Yes, I know they too have carbs... I know that many diabetics
eat a lot of eggs. I really love them. They make an easy meal.
I am on Lipitor and my chol has really gotten a lot better.
Chol--155 Trigs--171 HDL--37 LDL--84 Dr. will take a new panel
in Aug. Just how careful are you all in eating or not eating
the eggs? So many times I have not eaten them because I feel
they just aren't good for my chol. I could eat the darn things
every day and I would be very nice and very friendly.. I do
HAVE to put one in every time I make a chef salad. I don't
seem to be able to eat the salad without egg in it (plus my
chicken..). Chickens make me very happy... Bless Memory

"Memory" <JBROWN1577~kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:L3_wa.48482$JE3.2692461~twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
  > Yes, I know they too have carbs... I know that many
  > diabetics eat a lot
of
  > eggs. I really love them. They make an easy meal. I am on
  > Lipitor and
my
  > chol has really gotten a lot better. Chol--155 Trigs--171
  > HDL--37 LDL--84 Dr. will take a new panel in Aug. Just how
  > careful are you
all
  > in eating or not eating the eggs? So many times I have not
  > eaten them because I feel they just aren't good for my
  > chol. I could eat the darn things every day and I would be
  > very nice and very friendly.. I do HAVE to put one in
  > every time I make a chef salad. I don't seem to be able to
  > eat the salad without egg in it (plus my chicken..).
  > Chickens make me
very
  > happy... Bless Memory

I got through periods of time where I'll eat a boiled egg
every morning. I sometimes put boiled eggs in salad and once
or twice a year I'll make egg salad. And I'll occasionally
make egg and peppers or a zucchini or spinach pie with eggs in
it. I'm not a really big egg eater.

--
Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

On Fri, 16 May 2003 04:47:39 GMT, "Memory"
<JBROWN1577~kc.rr.com> wrote:
  >Yes, I know they too have carbs... I know that many diabetics
  >eat a lot of eggs. I really love them. They make an easy
  >meal. I am on Lipitor and my chol has really gotten a lot
  >better. Chol--155 Trigs--171 HDL--37 LDL--84 Dr. will take a
  >new panel in Aug. Just how careful are you all in eating or
  >not eating the eggs?

Well I eat a lot of eggs, mostly as omelets or fritatas. I'll
mostly use egg whites or one of the Egg Beater types
(basically egg whites and coloring). And I will often have
some in a salad, scrambled or microwave poached. Every once
and while I get a carton of eggs so I can use the yolks.

But the only reason I don't use the yolks often, is I need to
cut out fat calories as much as possible, to keep my intake
under 60grams of fat per day.

But over all not too worried about eating whole eggs or just
the egg whites.

--
Terrell type 2 metformin 500mg x2

"Memory" <JBROWN1577~kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:L3_wa.48482$JE3.2692461~twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
  > Yes, I know they too have carbs... I know that many
  > diabetics eat a lot
of
  > eggs. I really love them. They make an easy meal. I am on
  > Lipitor and
my
  > chol has really gotten a lot better. Chol--155 Trigs--171
  > HDL--37 LDL--84 Dr. will take a new panel in Aug. Just how
  > careful are you
all
  > in eating or not eating the eggs? So many times I have not
  > eaten them because I feel they just aren't good for my
  > chol. I could eat the darn things every day and I would be
  > very nice and very friendly.. I do HAVE to put one in
  > every time I make a chef salad. I don't seem to be able to
  > eat the salad without egg in it (plus my chicken..).
  > Chickens make me
very
  > happy... Bless Memory

I eat a lot of eggs, (like two a day) and my cholesterol is
NOT high. They satisfy my hunger and I like them. I read
somewhere that eggs have gotten a bum rap as far as the
amount of cholesterol they contain. Aside from eggs
themselves, I have a belief about cholesterol that I would
like to express here.

First of all the link between blood cholesterol and diet has
never been really proven that well. The liver makes the
cholesterol that is in the blood. The link between high blood
cholesterol and cardiovascular problems is there, but there
are other factors involved.... there is just not enough we
know about it, and the link between dietary cholesterol and
blood cholesterol is still fuzzy.

