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Old Wed, Aug-11-04, 19:19
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Default Denmark bans Rice Krispies-Corn Flakes-Special K

Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
they could harm children

CHRISTIAN WIENBERG

Associated Press

COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday
they have banned several vitamin-enriched products of U.S.
breakfast cereal maker Kellogg, saying they could be harmful
if eaten regularly. The 18 products, which include enriched
versions of popular brands already on the Danish market like
Corn Flakes, Rice Krispies and Special K, were to be launched
in Denmark soon. "We've turned down applications for a number
of enriched products which will have toxic effects in the
doses Kellogg uses," said Paolo Drotsby of the Danish
Veterinary and Food Administration. Drotsby said that if eaten
regularly, the products could damage children's livers and
kidneys, as well as the fetuses of pregnant women. Kellogg
said it was puzzled by the rejection, as many of the products
are being sold already in several other European countries.
"We're extremely concerned and mystified, as we never have had
such problems with health authorities before in Kellogg's
history," said John Buckles, managing director for Kellogg in
the Nordic region. The 18 products include 12 types of cereal
brands and six types of snack or breakfast bars. Buckles said
the European enrichment recipes were slightly different from
the ones used in the United States, although Kellogg's
products are fortified there as well and have been since the
1930s. "Our next step is to work with Danish authorities and
see if we can come up with a solution. The important thing
here is for us to work in concert," Buckles said. Chris
Wermann, a spokesman for Kellogg Europe, added: "We will have
further discussions with Danish authorities about the
importance of vitamins in cereals." Meanwhile, Drotsby said
Kellogg could apply again if the company removes or reduces
the doses of the vitamins and minerals in question. The
rejection was delivered to Kellogg last month after a
government laboratory conducted a scientific examination of
the ingredient lists provided by the company, Drotsby said.
Kellogg Co., based in Battle Creek, Mich., operates in 160
countries. Its shares rose a penny to $41.11 in early
afternoon trading on the New York Stock Exchange.
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"Peanutjake" <peanutjakeNO~usa.com> wrote in message
news:2nv2j2F53ggkU1~uni-berlin.de...
  > Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
  > they could
harm children
  >
  > CHRISTIAN WIENBERG
  >
  > Associated Press
  >
  > COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday
  > they have
banned several
  > vitamin-enriched products of U.S. breakfast cereal maker
  > Kellogg, saying
they could be harmful if
  > eaten regularly.

It is likely political rather than content of the cereals. Has
the U.S. recently banned any Danish products? What contry is
the cereal to be manufactured in? Possibly someplace besides
Denmark? does Kellog have a manufacturing facility in Demark?

BJ
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Peanutjake <peanutjakeNO~usa.com> wrote on Wed, 11 Aug 2004
13:10:55 -0400:
  > Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
  > they could harm children

  > CHRISTIAN WIENBERG

  > Associated Press

  > COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday
  > they have banned several vitamin-enriched products of U.S.
  > breakfast cereal maker Kellogg, saying they could be harmful
  > if eaten regularly.

  > The 18 products, which include enriched versions of popular
  > brands already on the Danish market like Corn Flakes, Rice
  > Krispies and Special K, were to be launched in Denmark soon.
  > "We've turned down applications for a number of enriched
  > products which will have toxic effects in the doses Kellogg
  > uses," said Paolo Drotsby of the Danish Veterinary and Food
  > Administration. Drotsby said that if eaten regularly, the
  > products could damage children's livers and kidneys, as well
  > as the fetuses of pregnant women.

But, presumably, other foetuses will be OK. Provided, of
course, they don't eat too much Special K. Which reminds me -
some while ago, I remember Special K being reclassified by the
BDA from "sort of OK in moderation" to "only touch with a
barge pole" after its recipe was changed to use vastly more
sugar than previously.

  > Kellogg said it was puzzled by the rejection, as many of the
  > products are being sold already in several other European
  > countries.

