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Old Tue, Apr-02-02, 18:35
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Default DIET SODA vs. WATER

WATER:

1. 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. (Likely
applies to half world population)

2. In 37% of Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak
that it is often mistaken for hunger.

3. Even MILD dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as
much as 3%.

4. One glass of water will shut down midnight hunger pangs
for almost 100% of the dieters studied in a U-Washington study.

5. Lack of water, the #1 trigger of daytime fatigue.

6. Preliminary research indicates that 8-10 glasses of
water a day could significantly ease back and joint pain
for up to 80% of sufferers.

7. A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy
short-term memory, trouble with basic math, and difficulty
focusing on the computer screen or on a printed page.

8. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases the risk of
colon cancer by 45%, plus it can slash the risk of breast
cancer by 79%, and one is 50% less likely to develop
bladder cancer.

Are you drinking the amount of water you should every day?

COKE/DIET COKE:

1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries
two gallons of Coke in the truck to remove blood from the
highway after a car accident.

2. You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of coke and it will
be gone in two days.

3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coke into the
toilet bowl and let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then
flush clean. The citric acid in Coke removes stains from
vitreous china.

4. To remove rust spots from chrome car bumpers: Rub the
bumper with a rumpled-up piece of Reynolds Wrap aluminum
foil dipped in Coke.

5. To clean corrosion from car battery terminals: Pour a
can of Coke over the terminals to bubble away the
corrosion.

6. To loosen a rusted bolt: Applying a cloth soaked in
Coke to the rusted bolt for several minutes.

7. To bake a moist ham: Empty a can of Coke into the
baking pan, wrap the ham in aluminum foil, and bake.
Thirty minutes before the ham is finished, remove the foil,
allowing the drippings to mix with the Coke for a
sumptuous brown gravy.

8. To remove grease from clothes: Empty a can of coke into
a load of greasy clothes, add detergent, and run through a
regular cycle. The Coke will help loosen grease
stains. It will also clean road haze from your windshield.

For Your Info

1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its
pH is 2.8. It will dissolve a nail in about 4 days.
Phosphoric acid also leaches calcium from bones and is a
major contributor to the rising increase in osteoporosis.

2. To carry coke syrup (the concentrate) the
commercial truck must use the Hazardous material place
cards reserved for Highly corrosive materials.

3. The distributors of coke have been using it to clean the
engines of their trucks for about 20 years!

Now the question is, would you like a glass of water or a
soda?
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Old Tue, Apr-02-02, 18:57
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While interesting and cute, a lot of these types of arguments tend to be largely innapplicable.

For instance, we don't see LC folks arguing against the use of vinegar, even though Wegman's White Distilled Vinegar has
a measured pH of 2.55 and can do pretty much all of the above things as well.

Also, most citrus fruits have a pH in the neighborhood of 2 and are quite corrosive.
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Old Tue, Apr-02-02, 20:35
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Just trying to make a point.

I know that I won't be putting anything that can dissolve a steak in my body anymore.

I figured this post is a more-fun way of saying DRINK MORE WATER.

About vinegar ... Do you normally drink it 12 or 20 ounces at a time?
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Old Tue, Apr-02-02, 20:56
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Hey Dan, I don't think it's inapplicable at all The amount of coke that many people drink (not necissarily us low-carbers, as we are a very well informed group but the general populace) is astronomical. There IS a reason diet sodas stall many people.

Soda should be a special treat--water is what we need. I just don't understand how some people can't stand the taste of water....I mean, it's water, it doesn't taste like anything! I find it really comical when people say that. But people will chug down a can of chemicals with no problem.....

Thank God for LC, my taste buds are normal again! Food with a chemistry set's worth of ingredients taste weird and gross to me now......
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Old Tue, Apr-02-02, 21:13
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About vinegar ... Do you normally drink it 12 or 20 ounces at a time?


Good point. I don't ... but I know a few people that I wonder about.

As for people not being able to stand the taste of water .... I felt the same way. Until I tasted the water in some parts of the country. For the really lousy places, people know it and drink bottled water. But for the places where the water is tolerable many people simply think that that is how water tastes.
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Old Tue, Apr-02-02, 21:32
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Originally posted by Trainerdan
About vinegar ... Do you normally drink it 12 or 20 ounces at a time? [/B]


Hi everyone,
Pls don't laugh but a few years ago, my aunt & I used to drink (yes, drink!) 1/2 glass of Japanese vinegar a day, each. We were trying to lose weight & we each drank 3L of vinegar (we each bought a 3-litre-bottle of this special vinegar). Drinking vinegar is huge in HK & Japan. U can now buy chilled cans of vinegar at the 7-11s.