I have a friend who is a vegetarian and eats almost no
dietary cholesterol. The doctor just mentioned that hers is
creeping up.

My father who is 90 and in good health, still drives, rides
his bicycle every day, digs a garden every year, shovels his
own snow, etc. has had a cholesterol level of over 300 for
years and years. Other than high blood cholesterol numbers, he
is fine. The only time he feels sick is when the doctor tries
to make him take cholesterol lowering drugs. He has tried all
of them, and all give him severe muscle weakness and more. He
absolutely can't take any of those drugs. His heart is in
excellent shape and he continues to be active. He hates pills
of any kind, but recently began taking a baby aspirin daily
and a couple of vitamins. High cholesterol has never harmed
him. 90 is a good old age by anyones standards, and his
cholesterol has been over 300 for twenty years!

On the other hand, my mother, who ALWAYS had excellent
cholesterol levels, had a triple bypass and died at 82 of a
heart attack. She was on her second pacemaker and had had
heart problems for several years before she passed away.

So I think there is more to this than simply measuring ones
blood cholesterol or eating or not eating cholesterol
containing foods. I am going to keep on eating eggs. I think
the whole cholesterol thing is bunk, or at best partial
knowledge. For me the diet enemy is carbohydrates. Those I
watch really well. I have to eat something, and eggs are easy,
satisfying, and don't raise my blood glucose much.

Regards, Evelyn

In article <L3_wa.48482$JE3.2692461~twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"Memory" <JBROWN1577~kc.rr.com> wrote:

  > Yes, I know they too have carbs... I know that many
  > diabetics eat a lot of eggs. I really love them. They make
  > an easy meal. I am on Lipitor and my chol has really gotten
  > a lot better. Chol--155 Trigs--171 HDL--37 LDL--84 Dr. will
  > take a new panel in Aug. Just how careful are you all in
  > eating or not eating the eggs?

Egg Beaters, Better n' Eggs, ... It's more expensive, but
cholesterol isn't an issue with them.

--
Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship

Hi there Memory,

"Memory" <JBROWN1577~kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:L3_wa.48482$JE3.2692461~twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
  > Yes, I know they too have carbs...

If you mean that they have a lot of carbs, well, no, they
don't. In fact they have only a small amount of carbs.

According to the information at:

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/list_nut.pl

One 50g boiled egg contains only about 0.5g of carbohydrate.

Yet it provides around 324 kj of energy. Two eggs for
breakfast make a nice little start to the day, and are
unlikely to cause any rise in bg in a T2. Add a few fresh
veges for fibre and vit C and you're set!

I've seen Quentin post that a common breakfast for *him* is
some scrambled eggs with a garden salad. I might be inclined
to lay bets that he thought that one out carefully for
optimum benefit.

So where is the rest of the energy coming from? Proteins and
fats. They are much slower in being digested and release of
energy, so they not only don't spike, but give a steady slow
release for quite some time. It's the kind of food they were
talking about when they say "It sticks to your ribs", ie, you
don't feel hungry and tired for quite a few hrs.

The one that worries some is the "fats" - which just happen
to include some dietary cholesterol. In the same chart as
given above, here's a break down of just what fats are in
that 50g egg.

Lipids Fatty acids, total saturated 1.6 g Fatty acids, total
monounsaturated 2.0 g Fatty acids, total polyunsaturated 0.7 g
Cholesterol (note - in MILLIGRAMS!) 212 mg

There are a few undiferentiated other fats in there, but the
amounts are really tiny, so lets ignore them.

You may notice that the monounsaturated plus the
polyunsaturated oils exceed the total of the other two. All
up, you get about a maximum of 5 grams of fat per egg, and
more than half are the "good" ones.

There's just one more thing that makes eggs a good choice -
the vitamins, minerals and flavinoids that they contain. Not a
bad little package.

Did you hear about the man who used to go to work on an egg?
One day it wouldn't start, so he pulled out the yolk and it
went all wite. :-)

Speaking of the white, if you're allergic to eggs, that's the
bit that does it.