  > "We're extremely concerned and mystified, as we never have
  > had such problems with health authorities before in
  > Kellogg's history," said John Buckles, managing director for
  > Kellogg in the Nordic region. The 18 products include 12
  > types of cereal brands and six types of snack or breakfast
  > bars. Buckles said the European enrichment recipes were
  > slightly different from the ones used in the United States,
  > although Kellogg's products are fortified there as well and
  > have been since the
  > 1930s. "Our next step is to work with Danish authorities
  > and see if we can come up with a solution. The
  > important thing here is for us to work in concert,"
  > Buckles said.

  > Chris Wermann, a spokesman for Kellogg Europe, added: "We
  > will have further discussions with Danish authorities about
  > the importance of vitamins in cereals."

Talk about patronising bastards! Perhaps Mr. Wermann would do
better to learn from the Danes about the importance of
properly balanced diets, and to modify his company's recipes
to conform.

  > Meanwhile, Drotsby said Kellogg could apply again if the
  > company removes or reduces the doses of the vitamins and
  > minerals in question.

  > The rejection was delivered to Kellogg last month after a
  > government laboratory conducted a scientific examination of
  > the ingredient lists provided by the company, Drotsby said.
  > Kellogg Co., based in Battle Creek, Mich., operates in 160
  > countries. Its shares rose a penny to $41.11 in early
  > afternoon trading on the New York Stock Exchange.

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Default Re: Denmark bans Rice Krispies-Corn Flakes-Special K

What the cross-posting, folks.

Hmmm, maybe that explains me being diabetic? I grew up eating
Rice Krispies. Snap, Crackle, Pop!

David

Peanutjake wrote:

  > Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
  > they could harm children
  >
  > CHRISTIAN WIENBERG
  >
  > Associated Press
  >
  > COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday
  > they have banned several vitamin-enriched products of U.S.
  > breakfast cereal maker Kellogg, saying they could be harmful
  > if eaten regularly. The 18 products, which include enriched
  > versions of popular brands already on the Danish market like
  > Corn Flakes, Rice Krispies and Special K, were to be
  > launched in Denmark soon. "We've turned down applications
  > for a number of enriched products which will have toxic
  > effects in the doses Kellogg uses," said Paolo Drotsby of
  > the Danish Veterinary and Food Administration. Drotsby said
  > that if eaten regularly, the products could damage
  > children's livers and kidneys, as well as the fetuses of
  > pregnant women. Kellogg said it was puzzled by the
  > rejection, as many of the products are being sold already in
  > several other European countries. "We're extremely concerned
  > and mystified, as we never have had such problems with
  > health authorities before in Kellogg's history," said John
  > Buckles, managing director for Kellogg in the Nordic region.
  > The 18 products include 12 types of cereal brands and six
  > types of snack or breakfast bars. Buckles said the European
  > enrichment recipes were slightly different from the ones
  > used in the United States, although Kellogg's products are
  > fortified there as well and have been since the 1930s. "Our
  > next step is to work with Danish authorities and see if we
  > can come up with a solution. The important thing here is for
  > us to work in concert," Buckles said. Chris Wermann, a
  > spokesman for Kellogg Europe, added: "We will have further
  > discussions with Danish authorities about the importance of
  > vitamins in cereals." Meanwhile, Drotsby said Kellogg could
  > apply again if the company removes or reduces the doses of
  > the vitamins and minerals in question. The rejection was
  > delivered to Kellogg last month after a government
  > laboratory conducted a scientific examination of the
  > ingredient lists provided by the company, Drotsby said.
  > Kellogg Co., based in Battle Creek, Mich., operates in 160
  > countries. Its shares rose a penny to $41.11 in early
  > afternoon trading on the New York Stock Exchange.
  >
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  >Subject: Re: Denmark bans Rice Krispies-Corn Flakes-Special K
  >From: "BJ in Texas" bjtexas~hotmale.com Date: 8/11/2004 11:46
  >AM Mountain Daylight Time Message-id:
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  >
  >
  >"Peanutjake" <peanutjakeNO~usa.com> wrote in message
  >news:2nv2j2F53ggkU1~uni-berlin.de...
     >> Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
     >> they could
  >harm children
     >>
     >> CHRISTIAN WIENBERG
     >>
     >> Associated Press
     >>
     >> COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said
     >> Wednesday they have
  >banned several
     >> vitamin-enriched products of U.S. breakfast cereal maker
     >> Kellogg, saying
  >they could be harmful if
     >> eaten regularly.
  >
  >It is likely political rather than content of the cereals.
  >Has the U.S. recently banned any Danish products? What
  >contry is the cereal to be manufactured in? Possibly
  >someplace besides Denmark? does Kellog have a manufacturing
  >facility in Demark?
  >
  >BJ

