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Old Wed, Jun-27-18, 10:52
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I'm hesitant to read an abcnews link. Is there a link to the actual study?


My Google Fu produces this was done in 2015.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/ja...article/2087877
It says nothing about immunity in the study. It speaks, as far as I can tell, mostly about CVD and T2D. Cause-specific mortality.

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Try Google Scholar for human studies on oats and human immunity.
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I used to eat oatmeal for my health before I discovered low carb eating. It never set well though and made me feel bad when I ate it. Now that Iím eating low carb I wonít touch the stuff. I donít have any data, just my experience. I donít serve it to my grandkids anymore either.
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Old Wed, Jul-04-18, 11:38
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My big question here is what was the beta-glucan compared to? Is it protective, or is the thing it's replacing harmful? I've seen several studies where mouse chow made with cellulose as the fiber source shortened the lives of mice. When the "control" shortens lives, sometimes the protective effect of an intervention turns out to just be a reversion to the norm.

Not harmful or less harmful is still preferable to the alternative.
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Old Wed, Jul-04-18, 12:56
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My big question here is what was the beta-glucan compared to? Is it protective, or is the thing it's replacing harmful? I've seen several studies where mouse chow made with cellulose as the fiber source shortened the lives of mice. When the "control" shortens lives, sometimes the protective effect of an intervention turns out to just be a reversion to the norm.

Not harmful or less harmful is still preferable to the alternative.


Thanks teaser. This is an important point.

This is when further studies are necessary to repeat the results.
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There is nothing scientific here, so apologies in advance for that, but I find oatmeal a) addictive and b) indigestible. Oatcakes in particular look so nice and healthy but if I eat one I can eat the packet. This is usually a sign (for me at least) that there's something not so good going on. Porridge without sugar is pretty palatable to me but my gut doesn't like it. Maybe it's because the oatmeal I ate had gluten traces in it. I am most resistant to infection when I stick to low carb and that means no oatmeal.
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Old Thu, Jul-05-18, 05:34
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Looking at the benefits of fermenting ,,,,,,,seems raw grains are not the best option.
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Old Thu, Jul-05-18, 08:04
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I was hoping for responses with substancial information. Not speculation. Hoping....

Maybe you should really be hoping that the report you're using to justify eating oats is substantial. The usual cycle of these things is someone pays for some research (probably the trade group for oats). Research is done and finds something tiny, perhaps coincidental, ill-trained journalists see it published somewhere and make it sound awesome.

Anyone remember the chocolate study? It was totally fake, yet everyone jumped on that bandwagon and it turns out the researchers were actually studying how quick and completely a study can be blown out of proportion and how widely reported. There are probably still people eating chocolate based on that fake study.

Now, it may well be that the people eating oatmeal that didn't get sick were eating Captain Crunch before. An improvement on the SAD doesn't necessarily mean it is an improvement on your diet which is probably pretty good anyway.

So, IMHO, do what you want because you chose too, don't base it off a study of questionable reliability. Also, any food you can think of has a study casting it into a glowing light.
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which is why I am looking for any other study on oatmeal.
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