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Old Tue, Aug-09-11, 21:30
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There's really not enough starch in the lower carb ones to count it IMO. You're looking at trace at best in some products. Others definitely have more. For the lower carb ones, it's like 1-8 grams of carbohydrate per serving, with some of the higher ones having other vegetables (like onion) pumping up the carb count. Less than if I relied more on beans and fewer bean side effects. If I were to eat the ones with more grain or a coating (which I wouldn't normally), I'd count it.

Sounds like you've got a good handle on Quorn and its ingredients.
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Very interested in this thread and the original post because I've been wondering about SB and fat. I had great success on SB recently, lost 20lbs (a miracle for me) and then got all gung-ho about low carb generally. I broke a 6 week stall by adding fat (learned from a thread on this website) and was amazed by it. So....I went searching for all the articles and information I could lay my hands on about every lc plan I could find. The result: I'm utterly confused!

All that confusion and mixing and matching showed up this morning in a 2lb weight gain - the first actual gain since I started lc. I've read enough great advice on this website to know it's not necessary to panic. Therefore I am NOT going to give in to my first instinct which was to just stop eating altogether for a day or two (old habits stay to haunt us, sigh). But it has made me resolve to go back to where I was having success, SB, and start again - albeit 18lbs lighter this time, yea! Judy's journey and willingness to help others is tremendously inspirational to me, so at the risk of sounding like a Judy groupie, if she is adding fat to SB but watching the numbers, then I'm going to give that a try too.

Has anybody else gone off the deep end with mixing and matching lc plans and ended up gaining weight? What did you do to turn it around and start losing again?
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Very interested in this thread and the original post because I've been wondering about SB and fat. I had great success on SB recently, lost 20lbs (a miracle for me) and then got all gung-ho about low carb generally. I broke a 6 week stall by adding fat (learned from a thread on this website) and was amazed by it. So....I went searching for all the articles and information I could lay my hands on about every lc plan I could find. The result: I'm utterly confused!

All that confusion and mixing and matching showed up this morning in a 2lb weight gain - the first actual gain since I started lc. I've read enough great advice on this website to know it's not necessary to panic. Therefore I am NOT going to give in to my first instinct which was to just stop eating altogether for a day or two (old habits stay to haunt us, sigh). But it has made me resolve to go back to where I was having success, SB, and start again - albeit 18lbs lighter this time, yea! Judy's journey and willingness to help others is tremendously inspirational to me, so at the risk of sounding like a Judy groupie, if she is adding fat to SB but watching the numbers, then I'm going to give that a try too.

Has anybody else gone off the deep end with mixing and matching lc plans and ended up gaining weight? What did you do to turn it around and start losing again?

Hi,
If you can post a few days of your food, I can help you figure it out.

'Judy groupie' I like that!
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Old Fri, Aug-19-11, 11:36
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Hey, thanks! I want to be accurate so I'll have to check the handwritten log I keep at home when I get in tonight and then I'll post. Not quite savvy enough to do a journal/P.L.A.N. on line yet but I'll get there eventually.
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Judy: Here are a few days from my food log prior to the 2lb weight gain. I'm 62 so TOM isn't an issue. I walk about an hour every day; lift weights every other day; drink tons of water all day long. According to my food log I was "very very tired" during this time, whereas I usually have good energy. Your insights are appreciated!
Sunday
Breakfast: Omelet (2 large eggs) cooked in coconut oil
1non-fat Greek yogurt
1 cup decaf coffee with heavy cream
Lunch: 6oz Cod sauted in coconut oil
1 cup each steamed broccoli/cauliflower w/ melted cheddar cheese on top
2 squares 90% chocolate
2 oz raspberries
1oz walnuts
Evening: Cup of homemade vegetable soup
2 decaf coffees with heavy cream
Monday
Breakfast: 1 cup half-caf with heavy cream
1 cup decaf with heavy cream (no time for breakfast)
Lunch: 3oz baked Cuttlefish
cup sauted vegetables
1.5 glasses of wine
Dinner: 3 slices bacon
2 large eggs fried in the bacon fat
6oz glass of almond milk
1 square 90% chocolate
1 string cheese
10 walnuts (apprx.)
Tuesday
Breakfast: 1 large egg, hard-boiled
1 cup half-caf with heavy cream
1 cup decaf with heavy cream
Snack: 1 large egg, hard-boiled
1 string cheese
3 or 4 strawberries
Lunch: 4 slices roast beef
1 cup grilled vegetables
1 non-fat Greek yogurt
3 or 4 strawberries
Snack: 1 string cheese
Dinner: 2 slices bacon
2 cups steamed cauliflower with melted cheddar cheese
mixed green salad with shredded cheddar cheese topping
Wednesday
Breakfast: 2 large eggs and 2 slices bacon
Lunch: 4oz hummus and 2 cups celery
Snack: 1 non-fat Greek yogurt
Dinner: 2 lamb chops
2 cups salad with shredded cheddar cheese
2 squares 90% chocolate
10 walnuts
Snack: 2 slices of bacon
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Hi,
We're very close in age( I'm 61) so please take this into consideration when I tell you a couple of things.
IMO, you are a bit heavy on dairy and a bit too light on the veggies. While I don't use low fat dairy much, I do use it a bit when looking to keep total calories down.
At your current weight and height, you'll need to keep your totals calories down to about 1200-1300 tops, to keep seeing losses.
I'd try to up the veggies for 2 weeks and knock out the cheese and nuts for the same 2 weeks. I'd also replace the heavy cream with H&H and keep its use to an absolute minimum.
I also think that you should eat according to the SBD meal plan guide for these 2 weeks. I'm going to bring it here for you. Its located, with the food lists, in the weighin thread, 2nd and 3rd posts.
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SBD Phase I food list and Meal Plan Chart