So eat your eggs, just remember - no little soldiers
with them! :-)

Annette

Evelyn,

The original warnings about eggs came from an organization
that wanted to promote cereals as the perfect food, not from
the American Egg Board.

I eat 2 or more eggs per day and my cholesterol stays down as
long as I stay away from fat meats and sugars.

Budd

Evelyn Ruut wrote:

  > I eat a lot of eggs, (like two a day) and my cholesterol is
  > NOT high. They satisfy my hunger and I like them. I read
  > somewhere that eggs have gotten a bum rap as far as the
  > amount of cholesterol they contain. Aside from eggs
  > themselves, I have a belief about cholesterol that I would
  > like to express here.
  >
  > First of all the link between blood cholesterol and diet has
  > never been really proven that well. The liver makes the
  > cholesterol that is in the blood. The link between high
  > blood cholesterol and cardiovascular problems is there, but
  > there are other factors involved.... there is just not
  > enough we know about it, and the link between dietary
  > cholesterol and blood cholesterol is still fuzzy.
  >
  > I have a friend who is a vegetarian and eats almost no
  > dietary cholesterol. The doctor just mentioned that hers is
  > creeping up.
  >
  > My father who is 90 and in good health, still drives, rides
  > his bicycle every day, digs a garden every year, shovels his
  > own snow, etc. has had a cholesterol level of over 300 for
  > years and years. Other than high blood cholesterol numbers,
  > he is fine. The only time he feels sick is when the doctor
  > tries to make him take cholesterol lowering drugs. He has
  > tried all of them, and all give him severe muscle weakness
  > and more. He absolutely can't take any of those drugs. His
  > heart is in excellent shape and he continues to be active.
  > He hates pills of any kind, but recently began taking a baby
  > aspirin daily and a couple of vitamins. High cholesterol has
  > never harmed him. 90 is a good old age by anyones standards,
  > and his cholesterol has been over 300 for twenty years!
  >
  > On the other hand, my mother, who ALWAYS had excellent
  > cholesterol levels, had a triple bypass and died at 82 of a
  > heart attack. She was on her second pacemaker and had had
  > heart problems for several years before she passed away.
  >
  > So I think there is more to this than simply measuring ones
  > blood cholesterol or eating or not eating cholesterol
  > containing foods. I am going to keep on eating eggs. I think
  > the whole cholesterol thing is bunk, or at best partial
  > knowledge. For me the diet enemy is carbohydrates. Those I
  > watch really well. I have to eat something, and eggs are
  > easy, satisfying, and don't raise my blood glucose much.
  >
  > Regards, Evelyn

OOOPS!!!

Forgot the link. . . <www.aeb.org>

Everyone tells me my memory is slipping. Myself, I don't know
. . .I don't remember.

Budd

Evelyn Ruut wrote:
  >
  >
  > I eat a lot of eggs, (like two a day) and my cholesterol is
  > NOT high. They satisfy my hunger and I like them. I read
  > somewhere that eggs have gotten a bum rap as far as the
  > amount of cholesterol they contain. Aside from eggs
  > themselves, I have a belief about cholesterol that I would
  > like to express here.
  >
  > First of all the link between blood cholesterol and diet has
  > never been really proven that well. The liver makes the
  > cholesterol that is in the blood. The link between high
  > blood cholesterol and cardiovascular problems is there, but
  > there are other factors involved.... there is just not
  > enough we know about it, and the link between dietary
  > cholesterol and blood cholesterol is still fuzzy.
  >
  > I have a friend who is a vegetarian and eats almost no
  > dietary cholesterol. The doctor just mentioned that hers is
  > creeping up.
  >
  > My father who is 90 and in good health, still drives, rides
  > his bicycle every day, digs a garden every year, shovels his
  > own snow, etc. has had a cholesterol level of over 300 for
  > years and years. Other than high blood cholesterol numbers,
  > he is fine. The only time he feels sick is when the doctor
  > tries to make him take cholesterol lowering drugs. He has
  > tried all of them, and all give him severe muscle weakness
  > and more. He absolutely can't take any of those drugs. His
  > heart is in excellent shape and he continues to be active.
  > He hates pills of any kind, but recently began taking a baby
  > aspirin daily and a couple of vitamins. High cholesterol has
  > never harmed him. 90 is a good old age by anyones standards,
  > and his cholesterol has been over 300 for twenty years!
  >
  > On the other hand, my mother, who ALWAYS had excellent
  > cholesterol levels, had a triple bypass and died at 82 of a
  > heart attack. She was on her second pacemaker and had had
  > heart problems for several years before she passed away.
  >
  > So I think there is more to this than simply measuring ones
  > blood cholesterol or eating or not eating cholesterol
  > containing foods. I am going to keep on eating eggs. I think
  > the whole cholesterol thing is bunk, or at best partial
  > knowledge. For me the diet enemy is carbohydrates. Those I
  > watch really well. I have to eat something, and eggs are
  > easy, satisfying, and don't raise my blood glucose much.
  >
  > Regards, Evelyn