Could it somehow relate to the fact since another of the
Nordic countries has BANNED the fortification of food in their
country .. with .. iron .. they have had a 25% drop in
antidepressant medication in their country .. ?

Yep .. it .. could .. be ..

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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
<peanutjakeNO~usa.com> wrote:

  >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
  >they could harm children

Why you x poast this shit?
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Pete wrote:
  > On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
  > <peanutjakeNO~usa.com> wrote:
  >
  >
     >>Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
     >>they could harm children
  >
  >
  > Why you x poast this shit?
  >

If you object to the crossposts so much, why didn't you remove
them before replying?

I don't feel that the crossposts were excessive, the post
is likely to have interest in all of the groups where it
was posted.

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David
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BJ in Texas wrote:

  > "Peanutjake" <peanutjakeNO~usa.com> wrote in message
  > news:2nv2j2F53ggkU1~uni-berlin.de...
  >
     >>Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
     >>they could
  >
  > harm children
  >
     >>CHRISTIAN WIENBERG
     >>
     >>Associated Press
     >>
     >>COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday
     >>they have
  >
  > banned several
  >
     >>vitamin-enriched products of U.S. breakfast cereal maker
     >>Kellogg, saying
  >
  > they could be harmful if
  >
     >>eaten regularly.
  >
  >
  > It is likely political rather than content of the cereals.

I doubt it.

Denmark has high standards regarding food laws, and a policy
of not accepting political interference. It has banned other
products that are readily available in the western world. It
has banned Red Bull, most common pesticides, amalgam in
dentistry, water fluoridation, many supplements, etc., etc.

Denmark is probably less politically influenced than most
western countries. It seems (unusually) to put its people
first, ahead of profits for the private sector. Other
countries could learn from it.

Regards

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The REASON they were rejected is because they had high levels
of VITAMINS added, and Denmark's food agency doesn't believe
in added vitamins.

Peanutjake wrote:

  > Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
  > they could harm children
  >
  > CHRISTIAN WIENBERG
  >
  > Associated Press
  >
  > COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday
  > they have banned several vitamin-enriched products of U.S.
  > breakfast cereal maker Kellogg, saying they could be harmful
  > if eaten regularly. The 18 products, which include enriched
  > versions of popular brands already on the Danish market like
  > Corn Flakes, Rice Krispies and Special K, were to be
  > launched in Denmark soon. "We've turned down applications
  > for a number of enriched products which will have toxic
  > effects in the doses Kellogg uses," said Paolo Drotsby of
  > the Danish Veterinary and Food Administration. Drotsby said
  > that if eaten regularly, the products could damage
  > children's livers and kidneys, as well as the fetuses of
  > pregnant women. Kellogg said it was puzzled by the
  > rejection, as many of the products are being sold already in
  > several other European countries. "We're extremely concerned
  > and mystified, as we never have had such problems with
  > health authorities before in Kellogg's history," said John
  > Buckles, managing director for Kellogg in the Nordic region.
  > The 18 products include 12 types of cereal brands and six
  > types of snack or breakfast bars. Buckles said the European
  > enrichment recipes were slightly different from the ones
  > used in the United States, although Kellogg's products are
  > fortified there as well and have been since the 1930s. "Our
  > next step is to work with Danish authorities and see if we
  > can come up with a solution. The important thing here is for
  > us to work in concert," Buckles said. Chris Wermann, a
  > spokesman for Kellogg Europe, added: "We will have further
  > discussions with Danish authorities about the importance of
  > vitamins in cereals." Meanwhile, Drotsby said Kellogg could
  > apply again if the company removes or reduces the doses of
  > the vitamins and minerals in question. The rejection was
  > delivered to Kellogg last month after a government
  > laboratory conducted a scientific examination of the
  > ingredient lists provided by the company, Drotsby said.
  > Kellogg Co., based in Battle Creek, Mich., operates in 160
  > countries. Its shares rose a penny to $41.11 in early
  > afternoon trading on the New York Stock Exchange.
  >
  >
  >