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SBD Phase I food list
BEEF Lean* cuts, such as:
Bottom Round
Eye of Round
Flank Steak
Ground beef:
Extra lean
Lean Sirloin
London Broil
Pastrami, lean
Sirloin Steak
T-bone
Tenderloin (filet mignon) (common name for tenderloin steaks)
Top Loin
Top Round

* Lean meat has, per 100 gram portion, 10 grams or less of total fat and 4.5 grams or less of saturated fat.

POULTRY (SKINLESS)

Cornish hen
Ground breast of chicken
Ground breast of turkey
Low-fat turkey sausage (3-6 grams of fat per 60 gram serving) Removed limit/recommendation: can be eaten as an occasional treat (approximately once/week)
Turkey bacon Removed limit/recommendation: (2 slices per day)
Turkey and chicken breast

SEAFOOD

All types of fish and shellfish Added: (limit those high in mecury and other contaminants such as swordfish, tilefish, shark and albacore/white tuna-use light tuna instead.)
Water-packed tuna and other canned fish
Salmon roe
Sashimi

PORK

Boiled ham
Canadian bacon
Loin Added specifcs of chop or roast
Tenderloin

VEAL

Chop
Cutlet, leg
Top round

LAMB (Remove all visible fat)

Center Cut
Chop
Loin

GAME MEATS (Added new section)
Buffalo
Elk
Ostrich
Venison

LUNCHMEAT

Fat-free or low-fat only
Boiled ham
Deli sliced turkey breast
Steamship roast beef
Smoked ham

MEAT SUBSTITUTES (SOY BASED)

Unless otherwise stated, look for products that have 6 grams of fat or less per 2-3 ounce serving
Soy Bacon
Soy Burger
Soy Chicken unbreaded
Soy hot dogs
Sausage Patties and Links Limit removed: Limit 1 patty or 2 links per day
Seiten
Soy Crumbles - 1/4 cup (2 oz) suggested serving
Tempeh 1/4 cup suggested serving
Tofu All varieties, 1/2 cup suggested serving
Yuba (Bean Curd or Sheet)

CHEESE (FAT-FREE OR LOW-FAT)

Look for varieties that have 6 grams of fat or less/ounce
American
Cheddar
Cottage cheese, 1-2% or fat-free
Feta
Mozzarella
Parmesan
Part-skim Ricotta
Part-skim String
Provolone
Swiss

EGGS

The use of whole eggs is not limited unless otherwise directed by your doctor. Use egg whites and egg substitute as desired.

MILK/DAIRY

(2 cups allowed daily, including yogurt)
Low-fat milk (fat-free and 1%)
Fat-free 1/2 & 1/2 (less than 2 tablespoons)
Low-fat plain, vanilla, or sucralose-containing soy milk (4 grams of fat or less per 8 ounce serving). Be sure the product does not contain high fructose corn syrup
1% or fat-free buttermilk
Fat-free plain yogurt
Greek Yogurt nonfat - Added


BEANS/LEGUMES

(Start with 1/3 - 1/2 cup serving)
Adzuki Beans
Black Beans
Black-eyed peas
Broad Beans
Butter Beans
Cannellini Beans
Chickpeas or Garbanzo
Edamame
Great Northern Beans
Italian Beans
Kidney Beans
Lentils
Lima Beans
Mung Beans
Navy Beans
Pigeon Peas
Pinto Beans
Refried beans fat free canned - Added
Soy Beans (also known as edamame)
Split Peas
White Beans