Excellent information Annette! (By the way, I'm glad you are
able to keep posting. You are an assest to this group.) I know
when I have an egg breakfast I'm not hungry for at least 41/2
hours. I usually eat small amounts every two to three hours.
My favorite quick supper in the sautee a lot of veggies with
protabella mushroom and then pour scrambled eggs over. We get
two meals from six eggs and I get now spikes.

My boyfriend (What other word can you use when 50 yrs. old?
He's hardly a boy?) has high cholesterol and wouldn't touch
them for ages. The information about diet here and my imporved
well being have helped him to see they aren't the evil he
thought they were. c

"Annette" <acianthus~bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:ba2jie$o0cgf$1~ID-194908.news.dfncis.de...
  > Hi there Memory,
  >
  > "Memory" <JBROWN1577~kc.rr.com> wrote in message
  > news:L3_wa.48482$JE3.2692461~twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
     > > Yes, I know they too have carbs...
  >
  > If you mean that they have a lot of carbs, well, no, they
  > don't. In fact they have only a small amount of carbs.
  >
  > According to the information at:
  >
  > http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/list_nut.pl
  >
  > One 50g boiled egg contains only about 0.5g of carbohydrate.
  >
  > Yet it provides around 324 kj of energy. Two eggs for
  > breakfast make a nice little start to the day, and are
  > unlikely to cause any rise in bg in a T2. Add a few fresh
  > veges for fibre and vit C and you're set!
  >
  > I've seen Quentin post that a common breakfast for *him* is
  > some scrambled eggs with a garden salad. I might be inclined
  > to lay bets that he thought that one out carefully for
  > optimum benefit.
  >
  > So where is the rest of the energy coming from? Proteins and
  > fats. They are much slower in being digested and release of
  > energy, so they not only don't spike, but give a steady slow
  > release for quite some time. It's the kind of food they were
  > talking about when they say "It sticks to your ribs", ie,
  > you don't feel hungry and tired for quite a few hrs.
  >
  > The one that worries some is the "fats" - which just happen
  > to include some dietary cholesterol. In the same chart as
  > given above, here's a break down of just what fats are in
  > that 50g egg.
  >
  > Lipids Fatty acids, total saturated 1.6 g Fatty acids, total
  > monounsaturated 2.0 g Fatty acids, total polyunsaturated 0.7
  > g Cholesterol (note - in MILLIGRAMS!) 212 mg
  >
  > There are a few undiferentiated other fats in there, but the
  > amounts are really tiny, so lets ignore them.
  >
  > You may notice that the monounsaturated plus the
  > polyunsaturated oils exceed the total of the other two. All
  > up, you get about a maximum of 5 grams of fat per egg, and
  > more than half are the "good" ones.
  >
  > There's just one more thing that makes eggs a good choice -
  > the vitamins, minerals and flavinoids that they contain. Not
  > a bad little package.
  >
  > Did you hear about the man who used to go to work on an egg?
  > One day it wouldn't start, so he pulled out the yolk and it
  > went all wite. :-)
  >
  > Speaking of the white, if you're allergic to eggs, that's
  > the bit that does it.
  >
  > So eat your eggs, just remember - no little soldiers with
  > them! :-)
  >
  > Annette

"Mr D-150" <mr.d-150~citylink.net> wrote in message
news:2L5xa.7263$t66.6213~news02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net...
  > Evelyn,
  >
  > The original warnings about eggs came from an organization
  > that wanted to promote cereals as the perfect food, not from
  > the American Egg Board.
  >
  > I eat 2 or more eggs per day and my cholesterol stays down
  > as long as I stay away from fat meats and sugars.
  >
  > Budd

That makes sense to me, Budd!

