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Old Fri, Jul-07-23, 18:02
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Default 'Overweight' BMI Not Tied to Higher Risk of Death

https://www.medpagetoday.com/primarycare/obesity/105368

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"The real message of this study is that overweight as defined by BMI is a poor indicator of mortality risk, and that BMI in general is a poor indicator of health risk and should be supplemented with information such as waist circumference, other measures of adiposity, and weight trajectory," Visaria told MedPage Today.
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There are some other interesting bits in this review.

The rest of the title is "— Though clear link seen for BMIs of 30 and above". And article is above an enormous ad and warnings for Ozempic, What else?


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Individuals with overweight had slightly higher rates of comorbidities compared with the reference group, including higher rates of diabetes (6-9% vs 4%, respectively), hypertension (26-32% vs 20%), and myocardial infarction (MI; 3.4-3.9% vs 2.6%). Adults with class I obesity (BMI of 30-34.9) had approximately triple the rates of diabetes (13%) and nearly double the rates of MI (4.2%) and hypertension (39%) compared with the reference group.




Since 1850, the BMI was designed to be a statistical, population based index, not to be a medical diagnostic for an individual.

But if you look at BMI based on the hazard ratios of a population study of 3.6 million, then BMI has some validity.

Optimal Body Weight and BMI for Health & Longevity (and How to Achieve It). https://optimisingnutrition.com/opt...ity/#more-41003

I knowingly misuse BMI as my goal, but my healthcare system uses it and studies of breast cancer recurrence do too. I don’t think my risk of specific mortality outcomes follow the graphs lines in this article, but it is better than nothing. as this article suggests, best to use other measures for an individual, so I keep waist to height ratio at or below .5 and BG below 100, and BMI 22.

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"Physicians should interpret adiposity measures in the context of their cardiometabolic health parameters, such as blood pressure, blood sugar, and cholesterol levels," said Visaria.


This is a product of the Toxic Body Positivity Movement. It's all over Youtube with Influencers target the young, and mostly female, audience who already feel like they have tried everything to manage their weight. "Look at our health markers," they say. In their twenties.

But BMI does predict who will develop disorders in these markers at a much younger age. These influencers are right when they say doctors are part of the problem, but in their minds... it is because doctors tell them to lose weight.

And no one knows how. So I get it, but a lot of these people who believed them once are getting sick and speaking out. And the medical profession is ready to turn it all over to the drugs and surgeons.

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Young adults with Class 1 Obesity (I’ve been there, easy to reach and add it to medical record) have triple the rate of diabetes and 40% increase in hypertension…yet not the focus of this article?

The authors are at "Rutgers Institute for Health, Center for Pharmacoepidemiology and Treatment Sciences"
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