Clinics "The Ultimate guide to heart health by Bernard J.
Gersh second edition copyright 200 call number 616. 12 provide one of
dozens of quotes from library medical journal books.

Page 87: "Narrowing of the arteries are almost always caused by
genetics or because of eating a high fat diet with high cholesterol."

Page 93 warns potential ARDS fatalities "60 of heart attack victims
die within the first hour after the onset of symptoms." Investigations
reveal, page 94 "Indecision of whether to call 911 accounts for 62% of
all deaths. Transportation to ER 9%, 29% delays in hospitals."

It is vital that potential ARDSers' inform anyone they associate with,
that they are engaging in a certain fatal death style. For at events
where aerobic activity someone should have a cell phone to call 911
when the Atkins person has their inevitable heart attack. If the event
where an Atkins person is in a place where a paramedic will not be
able to arrive within the hour death frame, someone should be invited
to apply CPR.

It would also be advised that an Atkins person put on their drivers
license a notice to doctors they are on Atkins. For if the ARHA victim
survives, the standard length of hospitalization according to THE
CLEVELAND CLININC HEART BOOK c.2000 by Eric J. Topol MD call number
616.12 will be about 10 days. For stroke could occur if the hour death
frame was near an end. The ARHA could be in a coma or unconscious for
days and there will be no way for a doctor to know of the extreme
carbohydrate deficiency. Doctors will easily tell your 300 plus
cholesterol but carbs simply leave your body when not needed-due to
their high fiber content.

THE IDIOTS GUIDE TO TOTAL NUTRITION, Joy Bauer MS. RD, Chapter 2 tries
to explain that Carbohydrates don't turn into fat.

According the 2004 WORLD ALMANAC vital statistic section 920,000
people died in 2001 due to Coronary Arterial Disease (CAD) causes.
CLINIC page 88 lists the causes of CAD's " 50% High Blood Cholesterol,
40% Obesity, 25% Smoking, 20% High Blood Pressure and 60-80% Sedentary
Life Style."

Chapters 11 and 12 of HOPKINS explains how Atkins causes all of the
above conditions except smoking-which will kill you long before CAD or
ARHA. To highlight- Page 71 "Restricting your dietary fat may help
lower your blood pressure as well as blood cholesterol." Page 176
"Fiber in founding certain kinds of carbohydrates some fibers of this
type are water soluble and may help lower your blood cholesterol if
taken in conjunction with a low-saturated fat, low-cholesterol diet."

One could simplify the stats and claim ARDS already kills about
700,000 Americans annually. But, there wasn't an official AIDS death
toll statistic until 1985 when it was separated from other STD's. With
the recent mass marketing ARDS will probably get its own death
statistic- when articles start appearing in early 2005 about the
massive increase in CAD.

CLINIC page 247 and 29 have in bold big fonts "USE COMPLEX
CARBOHYDRATES FOR ENERGY. LIMIT DIETARY CHOLESTEROL."

All CLINIC, HOPKINS, MAYO, and UNDERSTANING OBESITY by Dr. Lance Levy
c.2000 Recommended by Nutrition Research Center part of Baylor College
Of Medicine call number 616.398 pages 114-116-along with shelves of
other books describe the hundreds of health benefits of a high complex
carbohydrate, low saturated fat and cholesterol diet.

Yet, for 35 years no-one other than those part of The Atkins Center
and those financially connected to Atkins have ever stated anything
but fatal consequences of Atkins. His own site and most products with
the Atkins scarlet A does not have the phrase "Consult your physician
before beginning this or any exercise program." Probably because the
American Medical Association and virtually all state medical license
boards have warned doctors about Atkins.

There is hope for anyone who doesn't want to die of ARDS. Those who
started about 5 months ago when the mass marketing haven't done any
permanent damage. For CAD takes about 2-4 years to reach a point of
Atkins Related Heart Attack Risk.