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"Ted Rosenberg" <tedrosenberg~iname.com> wrote in message
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  > The REASON they were rejected is because they had high
  > levels of VITAMINS added, and Denmark's food agency doesn't
  > believe in added
vitamins.

The real problem with Kellogg's cereals are the high
levels of sugar and salt added, and that applies to Heinz
products as well!
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"Pete" <aspen3~freeuk.com> wrote in message
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  > On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
  > <peanutjakeNO~usa.com> wrote:
  >
     > >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
     > >they could harm children
  >
  > Why you x poast this shit?
  >

Because it may be important news to the readers of four
diabetic newsgroups.

It is not off topic. It is not spam.

PJ
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No twit try learning how to read, they were banned because of
too many added VITAMINS, not sugar or salt.

jren57 wrote:
  > "Ted Rosenberg" <tedrosenberg~iname.com> wrote in message
  > news:2o19hpF5l4klU2~uni-berlin.de...
  >
     >>The REASON they were rejected is because they had high
     >>levels of VITAMINS added, and Denmark's food agency doesn't
     >>believe in added
  >
  > vitamins.
  >
  > The real problem with Kellogg's cereals are the high levels
  > of sugar and salt added, and that applies to Heinz products
  > as well!
  >
  >

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Instead of simply crossposting some half baked comment, it
would have been helpful to bother to check the FACTS first,
and find out that the reason they are banned is because
Denmark, like many other countries, is getting concerned that
people, particularly children, are taking to many vitimines,
and that they are BAD for them.

Peanutjake wrote:
  > "Pete" <aspen3~freeuk.com> wrote in message
  > news:t9dlh01lot635fndpjrf0ik00iph7qi989~4ax.com...
  >
     >>On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
     >><peanutjakeNO~usa.com> wrote:
     >>
     >>
       >>>Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
       >>>they could harm children
     >>
     >>Why you x poast this shit?
     >>
  >
  >
  > Because it may be important news to the readers of four
  > diabetic newsgroups.
  >
  > It is not off topic. It is not spam.
  >
  > PJ
  >
  >

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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
<peanutjakeNO~usa.com> wrote:

  >"Pete" <aspen3~freeuk.com> wrote in message
  >news:t9dlh01lot635fndpjrf0ik00iph7qi989~4ax.com...
     >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
     >> <peanutjakeNO~usa.com> wrote:

     >> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products,
     >> >saying they could harm children
     >> Why you x poast this shit?

  >Because it may be important news to the readers of four
  >diabetic newsgroups.

What is so important about it?

  >It is not off topic.

I never said it was

  >It is not spam.

I never said it was

  >PJ
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"Ted Rosenberg" <tedrosenberg~iname.com> wrote in message
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  > No twit try learning how to read, they were banned because
  > of too many added VITAMINS, not sugar or salt.
  >

Yes , and the radio news said ( citing the posted article )
said that Denmark says that too much vitamin fortification can
cause kidney trouble and trouble with other organs too ,
especially in children .

  > jren57 wrote:
     > > "Ted Rosenberg" <tedrosenberg~iname.com> wrote in message
     > > news:2o19hpF5l4klU2~uni-berlin.de...
     > >
     > >>The REASON they were rejected is because they had high
     > >>levels of VITAMINS added, and Denmark's food agency
     > >>doesn't believe in added
     > >
     > > vitamins.
     > >
     > > The real problem with Kellogg's cereals are the high
     > > levels of sugar and salt added, and that applies to Heinz
     > > products as well!
     > >
     > >
  >
  > --
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  > history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls
  > observing from the
present"
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