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I've been faithfully working out for about 5 years now, so maybe it's time to start a gym log and keep track of what I do at the gym!

Wednesday, September 28 Work Out
Cardio
Treadmill 20 min. hill profile
Bike 20 min. varied profile

Weight Training
3 sets, 8 reps of all:
Lat. Pulldown 80lbs
Tricep Press 75lbs
Preacher Curl 50lbs
Overhead Press 40lbs
Compound Row 75lbs

Goals:Get cardio back up to 45 min a day
Increase weight on machines
Get Buff

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Thursday, September 29
Cardio
Bike 20 min hill profile
Indoor Rower 15 min level 7 (goes from 0-10)

Weight Training
3 sets of 15 with 30 on the bar:
Squats
Lunges
No weight
50 Calf Risers

I had a very wimpy workout this morning, and I think a lot of it had to do with hardly eating anything for breakfast. Let this be a lesson to me.
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This is an EXCELLENT training routine. Read over it and see if it's something you'd like to do. I'm going back to it shortly.



Baby got back

The back can be thought of as vertical and horizontal planes. Back training should really be split into two workouts - one devoted to horizontal pulling (thickness based workout / rowing movements) and one devoted to vertical pulling (width based workout / pull ups).

The hit you get from heavy deadlifts on leg day will round out your back workout.

Horizontal Pulling
  • Barbell Rows (vary the grip between pronated and supinated)
  • T-Bar Rows (vary the grip between pronated and supinated)
  • Rack Pulls (vary the pin height, usually set them set below the knee/mid shin area)
  • Seated Cable Rows
Vertical Pulling

  • Lat Pulldowns (various grips and widths)
  • Pull Ups
  • Chin Ups
  • Pull overs (Nautilus, cable, bar)
Grip
Pick one and stick with it throughout the course of the program - then switch when you want to change exercises. This would be most consistent and you'll be able to tell whether you're progressing or not. If you take a bent BB row - you'll find that you can probably lift more weight with a supinated grip because the biceps are assisting the movement. So if you're switching back and forth between grips during each workout, or every other workout, then it may be difficult to gage progress.

Supinated grip means palms facing your body. Pronated means palms facing away from your body. Semi-supinated means palms facing each other. A pull-up uses a pronated grip, palms facing away from your body. Chin-ups use the other two grips.


TYPES OF DEADLIFTS

SLDL


SLDLs are decent for the hip extension function and therefore your lower back, but not so much for great upper back development, at least comparatively speaking.

Regular Deadlifts


Regular deadlifts are a 'hip dominant' exercise. They hit the whole posterior chain - from hamstrings up to traps. They are the king of back development.

Do them first in your back workout.

You can be pretty sure you're doing it right if you're getting war wounds on your shins. It's basically a sign that the bar is staying really close to your body, which is correct.

You keep your sets short for two reasons:

  • 1. It is a complex movement and form tends to break down with higher reps.
  • 2. It is a strength movement. Your goal is to get strong on this exercise.
Keep the reps under 5 with regular deads. You can go higher with stiffs.

There IS overlap between these two exercises. SLDLs obviously hit some back, and regular deads obviously hit some hams. But stiff leg deads will not do for your back what regular, off the floor deads will.

Rack Pulls
A rack pull is like a regular deadlift off pins.

Click here for rack pulls

Pulling from the floor is more difficult. The weight has more distance to travel, and uses more glutes and hams. If you pull from pins you can focus on your back, which is essentially what’s working on the upper portion of a deadlift, and because your ROM is shorter you should be able to lift a bit heavier. Vary the pin height, but not set to set or workout to workout. It's a matter of being able to gauge your progress. If you change things too frequently, you really can't tell, from a strength standpoint, if you're progressing or not. You might stick with something for four weeks, and then switch it up a bit.


BUILDING IT INTO A WORKOUT
You could pair the horizontal pulling workout with horizontal pushing (chest) and the vertical pulling with vertical pushing (shoulders) to ensure that volume around the joints is kept constant.

