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Old Thu, May-13-04, 08:55
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Plan: General Low Carb
Stats: 135/130.5/120 Female 5'4"
BF:26/???/18
Progress: 30%
Default What is NHE?

What is NHE? I see several of you following that plan? What is it? I've never heard of it before.

Also, I'm trying to follow Atkins, but my protein & fat percentages get outta whack after I have my PWO shake. What do you suggest I eat to increase the fat???

Thanks!!!
-Aimee
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Old Thu, May-13-04, 09:17
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Plan: Zone
Stats: 255/242/230 Male 75 inches (6'3")
BF:21%/15%/8%
Progress: 52%
Location: Philly
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It's a variation on CKD ... I'll let the NHE group respond more in depth ... That's their turf. LOL.

Built? Legs? Lift? Mouse?

Anyone? Buhler?
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Old Thu, May-13-04, 13:07
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Plan: low glycemic
Stats: // Female jkl
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Hmm, those names make some interesting sentences...

Built legs lift mouse.

Lift built mouse legs.

Legs lift built mouse.

Can anyone tell I'm wayyyy short on sleep today? (finals week)

They must be out lifting or something. I'll bump so they see it.

Cheers,

Friday
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Old Thu, May-13-04, 13:39
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Plan: Zone
Stats: 255/242/230 Male 75 inches (6'3")
BF:21%/15%/8%
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Location: Philly
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Oh my. LMAO.

Friday, go eat some Smarties or something. Your brain needs help.

Fun post.
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Old Thu, May-13-04, 15:19
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Plan: hi prot/carb/cal cycling
Stats: 138.5/133.5/120 Female 64 inches
BF:20%
Progress: 27%
Location: San francisco
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well in a nutshell...I went through a 10 day induction you keep fats at 65-70%, protein at 25-30 and carbs to 5% which is 20 grams or less a day. every 3rd and then 4th day (Wednesday & Sunday for me) you do a carb up for the last 2 meals of the day. These meals should be about 150-200 grams of carb seach, keepng protein and fats less than 20 grams (protein from direct sources). After first carb up I am bumping my carbs to about 30-40 grams (net of fiber) a day which is about 10%, fats will be 65%, protein 25%. You do not need to worry about less protein as the fats are muscle sparing. Currently I eat about 2000 cals a day on this plan and have lost 4lbs the first 10 days, my carb up yesterday was 2900 cals (only gained 1/2-1 lb). I will adjust caloric levels and/or cardio as I progress. I lift 5 days and do cardio 2-3 days a week. LegWarmers and Built can add anythng did not cover.

You can also learn about the plan at www.extique.com
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Old Thu, May-13-04, 16:01
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Plan: New Varient NHE
Stats: 176/132/120 Female 5 feet
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Location: UK
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What she said...

So far I'm enjoying the diet. I've not been doing it long so I'm not yet sure how it will work out long term. I've not done well with CKD's previously, I'm too small to cope well with the large carb ups.
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Old Thu, May-13-04, 17:33
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Plan: NHE
Stats: 135/133/140 Female 64"
BF:15%
Progress: -40%
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that looks like a good general outline LL

i did NHE w/o much gym november to january and i lost 10 lbs of fluff... worked great for me.

right now i'm upping the cals and my guru tweaked things for me to turn it into a low carb bulk... weeee!
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Old Thu, May-13-04, 17:36
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Plan: Metabolic Surge
Stats: 170/139/? Female 5'8"
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Location: Canada's Wet Coast
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I'm waiting for the book to arrive, but when it does, I'll post up an NHE journal here.
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Old Fri, May-14-04, 22:10
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Plan: ckd
Stats: 182/163/150 Female 5'4"
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Any one know where i can get this book...the plan sounds interesting.
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Old Fri, May-14-04, 22:22
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Plan: hi prot/carb/cal cycling
Stats: 138.5/133.5/120 Female 64 inches
BF:20%
Progress: 27%
Location: San francisco
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I think you can go to www.extique.com
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Old Fri, May-14-04, 22:24
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Plan: low glycemic
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BTW, how would you ladies characterize the difference between CKD and NHE?

TIA,

Friday
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Old Fri, May-14-04, 22:34
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Plan: Metabolic Surge
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Basically, it's the difference in the way you do the carbup.

I shall now shamelessly oversimplify:
The base diet for both is high-fat, low-carb (basic keto diet).
With CKD, it's a 36 hour bender, and with NHE, you eat roughly 200g of fast (lowfat) carb toward the end of the day, two days a week, planning your heaviest workouts for the day AFTER the carbup.

It's almost halfway between CKD and TKD.

For me, I like it better than CKD because you top up your glycogen twice, and I don't seem to have as much "spillover" as I did on CKD.

I also like TKD - not as much of a "kick", but easier to plan.
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Old Fri, May-14-04, 22:35
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Plan: ckd
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i saw that on extique...do i order it from one of those listings or maybe is it at Barnes and Noble?
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Old Fri, May-14-04, 22:37
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Plan: low glycemic
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Thanks, Built! Hmmmmm.... *Friday eyes her plan speculatively as a gleam appears in her eye*
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Old Fri, May-14-04, 22:39
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Plan: Metabolic Surge
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*Friday eyes her plan speculatively as a gleam appears in her eye*

Snortle! .
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