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Old Wed, Sep-12-01, 07:49
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Plan: LC paleo
Stats: 241/188/140 Female 165 cm
BF:
Progress: 52%
Location: Eastern ON, Canada
Default Week 4, Day in cycle: 2

Monday, 10 September

Today's program: Fat Fast

Menu

- 2 Tbsp flax oil
- 3 Tbsp Snøfrisk (goat cream cheese) w. 2 egg yolks, 1 Tbsp melted ghee, vanilla, nutmeg, dot liquid SugarTwin .. baked in toaster oven ... nice and golden and "crusty"
- 3/4 c. shredded spinach, 1/4 c. chopped parsley, 1 green onion, 1 Tbsp olive oil, 1 c. home-made chicken broth .. puréed
- 2 mugs black coffee
- pot green tea, 4 liters water.

calories: 1002
Fat: 104g (93%)
Carbs: 8g (2%) / Fiber: 2g
Protein: 13g (5%)

Activity: rower 15 min + 10 min upper body w. incr. tension

Thoughts: Tues. 11 September 2001 ... shall remain a black hole in this Group project. I ate very little, drank 6 coffees w. cream, and I lost count of the clear tea. Lots of water too. No appetite ... I cooked up a simple grd. beef patty, but could barely eat half. The rest I threw out. I'll carry on today with the Calorie Boost ... so that my days in the cycle will be set back by one day.

Doreen

Weight is 176 today.
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Old Fri, Sep-14-01, 05:59
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Plan: LC paleo
Stats: 241/188/140 Female 165 cm
BF:
Progress: 52%
Location: Eastern ON, Canada
Default Week 4, Day in cycle: 3

Wednesday, 12 September

Today's program: Calorie Boost

Menu

- 2 Tbsp flax oil
- 2 eggs, 6 slices crisp bacon
- Broccoli Dip (recipe posted in HighCarb Green Veg. thread), bag of pork rinds (I used 175g broccoli)
- 1/2 rotisserie chicken from deli, 150g steamed green beans, 1/2 Tbsp ghee
- 2 black coffees
- 2 L water, 1 L mineral water

calories: 2237
Fat: 181g (74%)
Carbs: 25g (3%) / Fiber: 10g
Protein: 130g (24%)

cal per lb = 12.8 (close enough )

Activity: yapped on the phone all day, thankful for cheap long-distance rates! Walked dowtown ~ 1 hr.
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Old Fri, Sep-14-01, 06:22
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Plan: LC paleo
Stats: 241/188/140 Female 165 cm
BF:
Progress: 52%
Location: Eastern ON, Canada
Default Week 4, Day in cycle: 4

Thursday, 13 September

Today's program: Stillman/Lean Protein

Menu

- 11 oz. lean grd turkey, cooked and chili-seasoned ... used half in a "taco omelet", other half on salad greens later in day
- 8 Tbsp BreakFree egg substitute + 2 egg whites
- 140g mahi mahi fillet w. grainy dijon .. broiled
- 6 oz. chicken breast
- diet Jello
- 1 cup mesclun greens
- 2 black coffees
- 2.5 L water, 1.5 L mineral water

calories: 894
Fat: 29g (31%)
Carbs: 5g (2%) / Fiber: 1g
Protein: 143g (67%)

cal per lb = 5.1

Activity: rower 15 minutes, 10 minutes upper body/arms;

Thoughts: had massage therapy ... every Fibro. tender point is active. Ouch. Stress this week is high, wonder why?

Weight is levelling off at 175 --- my IBS flare had settled, then I went and ate those salad greens Thursday ... and within 2 hrs ... bloat, gas, cramping .... I think I'd better lay off raw veggies for a few more days. Or take Beano ...

Doreen
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Old Fri, Sep-14-01, 17:38
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Plan: Atkins,PP - wgt in %
Stats: 100/96.8/69 Female 5'6.5"
BF:DWTK/DDare/JEnuf
Progress: 10%
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Cool 1 day behind ya.....

and happy happy happy this study is going to end soon, though I also will be taking away elements of learning and (I hope!) continued progress.

Hang in there, dearest Doreen, we can only send our best and most positive thoughts around the world right now (and wear r/w/b ribbons or something).