However, this assumes for the most part that muscle groups are being trained once per week. An upper/lower split or an undulating split (with increased frequency, where everything basically gets hit twice per week) is better for hypertrophy. The one thing you have to consider when doing this is that the volume per bodypart per workout is lower, but the weekly volume, since you're hitting the muscle more often, is still fair.

4 DAY SPLIT

DAY 1 - HORIZONTAL PUSH PULL
Horizontal plane back (pull)
Select from:

  • Bent barbell rows (vary the grip between pronated and supinated)
  • T-Bar Rows (vary the grip between pronated and supinated)
  • Rack Pulls (vary the pin height, usually set them set below the knee/mid shin area)
  • Seated Cable Rows
  • Dumbbell row
  • Hammer Strength row
Horizontal plane chest (push)
Select from:

  • Flat barbell press
  • Dumbbell press
  • Low incline press.
  • Flat flyes
(Standing calves, short, heavy sets)

DAY 2 - QUAD DOMINANT LEGS
Go short and heavy on two quad dominant exercises and lighter with higher reps for one ham dominant exercise. (Here, hams are accessory, so they go lighter, with higher reps)

(bicep work)

DAY 3 - VERTICAL PUSH/PULL
Vertical plane back (pull)
Select from:

  • Lat Pulldowns (various grips and widths)
  • Pull Ups
  • Chin Ups
  • Pull overs (Nautilus, cable, bar)
Vertical plane shoulders (push)
Select from:

  • Standing barbell press
  • Dumbbell press
  • Arnies
  • Laterals, etc
(Seated calves, long sets)

DAY 4 – HIP/HAMSTRING DOMINANT LEGS
Opposite from day 2. Go short and heavy on 2 hip/ham dominant exercises and light with higher reps for one quad dominant exercise. (Here, quads are accessory, so they go lighter, with higher reps)

(Tricep work)
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If you want to stick with what you're doing now....let me take a look. You said you go 5 days a week and alternate between upper and lower body. I've never done that so I have no opinion on it really. But....looking at your upper body routine.....I'm not seeing anything for chest.
I suggest you do cardio after weight training.
If you're ready for a change, you might consider something like:
Back and biceps
Chest and triceps
Legs and shoulders
You would be doing like 3 exercises for each bodypart. An example would be:
Back and Biceps: 3 sets of 8-10 on everything would be fine.
lat pulldowns
bent-over rows
straight-arm pushdowns
alternating db curls
inc. curls
close grip pulldowns
Or BGB (Baby Got Back)

Cardio
Treadmill 20 min. hill profile
Bike 20 min. varied profile

Weight Training (upper body)
3 sets, 8 reps of all:
Lat. Pulldown 80lbs (back)
Tricep Press 75lbs
Preacher Curl 50lbs
Overhead Press 40lbs (shoulders)
Compound Row 75lbs (back) ?



Cardio
Bike 20 min hill profile
Indoor Rower 15 min level 7 (goes from 0-10)

I'd do more for legs. Even if you just add more sets. You've only got 6 sets there. And be more aggressive with adding weight. Maybe 5 sets of 5 reps. That would bringing the weight up so that 5 reps. are hard. You would probably go more like 8 on your first set but by the 5 set maybe only 3. If you're using an olympic bar now and adding 30 pounds you've got 75 lbs. Try bringing it up to 90 and see how that feels. Is that 3 sets of 15 lunges on each leg? Your legs should feel WORKED when you're done. If not.....work them harder. On leg day you could skip cardio.



Weight Training (lower body)
3 sets of 15 with 30 on the bar:
Squats
Lunges
No weight
50 Calf Risers

Goals:Get cardio back up to 45 min a day
Increase weight on machines
Get Buff


If you choose to stay with exactly what you've been doing, I won't be offended. Most people only ask to see what I'll say and go on about their usual routines.....I'm use to it.
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First of all, Thank You Debbie!
I like the idea of having the four day program. I'm just very uncomfortable with using free weights, so would it be OK to use the same philosiphy, but use mostly machines?