VEGETABLES

(May use fresh, frozen or canned without added sugar)
Artichokes
Artichoke hearts - Added
Arugula
Asparagus
Broccoli
Broccoli rabe - Added
Broccoli sprouts - Added
Bok Choy
Brussels Sprouts
Cabbage
Capers
Cauliflower
Celery
Chayote
Chicory - Deleted
Collard Greens
Cucumbers
Daikon radish - Added
Eggplant
Endive
Escarole - Added
Fennel
Fiddlehead ferns - Added
Garlic
Grape leaves - Added
Green Beans
Hearts of palm
Jicama
Kale
Kohlrabi - Added
Leeks
Lettuce (All varieties)
Mushrooms (All varieties)
Mustard Greens
Nopales - Deleted
Okra
Onions
Parsley
Pepperoncini - Added
Peppers (All varieties)
Pickles - Dill or artificially sweetened
Pimientos - Added
Radicchio
Radishes (All varieties)
Rhubarb
Sauerkraut
Scallions
Sea Vegetables (seaweed, nori)
Shallots - Added
Snap Peas
Snow peas
Spinach
Sprouts
Squash, Spaghetti
Squash, Summer
# Yellow
# Zucchini
Swiss Chard
Tomato
Tomato Juice
Turnip Greens
Vegetable Juice Cocktail
Water Chestnuts
Watercress
Wax Beans
Zucchini


NUTS AND SEEDS

(Limit to one serving per day as specified. Dry roasted recommended.)
Almonds - 15
Brazil Nuts - 4
Cashews - 15
Edamame, dry roasted - 1/4 cup - Added
Filberts -25 - Added
Flax Seed - 3 TBS (1 oz)
Hazelnuts -25 - Added
Macadamia - 8
Peanut Butter, Natural, and other nut butters - 2 TBS
Peanuts, 20 small (May use dry roasted or boiled)
Pecans - 15
Pine Nuts (Pignolia) - 1 ounce
Pistachios - 30
Pumpkin Seeds - 3 TBS (1 oz)
Sesame Seeds - 3 TBS (1 oz)
Soy Nuts - 1/4 cup
Sunflower Seeds - 3 TBS (1 oz)
Walnuts - 15


FATS/OILS

The following monounsaturated oils are recommended to be consumed daily:
Oil, canola
Oil, olive
Other Oil Choices that may be chosen (Polyunsaturated or a blend of Monounsaturated):
Corn
Flax
Grapeseed
Peanut
Safflower
Sesame
Soybean
Sunflower
Other Fat Choices:
Avocado - 1/3 whole = 1 TBS oil
Guacamole - 1/2 cup = 1 TBS oil
Margarine - Chose those that do not contain Trans Fatty Acids such as Fleishmann's Premium Olive Oil or Smart Balance
Mayonnaise - Regular - 1 TBS
Mayonnaise - Low Fat - 2 TBS (avoid varieties made with high fructose corn syrup)
Olives (Green or Ripe) 15 = 1/2 TBS oil
Salad Dressing - 2 TBS. Use those that contain 3 grams of sugar or less per 2 TBS. Best choices contain canola or olive oil. Low carb salad dressings may also be used if they meet these guidelines.


SEASONINGS AND CONDIMENTS

All spices that contain no added sugar
Broth
Coconut Milk -Light - Added
Espresso powder
Extracts (almond, vanilla, or others)
Horseradish sauce
Lemon Juice
Lime Juice
Pepper (black, cayenne, red, white)
Salsa (check labels for added sugar)
Use the following toppings and sauces sparingly (check labels for added sugar and MSG)
Cream Cheese, fat-free or light - 2 TBS
Hot Sauce
Low carb condiments, as long as they meet South Beach guidelines (have no added fat and are sugar-free/contain no added sugar)
Miso - 1/2 TBS
Shoyu - 1/2 TBS
Sour Cream, light and reduced-fat - 2 TBS
Soy Sauce - 1/2 TBS
Steak Sauce - 1/2 TBS
Tamari
Worcestershire Sauce - 1 TBS
Whipped Topping, Light or Fat-Free - 2 TBS

SWEET TREATS (Limit to 75 - 100 calories per day)

Sweet treats are items that contain sugar alcohols, such as:
Candies, hard, sugar-free
Chocolate powder, no-added-sugar
Cocoa powder, baking type
Chocolate syrup sugar free - Added
Fudgsicles, no sugar added
Gelatin, sugar-free
Gum, sugar-free
James and jellies, sugar-free
Popsicles, sugar-free
Syrups, sugar-free
Some Sugar Free Products may be made with sugar alcohols (isomalt, lactitol, mannitol, sorbitol or xylitol) and are permitted on the SBD. They may have associated side effects of GI distress (abdominal pain, diarrhea & gas) if consumed in excessive amounts.