And CLINIC page 28 offers hope "Managing he amount and type of dietary
fat you eat is a key strategy in lowering blood cholesterol levels and
reducing CAD risks." Page 29 describes about reverse stenosis-where a
low fat diet; high carb diet can clear arteries (clogged by Atkins
death styles.)

THE MAYO CLINIC page 188 Chapter 9 offers hope also "Increase your
carbohydrate intake to 60% or more of your total calories by
emphasizing complex carbohydrates"


Being a vegetarian since August 7, 1977 my favorite quote obtained
from shelves of books describing the fatal consequences, supporting my
ARDS jargon came from MAYO CLINIC's page 96: "Vegetarian diets can be
lower in total fat, saturated fat and cholesterol which can lower the
risk of obesity, coronary heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes
and some form of caner." THE PCRM probably will engrave that
somewhere.


For those who are on ATKINS who might have trouble walking to a
library, you can access health information at www.americanheart.org or
www.clevelandclinic.org/heartcenter Or for those who prefer human
contact call the Cleveland Clinic Preventive Cardiology Rehabilitation
Program at (216) 444-9353.

Loved ones of a possible ARHA sufferer should also find out what is in
store. THE MAYO CLINIC book has actual photos (of dead people) of
arteries clogged subjected to Atkins death style diets. Those Jil
Hennessy, Marg Helgenberger, William Peterson fans could use them as a
CJ, CSI warm-up.

Please call, contact or visit a library-ask for where the NF616
section is.

For Consumer Reports June 2002 page 26 et seq. claims the best way to
safely lose weight and improve health is by a local hospital or
university, WEIGHT WATCHERS or JENNY CRAIG by reducing fat and
calories, not even mentioning low carb.

Atkins people might also get psychological counseling for being able
to be brainwashed so easily by marketing. But, that is for my next
article tentatively set sometime between July 14 and July 15 at 8 p.m.

And it's almost time for Cold Case tonight going back to 1973 that
would have been about the time the first wave of Atkins Related Deaths
occurred. Maybe I'll cover my library research after Kathryn Morris
heads towards an Emmy and Atkins heads towards a potential tragedy
averted by USENET newsgroups.


Love Means Never Having To Say. You're Sorry.


STEVE BAYT

Here is another Steve Report

Date: 28 May 2004 16:54:13
From: Steve Bayt
Subject: Atkins Lawsuit Begins, could prevent mass funerals
STEVE BAYT
(Parma/Brook Park, Ohio)



So, a few months ago, I mass posted on many newsgroups the idea that
people should start suing THE ATKINS DIET for the dietary disaster the
media has allowed to be advertised and Marketed to America.

Yet, the media has done virtually nothing to try to save Nutritional
Supplements from the wrath of Illinois Senator Durbin's Senate Bill
722.

A few months ago a then Mark_Probert(insert a date)~lumbercartel.com
thought it was a stupid idea that would never happen. Yet, today
(particularly on TODAY) came reports of a Floridian Jody Gorran has
started what will hopefully be millions of lawsuits against ATKINS.
Enough to end the worst diet since the early 1980's FIT FOR LIFE that
preached no fat, dairy, meat or anything but fruits and
vegetables-ignoring any need for Protein.

The reality is both ATKINS and Senate Bill 722 would create an
American Health Crisis that is like what Randy Shilts wrote about in
AND THE BAND PLAYED ON Chapter 2 titled THE BUTCHER'S BILL. The
eventual tragedy of homosexuals partying in San Francisco's 1980 Gay
Lesbian Parade, unaware of the millions of deaths and eventual deaths
that were about to transcend.

So far Atkins and SB 722 are like the Gay Parades in SF. Media
advertising this Low Carb, eat all the fat and cholesterol you want
and lose weight with no perception that along with the Atkins line of
products will soon come Atkins Cemeteries in every city for those who
would have died.

