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Old Mon, Mar-13-17, 13:34
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Default Diet ‘reverses diabetes in just 10 weeks’, claims new study

Express U.K. Article about Dr Hallberg's study and diabetes in general. Also mentions the Diabetes.uk.org study being conducted by Dr Unwin.

Diet ‘reverses diabetes in just 10 weeks’, claims new study

TYPE 2 diabetes can be reversed in 10 weeks with a high-fat and low carbohydrate diet tailored to the patient, claims a study.

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...-weeks-type-two

Dr Hallberg's study in JMIR: http://assets.virtahealth.com/docs/...ek_outcomes.pdf

Related to her study, Dr Unwin recently asked on Twitter (isn't that where professional information should be exchanged? ) which doctor had the biggest drop in HbA1c. It was Dr Mark Cucezella in West Virginia, who uses the Duke Clinic plan, but all the results from LC doctors are very impressive.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/doctor-h...-using-low-carb

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LC did enable me to be off my medications and my numbers were normal, but I never considered the disease reversed. Just my blood sugar readings.

As soon as you go back to a bowl of cereal, a sandwich, and spaghetti your BG will be out of control. I think it is important that people are not mislead. Diabetes is not reversed. BG readings are.
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LC did enable me to be off my medications and my numbers were normal, but I never considered the disease reversed. Just my blood sugar readings.

As soon as you go back to a bowl of cereal, a sandwich, and spaghetti your BG will be out of control. I think it is important that people are not mislead. Diabetes is not reversed. BG readings are.


Amen! My bg is great as long as I eat what doesn't raise it. I eat carbs or too much protein, bg goes up. That's the nature of diabetes - it doesn't get cured, just managed.
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New 38 minute interview with Dr Sarah Hallberg by Dr David Perlmutter.
She starts it off explaining treatment vs reversal of diabetes, including details of the Virta Health program and study parameters, etc. This is the first 70 day results, it is a two year study, more to come.

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On today’s program, you’ll discover that diabetes may be reversible by means of nutritional interventions. My guest is Dr. Sarah Hallberg, a strong proponent of a very low-carbohydrate approach, not just for diabetes, but for weight loss and even for the improvement of cardiometabolic risk markers. With her organization, Virta Health, she just released a landmark study on this very subject.

Dr. Hallberg once gave a terrific TEDx talk that’s worth watching after our interview. She’s the medical director and founder of the Indiana University-Arnett Health Medical Weight Loss Program and will discuss her ongoing research on today’s episode of the Empowering Neurologist. - See more at: http://www.drperlmutter.com/the-emp...-sarah-hallberg

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I don't know if this is the right place for the post, but yet another "cure" being touted.
https://futurism.com/a-clinical-tri...f-participants/

Well, they don't call it a cure, but a reversal. It flies in the face of Dr. Fung's protocol. Can it be there is room for various ways to deal with T2D, or are they just manipulating data to retain status quo?
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Here is the study abstract:

Participants:

Patients with type 2 diabetes of up to 3 years in duration. {From Medpage Today: [I]Asked for his opinion, Robert Eckel, MD, director of the Lipid Clinic at the University of Colorado Hospital in Aurora, who was not involved with the study, noted that the patients chosen for inclusion were more likely to benefit from the intervention: "These subjects had a relatively short duration of type 2 diabetes and an HbA1c of ~6.5% at baseline, representative of more reserve in beta cell function that would be more predictive of benefit -- which, by the way, wasn't all that impressive in the 8-week group," he said via email. "With the impressive weight regain after the intervention was concluded, an important and practical question is how long will the benefit of the intervention last?"[/I]}

Interventions:

Participants were randomized to: (i) an 8-week intensive metabolic intervention[/COLOR], (ii) a 16-week intensive metabolic intervention[/COLOR], or (iii) standard diabetes care. During the intensive intervention period, weight loss and normoglycemia were targeted using lifestyle approaches and treatment with metformin, acarbose, and insulin glargine. Diabetes drugs were then discontinued in the intervention groups and participants were followed for hyperglycemic relapse. {Medpage today states: Patients were provided with a personalized exercise plan and a suggested meal plan that reduced their daily calorie intake by 500 to 750 calories a day...After the intervention, individuals in both intervention groups stopped taking diabetes medications and were encouraged to continue with lifestyle changes.}

Primary outcome:

On-treatment normoglycemia. (Does 'on-treatment' mean sustaining the reduced calorie and exercise portions of the study? Or on the entire treatment?)