SUGAR SUBSTITUTES

Acesulfame K
Fructose (needs to be counted as Sweet Treats, Caloric Limit)
Nutrasweet (Equal)
Saccharin (Sweet & Low)
Sucralose (Splenda)


BEVERAGES

Decaf Coffee and Tea
Diet, decaffeinated, sugar-free sodas and drinks
Herbal teas (peppermint, chamomile, etc.)
Milk (1% or fat-free) and soymilk (low-fat plain). See MILK/DAIRY.
Sugar-free powdered drink mixes
Vegetable Juice
Tomato Juice - Added
Deleted: Note: caffeinated coffee or diet sodas with caffeine added are allowed, but limited to 1 - 2 servings per day

Phase 1 Foods to Avoid
BEEF
Brisket
Jerky, unless homemade without sugar
Liver
Prime rib
Rib steak
Skirt steak


POULTRY
Chicken, wings and legs
Duck
Goose
Turkey, dark meat (including wings and thighs)


PORK
Bacon
Honey-baked ham
Pork rinds


VEAL
Breast


DAIRY
Ice cream
Milk, 2% or whole
Soymilk, whole
Yogurt, cup-style and frozen


CHEESE
Full-fat

FRUIT
Avoid all fruits and fruit juices on Phase 1.




VEGETABLES
Beets
Carrots
Corn
Green peas
Potatoes, sweet
Potatoes, white
Pumpkin
Squash, winter
Turnips (root)
Yams


STARCHES AND CARBS
Avoid all starchy food in Phase 1, including:

Bread, all types
Cereal, all types
Croutons, all types
Matzo
Oatmeal
Pasta, all types
Pastries and baked goods, all types
Rice, all types


CONDIMENTS
Cocktail sauce
Ketchup


BEVERAGES
Alcohol of any kind, including beer and wine
Fruit juice, all types
Milk, full-fat and 2%
Powdered drink mixes containing sugar
Soda and other drinks containing sugar
Soymilk with more than 4 g fat per 8 oz. serving
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SBD Meal Plan Chart
How To Adapt Your Meal Plan- Phase I

The South Beach Diet? is designed so that you can easily swap meals and ingredients. If you don't like eggs for breakfast, have low-fat cottage cheese or lean meat instead. Not a fish lover? Then choose lean beef or poultry. In Phase 1 of the diet, you can eat as many proteins and vegetables as you like, plus fats like olive oil. Fruit and starches aren't allowed until Phase 2. Here's a look at some general eating guidelines. For specific food choices, check out the Phase 1 Foods to Enjoy & Avoid list.

BREAKFAST
Protein: Quantity is not limited. Start with a 2 oz. portion, eat slowly, go back for seconds if still hungry.

Vegetables: Minimum 1/2 cup or 6-8 oz. tomato or vegetable juice.

Fruit: None

Starch: None

Milk/Dairy: 2 cups allowed daily (including yogurt)

Fat: 1 tsp mayonnaise, trans-free margarine, or oil (optional)



SNACK
Snacks are required. Choose a protein, vegetable, fat-free plain yogurt, or nuts/seeds. A snack that combines protein (1 oz.) and vegetables is encouraged.

LUNCH
Protein: Quantity is not limited. Start with a 3 oz. portion, eat slowly, go back for seconds if still hungry.

Vegetables: Minimum 2 cups.
We encourage you to include a serving of beans (1/3-1/2 cup) as part of your vegetables.


Fruit: None

Starch: None

Milk/Dairy: 2 cups allowed daily (including yogurt)

Fat: 1 Tbsp mayonnaise, trans-free margarine or oil, or 2 Tbsp salad dressing



SNACK
Snacks are required. Choose a protein, vegetable, fat-free plain yogurt, or nuts/seeds. A snack that combines protein (1 oz.) and vegetables is encouraged.

DINNER
Protein: Quantity is not limited. Start with a 3 oz. portion, eat slowly, go back for seconds if still hungry.

Vegetables:Minimum 2 cups.
We encourage you to include a serving of beans (1/3-1/2 cup) as part of your vegetables.