(Would have) has to be used because maybe with the lawsuit of Jody
Gorran others will come forward and file lawsuits. And hopefully this
Atkins party won't end up in a mass tragedy.

For those on THE ATKINS DIET will probably die if they stay on it too
long. Sort of like how homosexuals in SF would die if they didn't
stop. In 1983 SF's Department of Health Supervisor Mervin Silverman
closed bathhouses for the public safety.
Now two decades later, it's time for the FDA to get Atkins stuff off
the shelf before it's too late. Before there are too many people too
fat, with too much cholesterol for the American Health Care system to
handle.

Although I hope to be the "Randy Shilts against SB 722" Today (on
TODAY) Jody Gorran just became the "Randy Shilts against The Atkins
Diet."

Last night's "Joan of Arcadia" dealt with Joan preventing a potential
Columbine. In the morning came Jody Gorran who quite possibly
prevented a chain of Atkins cemeteries stealing the McDonald's slogan
"Millions served- to their deaths."

And to all those who thought my idea of suing Atkins were never going
to happen. There's no need to apologize. For my activism is a labor of
love (and money if it so happens, but it isn't necessary.) And like
Ali Mcgraw/Ryan O'Neill and Jamie Sale/David Pelletier "Love Means
Never Having To Say, You're Sorry."

Who is this lunatic? He's so nutty it's hardly worth the effort to sort those scribbles out.

[QUOTE=Trinsdad
For those on THE ATKINS DIET will probably die if they stay on it too
long. Sort of like how homosexuals in SF would die if they didn't
stop. QUOTE]

This guy is an absolute idiot. How can he relate Atkins to homosexuality and state that both people who take part in this will die? If that's not a jump to conclusion I don't know what is.

I agree with ItsTheWooo - he's just not worth the effort I spent writing this entry!

I am not sure where these posts originate, but one of the reasons I embraced this forum (yes, I need to start contributing membership fees and not just posts -- I promise to fix that) is that it was free of similar junk. I first found the low carb Internet newsgroup and quickly moved on because of the junk, baiting, flaming, and rude responses. Thank you for lowcarber.org!

Sounds like panicked yammering from someone who finds his cherished beliefs being challenged. (Or ignored.)

this guy posts a lot of similar nonsense in the swimming section of fitnessbanter.com; he appears to be just a lunatic with a misguided cause.

(hysteria x 10) + buzzwords - (any shred of hard evidence supporting one's argument) - (any remote understanding of endocrinology) = kook

One question: where are they, Steve? Where are all these people dropping dead because of Atkins?

Wait, I take that back... he might register here.



And it would be advisable for kooks to indicate that they have no journalism skills whatsoever before they pass themselves off as an authority.

Lemme guess, you found this on usenet.

The downtown area where I live, used to have a man who had a whole series of white sheets, with large words/slogans printed on them. the sheets were attached at the top with a pole. He would stand at stop lights and, every 10-20 seconds, flip the sheets so that you could see the next slogan.

Unfortunately, his statements were not coherent. Oh, you could make out the letters and the words, but the statement itself was incoherent. There was some apparent gripe about the government, lawyers, possibly involving a family member. I remain uncertain regarding his point.

haven't seen him in awhile. Bless his heart.

BTW, I've taken up running, and my fears regarding how it would affect my joints, are entirely baseless. My health only continues to improve, and I feel better and better each day. My personal cholesterol and lipid numbers have been fabulous for years now. How are you all doing this fine fall day?

Or to post them here, for that matter.

But yet we're all reading and responding.....

Must be a wheat farmer? or works for the bread industry?

The farmers I know don't have that much free time...

I really didn't mean to inflame anyone here. I love these boards. I think I was just looking for feedback from others who may have heard of this idiot, like maybe he wasn't for real or something like that.

I didn't have any other intentions.

Trinsdad: I think pointing out the "enemy" is a good thing, even if he is an idiot. Forewarned is forearmed I always say.