For Example:
DAY 1 - HORIZONTAL PUSH PULL
Horizontal plane back (pull)
Compound Row (Machine)
Chain Pull (Machine)(chain fastened low, pull bar from lower level toward center of body)
Horizontal plane chest (push)
Chest Press(Machine)

DAY 2 - QUAD DOMINANT LEGS
Squats
Lunges
(bicep work)
Preacher Curl (Machine)
Forward Row (free weight)

DAY 3 - VERTICAL PUSH/PULL
Vertical plane back (pull)
Compound Row(Machine)
Deadlifts(free weight)
Lat. Pull down(Machine)

Vertical plane shoulders (push)
Overhead Press(Machine)
Add in Tricep press this day

DAY 4 – HIP/HAMSTRING DOMINANT LEGS
A little confused on "opposie of day 2..."

Quote:
Originally Posted by galatia
.....I'm not seeing anything for chest.

Yes, I need to start using the chest press again.

Quote:
Originally Posted by galatia
[I suggest you do cardio after weight training.



I usually break up my cardio into at least two sessions, because otherwise I get bored out of my head


Quote:
Originally Posted by galatia
If you're ready for a change, you might consider something like:
Back and biceps
Chest and triceps
Legs and shoulders
You would be doing like 3 exercises for each bodypart. An example would be:
Back and Biceps: 3 sets of 8-10 on everything would be fine.
lat pulldowns
bent-over rows
straight-arm pushdowns
alternating db curls
inc. curls
close grip pulldowns
]


I'm saving this, because it looks good too. Probably would just substitute machines for a few of the freeweights listed above.

Cardio
Treadmill 20 min. hill profile
Bike 20 min. varied profile

Weight Training (upper body)
3 sets, 8 reps of all:
Lat. Pulldown 80lbs (back)
Tricep Press 75lbs
Preacher Curl 50lbs
Overhead Press 40lbs (shoulders)
Compound Row 75lbs (back)

Yes, compound row gets the back


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[font=Comic Sans MS][color=blue]I'd do more for legs. Even if you just add more sets. You've only got 6 sets there. And be more aggressive with adding weight. Maybe 5 sets of 5 reps. That would bringing the weight up so that 5 reps. are hard. You would probably go more like 8 on your first set but by the 5 set maybe only 3. If you're using an olympic bar now and adding 30 pounds you've got 75 lbs. Try bringing it up to 90 and see how that feels. Is that 3 sets of 15 lunges on each leg? Your legs should feel WORKED when you're done. If not.....work them harder.

I agree, need to add more weight for the squats. I just haven't figured out how to get the bar on my back with more weight. I just about knocked my head off this AM when I brought up the bar and put it on my back...any sugestions?


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If you choose to stay with exactly what you've been doing, I won't be offended. Most people only ask to see what I'll say and go on about their usual routines.....I'm use to it.

No, I plan to use at least SOME of what you've mentioned!

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Well now.....why not go ahead and take the plunge into free weights? They are superior to machines, in that you have to also balance and stableize and often machines force you into unnatural positions and can cause some trouble. I'm not "against" machines....but I am most definately "for" free weights. Are you saying there is no squat rack at your gym? Or are you saying....you're not about to go near that free weight area?

If you are certain you have no intentions of going that route....then what you've described sounds fine.
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Well now.....why not go ahead and take the plunge into free weights? They are superior to machines, in that you have to also balance and stableize and often machines force you into unnatural positions and can cause some trouble. I'm not "against" machines....but I am most definately "for" free weights. Are you saying there is no squat rack at your gym? Or are you saying....you're not about to go near that free weight area?

If you are certain you have no intentions of going that route....then what you've described sounds fine.


You crack me up Deb, I love how you just say it how it is. I tell you what- if I had someone to show me the proper form for using free weights, I would start tomorrow. But I see a lot of gals (I work out at a womens only gym) flopping weights around and they obviously don't know what they are doing. Not only do I fear looking like a moron, I fear doing exercises improperly and not working the right muscles, or worse yet, hurting myself. It costs $45 for a 1/2 hour with a trainer, and they would want to set up a little routine for me and tell me that eating LC is bad. (I went through this when I joined the gym)

Squat rack? Hmmm, I'll have to look tomorrow. I think I know what you are talking about.

