https://www.sciencedaily.com/releas...80517081837.htm



I have nothing against fish, nothing against omega 3--but reading between the lines--they don't think the main positive reason for suggesting fish, the omega 3 content, has really panned out. All they have left is hoping that when we're eating fish, it will mean we're not eating beef or pork, and that it'll be a low fat meal.

So why do they push "oily fish high in omega 3" if omega 3 supplements haven't panned out? Maybe it has brand value, just like healthywholegrains.

They're love/hate relationship with fat is funny. They recommend to eat "non-fried fish" but what they should suggest is non-breaded fried fish.
When will they stop saying that beef and pork is bad because of the "fat" but fatty fish is good?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3705336/

This review from 2013 covers most of the stuff from that article, maybe it was the basis for their stance.

One study shows eating one salmon meal a week associated with a 50 percent decrease in death from heart disease. I think salmon's great. It's possible it does save lives, but I won't be convinced until the data comes in from fish diet interventions vs. epidemiology.

This is interesting;



Anxiety/depression is a bit hard to study in people, placebo effects tend to be "strong." Are people answering mood questionaires to please the researchers, are they optimistic specifically when thinking about an intervention that it might help, putting them in a better state just exactly when it's being measured, etc. But a good point here I tend to forget, vitamin d, at something like 500 iu per 100 grams, salmon can be a major source. I'm suspicious when something in diet affects my own mood, it has to hold true a fair number of times before I'll say, okay, that's a thing.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25431880

I actually find this hilarious:




I would assume the same can be said of arsenic and lead - no heart disease risk from them, so feel free to eat as much as you want of them.

Well, those toxins are "all natural"

Placebo effect works by the brain actually producing opioids which is why one feels better even when given a sugar pill. But the effect tends to be less effective than something that actually works, especially over time. (Thank you, Radio Lab podcast!)

I'm a big believer in eating fish. Many things improve for me when I eat fish everyday. My arthritis is a biggie.

That is awesome to know, thanks, Nancy!

I have found that ever since I make a point of avoiding Omega 6 oils, and seeking out Omega 3s, I feel less inflammation, which can only be a GOOD thing.

Could this be the impetus for their observations? Environmentally sustainable fish farming is a lightning rod in this case, as farmed fish don't provide the same nutrient profile as wild fish. Not even close. It appears to be coming out of the Harvard group that periodically sends these messages. Fish farming has become a big business, are there dots to connect???

There's a lot of reversion to mean and the cyclic nature of bipolar sorts of depression to deal with, as well. Often there is likely no placebo "effect" that we can be certain of. Placebo doesn't have to have an effect, all you need is a base set of conditions where things might have improved, anyways.

We only know if a drug works if it shows better result than placebo. How do we know that placebo works, in a "who watches the watchers" sense, what is the placebo for placebo?

Dr. Dale Bredesen recommends SMASH (salmon, mackerel, anchovies, sardines, and herring) in his 2017 book The End of Alzheimer's. My wife always gets mackerel at the seafood market, and I like it.

People are still going on about arterycloggingsaturatedfat?

I've never had fresh mackerel, only canned - which I'm not wild about. But it's a heck of a lot cheaper than canned salmon. Mostly I eat sardines because I like them & they're easy. I try to buy a bunch every time they're on sale.

Mackerel are an oily fish, much like bluefish, only smaller. Can catch in bunches on the northeast coast during certain times in the summer season. I love fish, but don't care for either mackerel or blues, as they don't compare to the white meat from cod, haddock, flounder (sole), or other fish from colder waters. However, the have a higher omega 3 content, so there's that. I have never tried them canned, but do favor sardines or anchovies from a can. Good on salads, etc. But in all cases, I'm referring to wild caught fish, not farmed.

I do supplement daily with The Very Finest Fish Oil (Lemon flavor) by Carlson. Yes, fish oil supplements have been somewhat controversial with some claiming nirvana and others claiming no positive impacts for brain or heart. Me? I take about 2 teaspoons mostly daily, as I believe it provides a source of healthy omega 3s, and if nothing more, it balances the omega 6s I'm sure to be consuming from other foods. Any hey, I love a good placebo effect, and even in the unlikely event where that's the only value I'm getting, I'm all for it!

My wife had always made mackerel for herself in the past. Decided to try some and it just clicked. I like it best when it's leftover, and I just grab one and pinch bites with my fingers while I'm cooking my eggs and whathaveyou. I keep meaning to add some shoyu or vinegar, but it's so good plain. All that's left is the tiny backbone with bones when I'm done.

Yeah, fish farming. I read an article just within the week about how terrible farmed salmon is - yet they still say to eat salmon. And almost all salmon is farmed!

Oh yeah. This was an article a friend had linked to on Facebook:
http://www.healthy-holistic-living....tent=40319-BHTJ