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Old Sat, Sep-15-01, 10:54
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doreen T doreen T is offline
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Plan: LC paleo
Stats: 241/188/140 Female 165 cm
BF:
Progress: 52%
Location: Eastern ON, Canada
Default Week 4, Day in cycle: 5

Friday, 14 September

Today's program: Calorie Boost

Menu

- 1 SF bratwurst, cooked and crumbled w. 1 egg + 1 white "quiche"
- bag of pork rinds w. Brussels Sprout Dip (used 150g sprouts)
- 12 oz eye of round, marinated in olive oil, garlic, red wine vinegar, salt & pepper; 1 cup green beans w. 1/2 Tbsp butter
- 2 black coffees
- pot tea, 2 liters water

calories: 2439
Fat: 202g (76%)
Carbs: 26g (3%) / Fiber: 9g
Protein: 130g (22%)

cal per lb = 14

Activity: walked ~ 1 hr

Thoughts: weight today seems to want to dip back below the 175 mark again -- I'll wait till the end (Monday a.m.) to officially measure and record. I may also choose to discount my recorded starting weight .. 180 ... since that was an overnight spike of 2 lbs (I had been averaging 178 for weeks) ...So, for the sake of accuracy .. it would be better to keep 178 as my start weight. Tentatively, it seems I've lost 3+ lbs overall, during the 4 weeks of the study. For me that translates to success .. but I need to sit back, compile (and digest!!) the data .. and sort out what things were helpful ... what were not. Hopefully I'll come up with a plan for the future ... using the insights I've gained from participating in this group project.

Doreen
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Old Sat, Sep-15-01, 12:03
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: 145?/131/125 Female 5'1"
BF:
Progress:
Default good work

You've put a lot of work and thought into the last few weeks of eating. You've got great dedication....

{{{{{Hugs}}}}}

Three pounds is great....I'll take that!!!
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Old Mon, Sep-17-01, 01:23
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Plan: LC paleo
Stats: 241/188/140 Female 165 cm
BF:
Progress: 52%
Location: Eastern ON, Canada
Default Week 4, Day in cycle: 6

Saturday, 15 September

Today's program: Regular Low-Carb

Menu

- 2 Tbsp flax oil
- bacon, goat cheese, spinach, green onion, red bell pepper quiche (2 eggs + 8 Tbsp BreakFree egg subst) .... ate half at brekkie, other half cold for lunch
- 3 chicken thighs, topped w. mayo & herbs .. baked, skin eaten
- 1 cup brussels sprouts, butter, fresh lemon juice
- 3 coffees, 1 tsp 18% cream in each
- 1.5 L water, 1 L mineral water

Total: 1709
Fat: 126g (68%)
Carbs: 23g (4%) / Fiber: 6g = 17g ECC
Protein: 117g (28%)

cal per lb = 9.82

Activity: hike 4.5 km

Thoughts: almost over yayyyy!!

Doreen
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Old Mon, Sep-17-01, 02:01
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Plan: LC paleo
Stats: 241/188/140 Female 165 cm
BF:
Progress: 52%
Location: Eastern ON, Canada
Cool Week 4, Day in cycle: 7

Sunday, 16 September ... final day

Today's program: Regular Low-Carb

Menu

- 1/4 cup ground flax seeds as porridge, 1 tsp butter, 1 Tbsp SF Irish cream syrup .. not bad at all
- 3 chicken thighs, cold ... small mesclun greens salad w. olive oil & dijon
- 4 oz. fresh cheese curds
- 1/2 salmon quiche, w. zucchini, red pepper, green onion and herbs ... no cheese ... canned sockeye, 2 eggs .. will have other half tomorrow.
- 3 coffees w. 1 tsp cream in each
- 3 L water

Total: 1750 calories
Fat: 131g (68%)
Carbs: 27g (3%) / Fiber: 12g = 15g ECC
Protein: 124g 497 (29%)

cal per lb = 10

Activity: hike 2.5 km, new area .. I plan to go back tomorrow w. camera

Thoughts: The actual Study is complete for me. However, I will now go back over the 4 weeks, and work out the raw data etc .. and my thoughts on what I have gleaned from this.

wt. this morning = 174, will measure in a.m.

Doreen
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Old Mon, Sep-17-01, 06:40
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Plan: modified Dr. A
Stats: 214.5/214.5/150 Male 66 in.
BF:
Progress: 0%
Location: Mississauga, Ontario
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Congratulations Doreen on surviving the Group Experiment.

I am looking forward to reading your analysis after you have absorbed the raw data in your posts.

Some points you may want to consider;

1. Which low calorie "Fast" days do you consider healthier to continue on an ongoing basis. Fat Fast or Stillman's? And why?

2. Which is more important; Certain percentage ratios of Protein, Fat, and Carbs, or just Low Carbs? If the former, which percentage ratios should we try to achieve?

3. Can we relate the calories per pound of body weight more closely to our activity level? If so, how? I have tried to analyse the methods of arriving at BMR and AMR from Internet calaulators and have found them all over the "map". The original BMR calculation is based on a design created nearly a hundred years ago and I feel is out of date to the current life style.

4. What weight loss rate per week or month should we consider to be healthiest based on age, height, and starting weight?

Something to mull over, Doreen.

Regards
Joe

P.S. Anyways congratulations on you successfully breaking the "plateau"!
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Old Mon, Sep-17-01, 14:08
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Plan: LC paleo
Stats: 241/188/140 Female 165 cm
BF:
Progress: 52%
Location: Eastern ON, Canada
Cool weight and measurements

Today's weight: 173.5 .... 4½ lbs net loss over the 4 weeks of the study. I'm still digesting this happiness ... this is my lowest weight since 1996. I'm so afraid it will go away, and tomorrow, I'll jet right back up to 180 and stay there till Christmas.