Bebe

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Old Tue, Apr-02-02, 22:37
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Default why?

A few years ago I read that people should drink at least 4 ounces of vinegar a day...if they can stomach it. I forgot the reason why and the benefits but I was wondering if anyone knew. What was it suppose to do to lose weight?
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Old Tue, Apr-02-02, 22:43
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Originally posted by disneybebe


Hi everyone,
Pls don't laugh but a few years ago, my aunt & I used to drink (yes, drink!) 1/2 glass of Japanese vinegar a day, each. We were trying to lose weight & we each drank 3L of vinegar (we each bought a 3-litre-bottle of this special vinegar). Drinking vinegar is huge in HK & Japan. U can now buy cans of chilled vinegar at the 7-11s.

Bebe


Hi Bebe,

LOL, my body shudders at the thought - my lips & cheeks are puckering - and my sinuses cringe. Vinegar is fermented and is therefore off-limits to anyone with mold allergies - that would be moi. I can no more think of drinking vinegar than I can sip Udo's oil - I tried it and my body just shuddered. I believe at the time I called it 'Barforama'. Ditto for my taste buds & vinegar. LOL
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Old Wed, Apr-03-02, 06:57
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Default vinegar

At a gym I used to work at, we had a member that SWORE by apple cider vinegar for fat loss. There are a number of other people who do too ... but a simple search on the internet shows just as many people are strongly opposed to it.

I researched it (lightly) and found no science on it, so I dismissed it.

Bebe, I don't know how you did it. I tried one "shot" (1.5 ounces) of it and it was the nastiest thing I have ever tasted.

Ruth, Udo's oil is foul too ... but not as bad as vinegar. I just add Udo's to my protein shakes. Still can taste it, but not as bad.

Besides, cold-pressed flax oil is better for fat loss anyway ... just don't use it long-term.
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Old Wed, Apr-03-02, 10:31
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Hey Trainer Dan,
I really enjoyed your insights into Coke. I've always been a Pepsi person...well, before LC. But now I barely ever drink soda. I don't like the taste of diet soda, and have sworn off of the sugary stuff. I drink water, water, and then more water. I try to tell my friends to drink more water for their health. But some people are really weird about water. They won't drink it unless it has some flavor. I would rather drink tasteless water than have health problems. Truly! Victoria
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How much I like water is highly variable. There are times when it is just real bland - not objectionable but just not enjoyable. But there are times when it is the sweetest, most refreshing thing in the world and I can't imagine anything that could taste better. I was this way even when I was downing serious amounts of diet pepsi and am even more so now that I drink exclusively water (1 can of DP in ten weeks and no other drinks other than the three EAS protein shakes that I've had recently as part of BFL).
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Trainerdan
Bebe, I don't know how you did it. I tried one "shot" (1.5 ounces) of it and it was the nastiest thing I have ever tasted.

Hi Trainerdan- LOL! Hahaha , so u've been had too..... BTW, I always thought that vinegar was a chics' drink
Have a great day, Trainerdan!

Bebe
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Old Thu, Apr-04-02, 04:31
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Thumbs down Urban legend...

I hate to rain on your parade, Dan, but the Coke stuff is, well, a lot of hogwash.
Have a look here:
http://www.snopes2.com/cokelore/acid.htm

Mind you, I'm not suggesting anyone drinks soft drink rather than water! I can't imagine not drinking my 5-6 L daily.

Rosebud
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Old Thu, Apr-04-02, 05:19
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Well, the fact that Coke contains phosphoric acid is not hogwash. And the fact that phosphoric acid will leach calcium from your bones is also not hogwash.

One of the first things doctors tell patients who are at risk for osterporosis is to stop drinking carbonated soft drinks.

To each his/her own ...
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Old Thu, Apr-04-02, 09:55
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"You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of coke and it will
be gone in two days. "

You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of stomach acid and it will be gone in about two hours.



Consider these facts about water:
- it is a major component of acid rain
- it is a major cause of severe burns, hospitalizing thousands annually
- it is highly corrosive to many metals
- it has been found in the excised tumours of cancer patients
- a cause of severe tissue damage when excessively exposed to its solid form
- symptoms of its consumption, especially in excess, can include excessive sweating and urination, bloating, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance.

(couldn't resist. borrowed from http://www.physics.uwo.ca/~harwood/dhmo.html)

Although phosporic acid may cause some calcium leeching, so does high protein. Osteoporosis can be caused by a diet deficient in one of at least 15 nutrients. It has way too many potential causes to suggest that soda is a major culprit.

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