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Old Wed, Jul-28-04, 13:42
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Plan: TKD - semi low carb
Stats: 260/238/210 Male 76
BF:??%/28%/15%
Progress: 44%
Location: Seattle, WA
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Nice work. I'm enjoying my TKD although I differ from you in that I intake carbs pre and post workout.
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Old Wed, Jul-28-04, 13:46
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Plan: Atkins /NHE/CKD
Stats: 289/219/200 Male 5' 8"
BF:41%/20%/18%
Progress: 79%
Location: West Michigan
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Elijaeger,
I carb on dextrose what are you using?
Jag
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Old Wed, Jul-28-04, 13:53
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Plan: TKD - semi low carb
Stats: 260/238/210 Male 76
BF:??%/28%/15%
Progress: 44%
Location: Seattle, WA
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I do dextrose strictly pre workout and then dextrose/sucrose/other starches post. I mix skim milk with my whey protein, and the lactose isn't optimal in that some goes to liver and some to muscle (not sure about that exactly)

Basically, I want to enjoy a carb meal post workout and will tolerate a slower fat loss if it means a couple cheat meals a week.
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Old Wed, Jul-28-04, 14:15
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Plan: Atkins /NHE/CKD
Stats: 289/219/200 Male 5' 8"
BF:41%/20%/18%
Progress: 79%
Location: West Michigan
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Good deal,
You can't know the carb meals!

Jag
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Old Thu, Jul-29-04, 05:29
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Plan: Atkins /NHE/CKD
Stats: 289/219/200 Male 5' 8"
BF:41%/20%/18%
Progress: 79%
Location: West Michigan
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Well I am just floored! Dropped another pound today!
228.2 I am really moving now. The TKD seems to be really helping in the fat loss department.
I think I have finally broken the 232 pound set point I have been fighting for 2 months now.



Jeff
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Old Thu, Jul-29-04, 16:40
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Plan: TKD - semi low carb
Stats: 260/238/210 Male 76
BF:??%/28%/15%
Progress: 44%
Location: Seattle, WA
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That's awesome, I think TKD is probably best for fat loss. I got stuck at 247, now again at 239. I might try a long refeed here soon.
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Old Thu, Aug-12-04, 08:10
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Plan: Atkins /NHE/CKD
Stats: 289/219/200 Male 5' 8"
BF:41%/20%/18%
Progress: 79%
Location: West Michigan
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227.8 on the scale today. I did not do the dextrose last night pre workout. Had a killer leg night, squats last set was 6 reps at 305#. Starting to get the weight up on the squats now.
we'll see what happens. I have been doing 1 carb up NHE style on Saturday night, with no TKD type carb pre lifting. I seem to be dropping with this plan so far. Lifts staying strong but not gaining. I think that is ok for cutting?
Any input on one carb up (last 2 meals, clean low GI NHE style)

Jag
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Old Thu, Aug-12-04, 08:22
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Plan: CKD
Stats: 272/219/210 Male 70.5 inches
BF:30+/20-21/14-15
Progress: 85%
Location: NW Georgia (Near Atlanta)
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Kewl on the new weighloss Jeff!

I know how frustrating it can be to stop losing when you're still dieting your a*% off, and how great it is when it starts going again. Don't worry, you keep working at it like you're been and it's definitely just going to keep getting better!
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Old Thu, Aug-12-04, 08:30
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Plan: Atkins /NHE/CKD
Stats: 289/219/200 Male 5' 8"
BF:41%/20%/18%
Progress: 79%
Location: West Michigan
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Yep It is a darn rollercoaster of emotions you get really high when the scale or measurements are going the right way. And it is a b*&^% when you stagnate.

Any I am on the top latley!

patience patience patience

Jag
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Old Thu, Aug-12-04, 08:54
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: 178/108/120 Female 5' 1"
BF:45%/17%/15%
Progress: 121%
Location: T.O.
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Congrats Jag!

I feel you on the stagnate thing. I'm trying to be patient too.

red
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Old Wed, Aug-18-04, 12:07
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Plan: Atkins /NHE/CKD
Stats: 289/219/200 Male 5' 8"
BF:41%/20%/18%
Progress: 79%
Location: West Michigan
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226.8 this AM.
Jag
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Old Wed, Aug-18-04, 12:13
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Plan: hi prot/carb/cal cycling
Stats: 138.5/133.5/120 Female 64 inches
BF:20%
Progress: 27%
Location: San francisco
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congrats...it is just falling off you now. Seesm you have found your groove...keep up the good work !!
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Old Wed, Aug-18-04, 12:30
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Plan: Atkins /NHE/CKD
Stats: 289/219/200 Male 5' 8"
BF:41%/20%/18%
Progress: 79%
Location: West Michigan
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Hiya Liftnlady,
It seems to be working but its tough. Basically I am <20 g carbs per day. I keep calories 10-15% below maintenance.
I do 1 carb up Saturday night using NHE (BB) rules.
I find the lack of carbs is affecting my physical ability on workout days and I have been feeling whipped.
I also cut off all stims on Sunday night. I have been lying down to sleep and not gettin there! I am trying to drop the stims for a while and see if I can get some sleep. Gotta ... have.... sleep......




Jag
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Old Wed, Aug-18-04, 12:40
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Plan: hi prot/carb/cal cycling
Stats: 138.5/133.5/120 Female 64 inches
BF:20%
Progress: 27%
Location: San francisco
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dropping the stims is good idea, with the lack of carbs your seratonin levels are probably low...you can try supplementing with seratonin to help you sleep.

ahh the body chemistry experiment isn't it grand....I know how tough the lack of carbs can be, but keep up the good work.
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Old Wed, Aug-18-04, 12:41
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Plan: Atkins /NHE/CKD
Stats: 289/219/200 Male 5' 8"
BF:41%/20%/18%
Progress: 79%
Location: West Michigan
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Been taking melatonin and sometimes a benadryl too.

Jag
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