Measurements: differences are from the beginning of this study.

- bust 40" ... (-1")
- ribcage 33.25" ... (n/c)
- waist 32" ... (-0.75")
- hip 6" below waist 42" ... (- 0.5")
- hip 9" below waist 44" ... (-0.75")
- thigh Rt 25.5" .. (-0.5") / Lt 25.5" (n/c)
- knee Rt 18.75" .. (-0.25") / Lt 18.75" .. (n/c)
- ankle Rt 9.5" .. (-0.25") / Lt 9.5" .. (-0.25")
- upper arm Rt 13.75" .. (-0.25") / Lt 13.5" .. (-0.5")
- neck 13.5" (n/c)

Inches lost during this 4 week Study: 4.5

Thoughts: I'll take some time to muse over what this study has done for me. Insights, revelations, concerns ... given my own personal health and nutrition needs, etc. And how I'll use what I've learned as tools for the rest of my lowcarbing life

I'll try to offer suggestions to others Joe, as we all work over the next week to sort out our individual experiences.

Doreen
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Old Mon, Sep-17-01, 14:13
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Plan: Atkins/PP/BFL
Stats: 400/223/200 Male 5 ft 11
BF:37%/17%/12%
Progress: 89%
Location: Ottawa, ON
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Well done Doreen and congrats.

I think we've all learned a lot from this experiment, and I think we will learn from it, and possibly future experimentation!

Wa'il
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Old Tue, Sep-18-01, 18:26
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: 244/220/170 Female 65.4inches
BF:
Progress: 32%
Location: Ontario
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congratulations doreen - the loss is great news. May they NEVER come back. It has been very interesting to follow your plan and success.

BarB
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Old Tue, Sep-18-01, 20:13
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Plan: IF +LC
Stats: 287/165/165 Female 66"
BF:
Progress: 100%
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WTG Do!

It couldn't have happened to a nicer and more helpful person. I'm so happy for you!

Nat
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Old Tue, Sep-18-01, 20:21
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: 145?/131/125 Female 5'1"
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I'm looking forward to reading your thoughts about the study.

I agree with all the others....you certainly work hard at everything you do and deserve all the success that comes your way.




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Old Tue, Sep-25-01, 13:31
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Plan: LC paleo
Stats: 241/188/140 Female 165 cm
BF:
Progress: 52%
Location: Eastern ON, Canada
Post Nutrient Data & Comparisons

start weight - 178 lbs, end weight - 173.5

Daily Average - for the full 4 weeks

(note - actual daily counts used, divided by 28 days)

calories: 1673
fat: 126g (66.5%)
protein: 114.6g
carbs: 21.6g / fiber: 6.8g/ ECC: 14.8g

cal per lb = 9.56

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Fat Fast Average

calories: 1014
fat: 103.5g (91.5%)
protein: 15g
carbs: 11.5g / fiber: 4.3g / ECC: 7.2g
cal per lb = 5.79


Stillman/Lean Protein Average

calories: 915
fat: 20.5g (21%)
protein: 165g
carbs: 6.8g / fiber: 0.5g / ECC: 6.3g
cal per lb = 5.22


Calorie-Boost Average

calories: 2352
fat: 182.6g (70.8%)
protein: 155.1g
carbs: 25.2g / fiber: 8.6g / ECC: 16.6g
cal per lb = 13.44


Combined Fat Fast, Stillman & Calorie Boost Average

(note - actual count for each day used, divided by 16 days)

calories: 1658
fat: 122.3g (63.5%)
protein: 122.6g
carbs: 17.3g / fiber: 5.5g / ECC: 11.8g

cal per lb = 9.47

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Regular Low-Carb Average

(note - actual count for each day used, divided by 12 days)

calories: 1691
fat: 131.5g (70.5%)
protein: 104.1g
carbs: 27.5g / fiber: 8.4g / ECC: 19.1g

cal per lb = 9.66

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COMPARISONS

Calories

overall average - 1673
combined fast/cal. boost days - 1658
reg. low-carb days - 1691

Fat g (%)

overall average - 126g (66.5%)
combined fast/cal. boost days - 122.3 (63.5%)
reg. low-carb days - 131.5g (70.5%)

Protein

overall average - 114.6g
combined fast/cal. boost days - 122.6g
reg. low-carb days - 104.1g

Carbs / Fiber / ECC

overall average - 21.6g / 6.8g / 14.8g
combined fast/cal. boost days - 17.3g / 5.5g / 11.8g
reg. low-carb days - 27.5g / 8.4g / 19.1g

Calories per Lb

overall average - 9.56
combined fast/cal. boost days - 9.47
reg. low-carb days - 9.66

Analysis to follow. Will then post in "Observations and Speculations" thread, in this Study subforum for comments. http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthre...&threadid=20338

Doreen
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