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Old Mon, Sep-08-08, 07:58
Cajunboy47 Cajunboy47 is offline
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Default You Can't Do What I Do.....

This is sort of a disclaimer post....

Many people would agree, we're all different and what works for one person, doesn't necessarily work for another. I agree with this, but I like to explain it a little differently.


The things I once did that worked for me, might not work for me now, or are not necessary for me to do now. The things I do now that work, could not have necessarily worked in the past.

I can't compare myself to myself, thus I can conclude it is highly unlikely that someone else could start doing what I do and have the same results....

If someone has about the same health status as I do, it is possible their results might be close to mine if they did everything the same way as I do, but there is no guarantee in that either, just more probability.

I have posted my supplement and medicine intake in the past, in my journal. It has changed from time to time, sometimes with good results, sometimes without good results, but always as an experiment to improve control of my health. I will be posting my current regime in my journal very soon, which I just changed to a few days ago, but I am not posting it to suggest this would work for anyone else, just sharing my journey as I battle with Diabetes and Weight loss and overall changes in health....

So, my point is; I don't think anyone can look at what someone else is currently doing and do the same thing and expect the same results. This is not to say they couldn't have similar results at some given point in time. It is just not likely that anyone could switch to what someone else is doing at the present time and get the same results.

So, for all those who are reading things I've posted now or in the past; please don't mistake my enthusiasm at my documenting my successes as a suggestion that you try to do what I do.....

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I can say one thing that I truly believe we should all do and I do believe we can all have some success at it...... I've learned this through my experience. Anyone is free to believe me or not believe me.....

Here is what I believe:

Eat and exercise and use supplements and/or medicines for improvement of health and forget about doing things for the sake of losing weight. I think weight loss is a double edged sword.

Weight loss can and should be an outward sign of improved health. Weight loss, unfortunately, can be achieved without improvement in health.

I strongly believe we should eat for health and not eat to lose weight. To me, I can now clearly see a difference. I achieved weight loss both ways since I began low carb dieting. Eating for health, to me, is way easier and better.
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Old Mon, Sep-08-08, 08:18
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Ron
We can see what works for someone else and,at our own discretion,try what works for the other person but,if we
encounter unfortunate results,in no way should we hold
the other person responsible.Like sellers of "nutritional supplements",maybe we should always add "This statement has
not been evaluated by the FDA"(just joking).
Eddie
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Old Mon, Sep-08-08, 09:12
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I've been thinking about this lately. What other people are doing could give someone else good ideas, if they are looking for some, but you will not necessarily get the same results. We are not all starting at the same point with Diabetes Types and complications, then add different lifestyles, ages, allergies etc...Aren't even insulin doses and formats different, depending on the individual?
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Old Mon, Sep-08-08, 10:26
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"Aren't even insulin doses and formats different, depending on the individual?"
Insulin doses vary depending on insulin type(s) used,the individual and what the individual eats(number of carbs).
Maybe some of the insulin users might want to comment on this.
Cheers from Houston
Eddie
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Old Mon, Sep-08-08, 10:46
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I agree with you Ron! We all share having Diabetes, but it really does seem that what works for one person, doesn't necessarily for the next. It's all an experiment day by day. It's also true that it changes in time within the same person. I'm not treating it the same today as I was 10 years ago.
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Old Mon, Sep-08-08, 10:52
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You know what.....it is starting to look to me like we should dub it the DIY Disease, but meaning Deal With It Yourself...
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Old Mon, Sep-08-08, 10:53
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Sharing our experiences may or may not help others, but at the same time, it can help us to reinforce our good behaviors just through the process of journaling or posting our thoughts, plans, etc....

I was just thinking how we probably help each other most by the very idea that we learn from each other that it is good to learn continually, it is good to monitor always and it is good to experiment with something new when what we are currently doing is failing us in some way.

So, in helping others through sharing our experiences, we are helping ourselves in a round-a-bout sort of way...

Another thing.... I post most of what I do, but not all of what I do. Even when trying to be somewhat precise in documenting a day, I'm sure it is not all recorded. So, I must make an assumption when trying to gain from what others do, that it is an idea to try, but making adustments and modifying what others are doing is just part of the process.... Sort of like cooking without a recipe, but knowing how to combine the ingredients to end up with something edible...
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Old Mon, Sep-08-08, 11:24
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So, in helping others through sharing our experiences, we are helping ourselves in a round-a-bout sort of way...


teamwork
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Old Mon, Sep-08-08, 11:35
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Learn.Adjust.Relearn.Readjust.
It's not just true for diabetes.It's true for life.
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Old Mon, Sep-08-08, 11:39
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Sharing our experiences may or may not help others, but at the same time, it can help us to reinforce our good behaviors just through the process of journaling or posting our thoughts, plans, etc....

I was just thinking how we probably help each other most by the very idea that we learn from each other that it is good to learn continually, it is good to monitor always and it is good to experiment with something new when what we are currently doing is failing us in some way.


Well you inspired me without me doing exactly what you are doing. All the talk about Chinese herbs, gave me some ideas about putting some elements of European herbal traditions into my routine. I would consider TCM as an option in some situations, but I would be dependent on a specialist proffessional about it. I know about the European system, and so would most doctors and chemists around here if I needed help.
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Old Mon, Sep-08-08, 11:41
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Learn.Adjust.Relearn.Readjust.
It's not just true for diabetes.It's true for life.
Eddie


Eddie, can I use that as a yoga mantra? - it is brilliant.
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Old Mon, Sep-08-08, 11:44
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Upper body visceral obesity is very bad for type 2 diabetes:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/564135

Fat is not simply benign; it is hormonally active and inflammatory, depending on its location.

I'm sure it must be very hard to lose weight when you are insulin resistant.

If the above link doesn't work try this one:

http://www.google.com/search?q=visc...type+2+diabetes

and click on the 4th article titled:

The Impact of Obesity on Type 2 Diabetes: The Role of Visceral Fat ..[

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Old Mon, Sep-08-08, 12:28
Cajunboy47 Cajunboy47 is offline
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Plan: Eat Fat, Get Thin
Stats: 212/162/155 Male 68 "
BF:32/23.5/23.5
Progress: 88%
Location: Breaux Bridge, La
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Originally Posted by lowcarbUgh
Upper body visceral obesity is very bad for type 2 diabetes:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/564135

Fat is not simply benign; it is hormonally active and inflammatory, depending on its location.

I'm sure it must be very hard to lose weight when you are insulin resistant.

If the above link doesn't work try this one:

http://www.google.com/search?q=visc...type+2+diabetes

and click on the 4th article titled:

The Impact of Obesity on Type 2 Diabetes: The Role of Visceral Fat ..[


I think you must have meant to post this in another thread... It seems like another topic to me... ???
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Weight loss is very important for diabetes management. You can eat for both health and weight loss.
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