Fruit: None

Starch: None

Milk/Dairy: 2 cups allowed daily (including yogurt)

Fat: 1 Tbsp mayonnaise, trans-free margarine or oil, or 2 Tbsp salad dressing



DESSERT / EVENING SNACK
Desserts are optional. Enjoy some of your Sweet Treat allowance, a dessert, or any of the snack choices.

SWEET TREATS
Sweet Treats are products that contain sugar alcohols. You can enjoy them throughout the day to satisfy your sweet tooth ? just limit yourself to roughly 75 calories worth per day to avoid any GI distress.
See a list of Sweet Treat options here

BEVERAGES
Diet, decaffeinated, sugar-free drinks are not limited. You can enjoy caffeinated coffee or diet sodas with caffeine added, but limit to 1 - 2 servings per day.

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In my experience, following this meal plan chart will be very helpful to you in learning to eat this way for life.
I drink 2 cups of coffee in the mornings and use H&H at that time. 1 tbs in each cup. Not using heavy cream limits my calories and I'm not using low fat or fat free. I think that you are too heavy on the heavy cream.

So ....while I don't do low fat per se, I do control fat and as far as I'm concerned, controlling calorie dense foods is key when we are close to our ideal weight.

Questions?

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Thank you! You know, when I typed the food list I noticed there could have been more vegetable entries. It's a pity about the dairy (I do enjoy it) but I'll follow your advice carefully and post in 2 weeks with the results. Get ready scales, I'll be baaaaack.
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Thank you! You know, when I typed the food list I noticed there could have been more vegetable entries. It's a pity about the dairy (I do enjoy it) but I'll follow your advice carefully and post in 2 weeks with the results. Get ready scales, I'll be baaaaack.

I did not say to eliminate all dairy....I said that it looked like you are a bit heavy on the dairy. When chosing full fat, it does need to kept to a minimum.

If you like, you can start your own journ al here and use that to log your food daily. MYPLAN is too time consuming for me so I used my journal for a food log.
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Just realised I never did return to this thread to post results. I had been trying to get rid of a 2lb weight gain. After 2 weeks following Judy's advice, I lost 1lb. Then a few days later had a sudden whoosh and lost another 2lbs. Woohooo!!!! Thanks, Judy. I now realise I have to watch total calories to keep losing and that losses from here on in are going to be excruciatingly slooooooow. I'm back to losing nothing or .2lb. But that's okay. There's another whoosh coming my way eventually.
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Just realised I never did return to this thread to post results. I had been trying to get rid of a 2lb weight gain. After 2 weeks following Judy's advice, I lost 1lb. Then a few days later had a sudden whoosh and lost another 2lbs. Woohooo!!!! Thanks, Judy. I now realise I have to watch total calories to keep losing and that losses from here on in are going to be excruciatingly slooooooow. I'm back to losing nothing or .2lb. But that's okay. There's another whoosh coming my way eventually.

Good job!
If you want to get very serious about this, do not eat out for 2 weeks straight and no alcohol either.
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I have got to do low carb and low fat. Dr. said that was because I have carotid artery disease,bummer
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I have got to do low carb and low fat. Dr. said that was because I have carotid artery disease,bummer


CAD certainly is a bummer, however your food doesn't have to be. There are tons of LC options/ recipes that are also lower in fat or utilizes fats that are good for you (olive, canola, etc..) Check out the recipe thread in the SB forum to get some ideas.
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Plan: Low carb, low gi
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I am doing SB phase one but I don't agree with the reduced fat concept. So I am combining SB and Atkins principles. Is anyone else doing this? So mainly I am eating the foods allowed on SB phase one but ignoring the reduced fat component..I will be eating butter, and higher fat dairy and meats. Just wondering if anyone else is doing this. Also increasing my sea salt intake.


I actually do well on South Beach with Atkins level fat (120 grams per day). I've had no issues with this and my cholesterol has improved as well. Recently, I have cut out dairy. This is only because I was stalling.

I think you should be okay but I would highly recommend doing regular bloodwork to know what's going on with your body. Weight loss isn't the only marker as many wise folk have said on this site and elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by MPrufrock
I actually do well on South Beach with Atkins level fat (120 grams per day). I've had no issues with this and my cholesterol has improved as well. Recently, I have cut out dairy. This is only because I was stalling.

I think you should be okay but I would highly recommend doing regular bloodwork to know what's going on with your body. Weight loss isn't the only marker as many wise folk have said on this site and elsewhere.

Hi,
I do it that way too! Its been working for me for a very long time now.

However, I don't go over board adding fat as I still use the SBD meal plan guide with its portion controls.
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