Thanks for mentioning it.

Evelyn

Tell him they're an ancient aphrodisiac.

That''l get (almost) any guy interested.

Budd

Colleen wrote:
  > Excellent information Annette! (By the way, I'm glad you
  > are able to keep posting. You are an assest to this
  > group.) I know when I have an egg breakfast I'm not hungry
  > for at least 41/2 hours. I usually eat small amounts every
  > two to three hours. My favorite quick supper in the sautee
  > a lot of veggies with protabella mushroom and then pour
  > scrambled eggs over. We get two meals from six eggs and I
  > get now spikes.
  >
  > My boyfriend (What other word can you use when 50 yrs. old?
  > He's hardly a boy?) has high cholesterol and wouldn't touch
  > them for ages. The information about diet here and my
  > imporved well being have helped him to see they aren't the
  > evil he thought they were. c

I believed the statements when they first came out myself.

Then back when the truth in advertising laws ( which are still
ignored on a regular basis) I gave the issue some thought and
realized the cereal guys were out to make a bunch of bucks, if
they could.

I went to the store and bought a dozen eggs. <VBG>

Budd

Evelyn Ruut wrote:
  >
  >
  >
  > That makes sense to me, Budd!
  >
  > Thanks for mentioning it.
  >
  > Evelyn

Well, he's bald so I can't tell him it will make his
hair shiney! c

"Mr D-150" <mr.d-150~citylink.net> wrote in message
news:OY6xa.7278$nZ6.1528~news02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net...
  > Tell him they're an ancient aphrodisiac.
  >
  > That''l get (almost) any guy interested.
  >
  > Budd
  >
  > Colleen wrote:
     > > Excellent information Annette! (By the way, I'm glad you
     > > are able to
keep
     > > posting. You are an assest to this group.) I know when I
     > > have an egg breakfast I'm not hungry for at least 41/2
     > > hours. I usually eat small amounts every two to three
     > > hours. My favorite quick supper in the
sautee a
     > > lot of veggies with protabella mushroom and then pour
     > > scrambled eggs
over.
     > > We get two meals from six eggs and I get now spikes.
     > >
     > > My boyfriend (What other word can you use when 50 yrs.
     > > old? He's hardly
a
     > > boy?) has high cholesterol and wouldn't touch them for
     > > ages. The information about diet here and my imporved well
     > > being have helped him
to
     > > see they aren't the evil he thought they were. c

Chest hair, maybe?

<VBG>

Budd

Colleen wrote:
  > Well, he's bald so I can't tell him it will make his hair
  > shiney! c

Memory <JBROWN1577~kc.rr.com> wrote:
  : Yes, I know they too have carbs... I know that many
  : diabetics eat a lot of eggs. I really love them. They make
  : an easy meal. I am on Lipitor and my chol has really gotten
  : a lot better. Chol--155 Trigs--171 HDL--37 LDL--84 Dr. will
  : take a new panel in Aug. Just how careful are you all in
  : eating or not eating the eggs? So many times I have not
  : eaten them because I feel they just aren't good for my chol.
  : I could eat the darn things every day and I would be very
  : nice and very friendly.. I do HAVE to put one in every
  : time I make a chef salad. I don't seem to be able to eat the
  : salad without egg in it (plus my chicken..). Chickens make
  : me very happy... Bless Memory

Talked about this with my endo, as I like to get an omelette
for lunch in a restauant and gg ehite is not always available.
He sid no problemwith once a week. I use the egg substitutes
the rest of the time for breakfasts on days I don't have to
leave the house early. I make them into an omelette with lots
of veggies, sometimes cheess and sometimes baco-bits all mixed
in. This with a few Was crackers, perhapas a starwberry or two
and my black decaf makes a super breakfast.

Wendy Baker