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Old Sat, Feb-25-17, 21:24
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That's just crazy that the lady would be taking diabetes meds and EXTRA insulin to go buy and eat half price candy....crazy!


Someone older told me once that back in the old days they didn't have cereal in a box and if you think about it, it's just a concoction to sell livestock feed for human consumption.
We've all been sold a bad bill of goods that this stuff in a box is edible...
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Old Sun, Feb-26-17, 04:52
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That's just crazy that the lady would be taking diabetes meds and EXTRA insulin to go buy and eat half price candy....crazy!

If her diabetes was diagnosed pre-2010, it's a good bet that she was told by a diabetes educator that it's okay to eat sugar and just "cover it" with extra insulin. I remember reading that very thing at the official ADA website!

Currently, they still say it's okay to eat sugar and sweets "once in a while" if it fits into their diet plan .. just cut back on other carbs in the meal in order to make it fit.
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For many people, having about 45 to 60 grams at meals is about right. Serving sizes make a difference. To include sweets in your meal, you can cut back on the other carb-containing foods at the same meal. - See more at: http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fi...d-desserts.html
Hold the salad and broccoli ... bring on the pecan pie!



No wonder people are confused .. and getting sicker
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Old Sun, Feb-26-17, 05:25
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I was on a non-nutrition related forum, mentioned low carb for diabetes, and half the people were all "Of course! What is this, the Dark Ages?" And the other half were all "MY doctor/the ADA/nutritionist said healthy carbs at every meal!"

A friend's father embraced low carb and got great numbers at the doctor's office. They said, "Keep it up" and passed him to the nutritionist. Who told him he wasn't eating "enough carbs."

Fortunately, he feels so good he's not about to fall for that, but a lot of people just get confused and give up.
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Old Sun, Feb-26-17, 05:50
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I like this bit from Doreen's link;

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The myth that sugar causes diabetes is commonly accepted by many people. This is a complicated issue. Eating sugar has nothing to do with developing type 1 diabetes. Type 1 is caused by genetics and other unknown factors that trigger the disease.


I just did a search for "sucrose type I diabetes" on PubMed. 140 items came up, but from what I could tell from the titles, only two had anything to do with the development of type I, and those both did see a correlation--nothing conclusive, you can only get so much from epidemiology, but one showed a relative risk of 1.7 for higher vs. lower sucrose take and type I--similar or weaker associations of saturated fat intake to various diseases was enough to launch a war against fat that's lasted since the 70s.
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Old Sun, Feb-26-17, 10:23
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In the meantime, Gary Taubes wrote The Case Against Sugar which is a pile of research suggesting it has a LOT to do with diabetes type II.
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Old Tue, Apr-25-17, 12:43
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A week ago I was picking up my heart medication at my local Kroger's and in front of my was a person picking up her insulin and diabetes meds. She had in her cart half price Valentine's candy for at least $30 worse.. Having a big mouth I asked her if she would have some of those candies with her diabetes. She told my that she just upped her insulin before eating them.


Please, please don't do that again. Would you like it if someone asked if you want a heart attack with your steak?
Also, you had no idea what her those for her or her husband or friends.....and honestly, that is just a shItty thing to say. Mind your business.
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Old Mon, Jul-10-17, 10:31
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It is sort of a form of art. I don't think anyone would want to eat confetti pop tarts as nachos. As food its completely unappealing.

Growing up we only had a few healthy choices for breakfast. It left me with a weird fetish for 1970s breakfast foods. My friends would get Taco Bell to munch while we watched a movie and I'd be noshing on their Captain Crunch.
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