Results:

Twelve weeks after completion of the intervention, 21.4% of the 8-week group compared to 10.7% of controls (RR 2.00, 0.55-7.22) and 40.7% of the 16-week group compared to 14.3% of controls (RR 2.85, 1.03-7.87) met HbA1C criteria for complete or partial diabetes remission.

Conclusions:

A short course of intensive lifestyle and drug therapy achieves on-treatment normoglycemia and promotes sustained weight loss. It may also achieve prolonged, drug-free diabetes remission and strongly supports ongoing studies of novel medical regimens targeting remission.

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Medpage Today article: https://www.medpagetoday.com/endocr.../diabetes/63849

This study was done by MDs at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Their "standard diabetes care" isn't specified in the abstract or the Medpage article, but 14.3% of the diabetics receiving only this instruction met hbA1c goals.

Am I the only one who thinks a diabetic with a 6.5 A1c could have achieved the same result with just the lifestyle interventions, without the drug portion?

Now that I think of it though, 59.3% did not sustain normoglycemia after study end...hardly a big vote for reversal.

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I eat low carb because diabetes runs in my family. And while my younger brother has it, I do not.

I could eat badly and never get it... but my A1C had been edging up, too.

Did I reverse "pre-diabetes"? Well, I returned to excellent blood sugar control.

I've read about elite athletes with Type II diabetes. Like in Gary Taubes book, the Case Against Sugar; it will get most people, eventually, if they eat in a way which seems to encourage it.
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I could eat badly and never get it... but my A1C had been edging up, too.

Never get diabetes? Your A1c seems to indicate otherwise...
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Never get diabetes? Your A1c seems to indicate otherwise...


For the purposes of "reversal." I wanted to head it off at the pass.
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Looks like another Newcastle type study, feeding people what they'd end up eating after gastric surgery, seeing if it has the same effect on diabetes.
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Article may be from the Daily Fail, but more press for the study being done by Diabetes.UK.Org. And Low carb fasting diets based on Dr Mosley's 5:2.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...t-diabetes.html
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I think I was never more shocked than when My MIL got remarried and her new DH loved to bake and can. The shocker for me was when they declared that he was now giving her insulin shots so that they could eat cakes, pies, jellies, beets canned with tons of sugar, ice cream etc.... But she was a grown woman so what could we say or do because he had his ways and it was not one that they wanted us to but-in about.

I'm sure that the doctors advise backed up this type of eating with the insulin, but seriously, it just didn't make sense to me.

My mother always checked her BS and never let this type of eating effect her life. She was a low carber for years and I think it served her well, healthwise.
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LC did enable me to be off my medications and my numbers were normal, but I never considered the disease reversed. Just my blood sugar readings.

As soon as you go back to a bowl of cereal, a sandwich, and spaghetti your BG will be out of control. I think it is important that people are not mislead. Diabetes is not reversed. BG readings are.



You are in remission.
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One year update on Dr Hallberg's study recently published, placed in the Media forum under Virta Health, post #30.
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=476612

Adding the study one year update here too:http://blog.virtahealth.com/virtas-...sarah-hallberg/

82% continued enrollment at one year...so much for the common criticism of LC that it is unsustainable.


Dr. Westman sees patients from a spectrum of socio-economic backgrounds in his clinic. It appeared to me from others in the waiting room that some may not have had access to healthcare previously. Considered an obesity specialist, he gets referrals from GPs or social services, patients are not in his care until crisis mode. The economic disparities around North Carolina are severe, and in West Virginia, possibly worse with fewer medical treatment centers. You may not see crazy BG highs thanks to Canadian universal healthcare.

Dr Westman has good presentations on DietDoctor, describing his clinic practice and showing patient results. He mentions in the role-playing video why he makes the "rules" so simple...a short list of foods. https://www.dietdoctor.com/?s=Dr+westman

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Old Tue, Jul-25-17, 03:43
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Two newer Dr Hallberg videos after the Virta Health one-year results:

Talk to Family Medicine providers on general Healthy Living.
https://youtu.be/ebgVnADlB9E

Talk to "Global Innovation" entrepreneurs, super simple overview of diabetes to techies with no medical background, followed by the details of the Virta Customer Experience. How they connect to the doctors, other patients, etc.
https://youtu.be/Rmb_apC3SAA


And more good UK press for Dr Unwin's study/ Diabetes.Uk.org low carb plan:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/h...s-beat-10851684

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