I don't want to just get stuck in a rut, so I'm all for chaning my workout around, as long as I do exercises properly and with good form.

Thanks for all your help, Debbie, I really appreciate you advice, even if it sounds like I'm fighting it!

I'm wondering too, is it time for a new gym?
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I'm going to try this, starting today. So today I will do back/biceps. 3 exercises, 3 reps of 8 each.
Quote:
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[font=Comic Sans MS]If you're ready for a change, you might consider something like:

Back and biceps
Chest and triceps
Legs and shoulders
You would be doing like 3 exercises for each bodypart. An example would be:
Back and Biceps: 3 sets of 8-10 on everything would be fine.

lat pulldowns
bent-over rows
straight-arm pushdowns
alternating db curls
inc. curls
close grip pulldowns
Or BGB (Baby Got Back)
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So the first day of my new program...........and I already messed up. OH WELL. I did back and triceps instead of biceps.
Friday, September 30
Weight Training 3 sets/8 reps of each
Lateral Pulldown 80lbs
Tricep Press 80lbs
Lower Back 80lbs
Compound Row 80lbs
Pull Ups 59lbs
Upright Row 15lbs

The "lower back" is the only name on that machine. The pull ups were weight assisted, so my body-weight assist= 59 lbs

Cardio
Eliptical hill profile, 30 min
Bike varied profile 10 min
Treadmill 5 min

I got in 45 min cardio It seemed like 2 hours

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Hi Seanna
It looks pretty good to me! We all make those mistakes from time to time and it's a new routine you are allowed to mess up some.
Girl you have been doing this for 5 years!
Good For You!! You will do wonderful with your new routine.
I just wanted to drop in and wish you luck and see how you were doing.
Besides you will get this just like the pros as long as you have been at it.
Nice Gym Log too.
Brenda
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Weight Training 3 sets/8 reps of each
Lateral Pulldown 80lbs back
Tricep Press 80lbs triceps
Lower Back 80lbs back
Compound Row 80lbs back
Pull Ups 59lbs back
Upright Row 15lbs traps (shoulders or upper back)

First thing-- arms go last, so triceps shouldn't have been done until you were finished with back. I would have done a couple more tricep exercises and only about 3 back exercises. Right now 3 back 3 tricep or bicep, doesn't matter.
You can pair bodyparts however you want really. So it's not wrong to put back and triceps together. Ever 6 weeks or so you'll want to change things up anyway. You might want to get a little notebook and write what you want to work that day and then you can also keep up with how much weight you used and how many reps you got. Then the next time you do it you'll know whether you need to go up in weight. You don't just decide you'll do 8 reps. You try to use a weight to where you don't think you can get but 8 reps.
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Thanks for visiting my gym log, Brenda and Debbie! Yes Deb, UrbanZero suggested doing 8 reps with the weight being heavy enought that I CANT do a 9th rep. I used to do weight training every workout, but then when I got real heavy, I started doing just cardio. I just got back into weight training....I think about a month ago? So my weight amounts ARE really wimpy right now, but they are heavy enough I can barely get in 8, believe it or not! I didn't see these posts until I got back from working out this afternoon, but I'll do arms last next time I work out. And thanks for shedding light on what muscles the exercises work out. I was going by the pictures on the machines, so I thought I had 3 for back and 3 for triceps, but I guess I didn't.
This all shows that a person can be working out for many years and still not have a very good idea about what they are doing!
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Having said all that, here is
Saturday, October 1
Weight Training
Chest/Biceps
3 sets of 10 reps
Chest Press 45lbs
Lat Pull Down (with UH grip) 65lbs
Pull Ups 59lbs
Preacher Curl 45lbs
Chest Press (FW) 20lbs
Standing Barbell Curls 20lbs
I should also add that I always have done my weight training in a circut, as time is precious.
Cardio (very wimpy today)
Eliptical 20min Glute Profile
Bike 15 min varied Profile

My knee is still really big today. I think it's the impact of the treadmill that does it, but I'm not sure.

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Originally by Deb: If you're ready for a change, you might consider something like:
Back and biceps
Chest and triceps
Legs and shoulders

Where do I add in abs?
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